A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

[amigo de christo]

You speak from the “heart”...Love this testimony and I know you Love him !!....as he Loves you more!!!...Praise God!!

march onwards in the trenches . The LORD watches over the lambs . Let each one be diligent in the gift GOD has given them .
Being faithful to CHRIST and unto GOD .
Always remember that any love that dishonors GOD is not coming FROM GOD .
thus any love that embraces sin or other religoins IS NOT COMING FROM GOD .
THE LOVE OF GOD , POINTS TO JESUS CHRIST , TO CHRIST JESUS and TO HE ALONE .
And it sups on every word of GOD , of Christ , and later of the apostels who were inspired BY THE SPIRIT To write as they did to the churches
ARMOUR UP rita , and let us be diligent more than ever in the things of GOD .
Let us be in prayer , in the bible , being hearers and doers of the WORD .
FOR IT IS HE who worketh in the lambs that which is PLEASING IN HIS SIGHT .
Always remember SIN IS NOT PLEASING TO GOD
Always remember that GOD correctes those in error and seasoned men would by the SPIRIT always correct error .
DESIRING the death of none , but rather repentance and LIFE IN JESUS CHRIST .
WE got a massive end hour war brewing . NOW JESUS HAS ALREADY WON .
By our faith IN HIM we overcome . But always remember if our faith is in another jesus
well then IT AINT IN JESUS CHRIST . we must get well learned in the scriptures . I know what i speak of dear sister .
I desire good for all and thus i do as i am led too do .

 

[Keiw]

YOU dont read the gospels much do ya . My advice , READ THEM and all words in the bible .
JESUS was not called Gods son until his baptism . WRONG .
GO back and read the gospels , therefore that which is in thee shall be called THE SON OF GOD . MARY KNEW IT
the day GABRIEL APPEARED . try reading the bible more and watch out for men .

Shall be called= future tense. Where does it say Gabriel appeared?

 

[Keiw]

Every thing was good till the last line . YES GOD DOES DRAW US TO CHRIST
and YES CHRIST leads us to the FATHER .
That be very true . VERY TRUE .
ONLY IN CHRIST can we worship the FATHER . SO IF THEY CAME TO CHRIST , and stay GLUED ON HIM , THEY KNOW THE FATHER .
And will grow . PS
go back and read your first sentences , THEN ask yourself
WHY THE HECK are the churches now trying to tell us that mulims , buddist and whateverist have their own path to THE FATHER .
I SHUNN TO HELL and to HELL I SHUN the all inclusie lie that says true christains and any other religoin worship the SAME GOD .
ITS A LIE . And all the love of the world wont save them .
IF a man LOVED GOD HE WOULD HAVE LOVED JESUS CHRIST .
IF a man loveth CHRIST , HE KEEPS HIS SAYINGS . JESUS SAID YE MUST BELIVE IN HIM
HE IS THE CHRIST . so why are so many now telling the churches oh as long as musilms buddists , atheist
did some good works and had this version of love they call love , THEY are fine . ITS A LIE FROM SATAN partner .
I ONLY HOPE you aint bought into it . have you . have you bought into the lie .
I pray to GOD you have not and if you have i pray TO GOD YOU FLEE IT FAST before ITS FOREVER TOO LATE .

Few know Jesus let alone the Father. In fact Jesus gave a warning--John 15:20-21--On account of his name( thinking they are standing for it) they will do things against the true followers. Why? Because they do not know the one who sent him= Father=John 17:3= THE ONLY TRUE GOD.--those are being mislead into serving a non existent trinity and are breaking Gods #1 commandment daily.
Yes believe he was the one sent= the Messiah. I attended different churches in my day. They teach little of what Jesus taught. Its hard to obey when one doesn't know what he teaches. Only those who obey will get salvation-Hebrews 5:9)--And a super important teaching= Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God= OT-NT-1540 pages of utterances taught to the flock without fail by the teachers who have Jesus. Jesus is with 1 single religion on earth--99% including 99% claiming to be christian are not his. they are his adversary's(2Cor 11:12-15)

 

[Brakelite]

Jesus was not called Gods son until his baptism. God always was and always will be. Jesus isn't that. Jesus has a God=his Father. A Father makes sons=created. God did it all THROUGH Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6, Col 1:15-16--John 5:30

KJV John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
In the text above, Jesus is telling Nicodemus that God sent His only begotten Son into the world. When I read that, I think I am well within my rights to assume that God had a Son to send.

 

[Keiw]

KJV John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
In the text above, Jesus is telling Nicodemus that God sent His only begotten Son into the world. When I read that, I think I am well within my rights to assume that God had a Son to send.

Believing in the real Jesus and that is only a partial truth. We find Jesus' words at Matt 7:22-23-these believe, yet will hear these words from Jesus as final judgement. Get away from me, you who work iniquity( practice a sin) i must confess, i NEVER even knew you--Jaws will be dropped to the floor. In 7:21 Jesus sums it up who will be saved= Those living now to do his Father will over self in this satan ruled system. And his Father will= Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT-1540 pages of utterances-studying, it NEVER stops.

 

[Jack]

Believing in the real Jesus and that is only a partial truth. We find Jesus' words at Matt 7:22-23-these believe, yet will hear these words from Jesus as final judgement. Get away from me, you who work iniquity( practice a sin) i must confess, i NEVER even knew you--Jaws will be dropped to the floor. In 7:21 Jesus sums it up who will be saved= Those living now to do his Father will over self in this satan ruled system. And his Father will= Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT-1540 pages of utterances-studying, it NEVER stops.

Yes indeed, Kingdom Hall will find out that Jesus was telling the Truth and Kingdom Hall TWISTS Scripture like Satan!

Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Amen Jesus! Kingdom Hall LIED just like the Devil, leading people to Hell fire!

 

[ElieG12]

Has anyone ever heard a Kingdom Hall speak? Psss... things we read from the haters.

 

[Keiw]

Has anyone ever heard a Kingdom Hall speak? Psss... things we read from the haters.

Jack refuses to believe Jesus over his false reasonings. Even though his false reasonings contradict Jesus to the core. And he still believes he follows Jesus but will not believe him. He needs prayers.

 

[The Learner]

YOU dont read the gospels much do ya . My advice , READ THEM and all words in the bible .
JESUS was not called Gods son until his baptism . WRONG .
GO back and read the gospels , therefore that which is in thee shall be called THE SON OF GOD . MARY KNEW IT
the day GABRIEL APPEARED . try reading the bible more and watch out for men .

The young men, I adopted, I call sons.

 

[The Learner]

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[Keiw]

The young men, I adopted, I call sons.

Shall be called= future tense-At Jesus baptism, God called him his son.

 

[Jack]

Has anyone ever heard a Kingdom Hall speak? Psss... things we read from the haters.

Every time a JW posts a message! JW's are Kingdom Hall puppets.

 

[Brakelite]

Believing in the real Jesus and that is only a partial truth. We find Jesus' words at Matt 7:22-23-these believe, yet will hear these words from Jesus as final judgement. Get away from me, you who work iniquity( practice a sin) i must confess, i NEVER even knew you--Jaws will be dropped to the floor. In 7:21 Jesus sums it up who will be saved= Those living now to do his Father will over self in this satan ruled system. And his Father will= Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT-1540 pages of utterances-studying, it NEVER stops.

Seeing we are on a memory trip, I shall remind you of the apostle John's words...

KJV 1 John 1:1-3
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ....
KJV 1 John 2:22-25
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life....
KJV 1 John 3:8, 21-23
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment....
KJV 1 John 4:1-3, 9-10, 14-15
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God....
KJV 1 John 5:5, 9-13
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Now, what is the common thread running through the above verses?

 

[Keiw]

Every time a JW posts a message! JW's are Kingdom Hall puppets.

How sadly mistaken you are. Jesus heads our congregations. You should study Jesus, in every translation on earth his teachings back the JW teachers. 0 doubt about that. Jehovah loves you.

 

[Keiw]

Seeing we are on a memory trip, I shall remind you of the apostle John's words...

KJV 1 John 1:1-3
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ....
KJV 1 John 2:22-25
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life....
KJV 1 John 3:8, 21-23
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment....
KJV 1 John 4:1-3, 9-10, 14-15
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God....
KJV 1 John 5:5, 9-13
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Now, what is the common thread running through the above verses?

You can twist all partial truths, it will never work. Jesus did not lie at Matt 7:22-23--and its 100% fact-they believe. Obeying( Heb 5:9)-Gets one salvation, not pick and choose but Every Utterance from God as Jesus said.

 

[The Learner]

Shall be called= future tense-At Jesus baptism, God called him his son.

Psalm 2:12
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature, upholding the universe by his word of power. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

Hebrews 1:1–3

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John 1:1-4: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life.”
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Jesus is the “Ego eimi”
In John’s Gospel, Jesus tells his disciples: “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am he” (13:19). The phrase “I am he” is translated from the Greek ego eimi. The phrase occurs 24 times in John’s Gospel. At least seven of these are said to be “absolute,” in that they are not followed by a predicate, such as in John 6:35, “I am the bread of life.” In the seven absolute cases, no predicate follows, and the “I AM” phrase comes at the end of the clause. This indicates that Jesus is using this phrase as a name to identify who he is. The seven places are John 8:24, 28, 58; 13:19; 18:5, 6 and 8.

If we go back to Isaiah 41:4, 43:10 and 46:4, we can see the background for Jesus’ reference to himself in John’s Gospel as ego eimi (“I AM”). In Isaiah 41:4, God or Yahweh says: “I, the Lord…I am he.” In Isaiah 43:10 he says “I am he,” and later says, “‘You are my witnesses,’ declares the Lord, ‘that I am God’” (verse 12). In 46:4, God (Yahweh) again refers to himself as “I am he.”

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[The Learner]

"
There is considerable biblical evidence to support the eternal Sonship of Christ. First of all, there are many passages that clearly identify that it was “the Son” who created all things (Colossians 1:13-16; Hebrews 1:2), thereby strongly implying that Christ was the Son of God at the time of creation. When one considers these passages, it seems clear that the most normal and natural meaning of the passages is that at the time of creation Jesus was the Son of God, the second Person of the Triune Godhead, thus supporting the doctrine of eternal Sonship.

Second, there are numerous verses that speak of God the Father sending the Son into the world to redeem sinful man (John 20:21; Galatians 4:4; 1 John 4:14; 1 John 4:10) and giving His Son as a sacrifice for sin (John 3:16). Clearly implied in all the passages that deal with the Father sending/giving the Son is the fact that He was the Son before He was sent into the world. This is even more clearly seen in Galatians 4:4-6, where the term “sent forth” is used both of the Son and the Spirit. Just as the Holy Spirit did not become the Holy Spirit when He was sent to empower the believers at Pentecost, neither did the Son become the Son at the moment of His incarnation. All three Persons of the Triune Godhead have existed for all eternity, and their names reveal who they are, not simply what their title or function is.

Third, 1 John 3:8 speaks of the appearance or manifestation of the Son of God: “the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” The verb “to make manifest” or “appeared” means to make visible or to bring to light something that was previously hidden. The idea communicated in this verse is not that the second Person of the trinity became the Son of God, but that the already existing Son of God was made manifest or appeared in order to fulfill God’s predetermined purpose. This idea is also seen in other verses such as John 11:27 and 1 John 5:20.

Fourth, Hebrews 13:8 teaches that “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, yes and forever.” This verse again seems to support the doctrine of eternal Sonship. The fact that Jesus’ divine nature is unchanging would seem to indicate that He was always the Son of God because that is an essential part of His Person. At the incarnation Jesus took on human flesh, but His divine nature did not change, nor did His relationship with the Father. This same truth is also implied in John 20:31, where we see John’s purpose in writing his gospel was so that we might “believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.” It does not say that He became the Son of God but that He is the Son of God. The fact that Jesus was and is the Son of God is an essential aspect of Who He is and His work in redemption.

Finally, one of the strongest evidences for the eternal Sonship of Christ is the triune nature of God and the eternal relationship that exists among the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Particularly important is the unique Father/Son relationship that can only be understood from the aspect of Christ’s eternal Sonship. This relationship is key to understanding the full measure of God’s love for those whom He redeems through the blood of Christ. The fact that God the Father took His Son, the very Son He loved from before the foundation of the world, and sent Him to be a sacrifice for our sins is an amazing act of grace and love that is best understood from the doctrine of eternal Sonship.

One verse that speaks of the eternal relationship between the Father and Son is John 16:28. "I came forth from the Father, and have come into the world; I am leaving the world again, and going to the Father." Implied in this verse is again the fact that the Father/Son relationship between God the Father and God the Son is one that always has and always will exist. At His incarnation the Son “came from the Father” in the same sense as upon His resurrection He returned “to the Father.” Implied in this verse is the fact that if Jesus was the Son after the resurrection, then He was also the Son prior to His incarnation. Other verses that support the eternal Sonship of Christ would include John 17:5 and John 17:24, which speak of the Father’s love for the Son from “before the foundation of the world.”"

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What is the doctrine of eternal Sonship and is it biblical? Was Jesus always the Son of God, or did He become the Son of God at the incarnation?

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[The Learner]

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Before Time Began, Jesus Was

Jesus existed with God in the very beginning. Before time, before matter, Jesus was.

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[face2face]

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You mean Logos right?

 

[The Learner]

You can twist all partial truths, it will never work. Jesus did not lie at Matt 7:22-23--and its 100% fact-they believe. Obeying( Heb 5:9)-Gets one salvation, not pick and choose but Every Utterance from God as Jesus said.

Hebrews 5
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5 Every Jewish high priest is chosen from among men. That priest is given the work of helping people with the things they must do for God. He must offer to God gifts and sacrifices for sins. 2 The high priest has his own weaknesses. So he is able to be gentle with those who do wrong out of ignorance. 3 He offers sacrifices for their sins, but he must also offer sacrifices for his own sins.

4 To be a high priest is an honor. But no one chooses himself for this work. That person must be chosen by God just as Aaron was. 5 It is the same with Christ. He did not choose himself to have the honor of becoming a high priest. But God chose him. God said to him,

“You are my Son.
Today I have become your Father.”

6 And in another part of the Scriptures God says,

“You are a priest forever—
the kind of priest Melchizedek was.”

7 While Jesus lived on earth he prayed to God, asking for help from the one who could save him from death. He prayed to God with loud cries and tears. And his prayers were answered because of his great respect for God. 8 Jesus was the Son of God, but he still suffered, and through his sufferings he learned to obey whatever God says. 9 This made him the perfect high priest, who provides the way for everyone who obeys him to be saved forever. 10 God made him high priest, just like Melchizedek.

Warning Against Falling Away
11 We have many things to tell you about this. But it is hard to explain because you have stopped trying to understand. 12 You have had enough time that by now you should be teachers. But you need someone to teach you again the first lessons of God’s teaching. You still need the teaching that is like milk. You are not ready for solid food. 13 Anyone who lives on milk is still a baby and is not able to understand much about living right. 14 But solid food is for people who have grown up. From their experience they have learned to see the difference between good and evil.