Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

[dad]

I wish I could remember the name of the author who toured Palestine during the early or mid 1800's and wrote a book about "the holy land". He had no idea that part of it would ever become a Jewish state, so he had no reason to lie.

The countryside was sparsely populated. Almost no one living in it. Mostly swamp, which the early Jewish emigrants of the 1900's drained and turned into farms. Some Jews in Jerusalem and some Arabs, not many. Same with Bethlehem. But nowhere else.

You believed that dry hot Israel was mostly swamp??

You've been told lies - fed the propaganda - of only one side - and willingly swallowed all the lies you have been told about land being "stolen" from Arabs who themselves never even lived there, except in Bethlehem and Jerusalem, where there were also just as many Jews.

So the 3/4 or whatever number of people who fled there were ghosts? Their houses and groves and lands were not real?

All you've done in your post IMO is make it quite clear that you've chosen whose lies to believe,

It is God's truth that He loves people and that He does not like the wanton murdering of a large population to happen. That is not who He is.

and you are going to stick with those lies because those are the lies you're now accustomed to, or have chosen (for whatever reason) to believe.

Those lies you speak about in this post are about how other folks used to live in what is now Israel. You seem to suggest that because someone visited Israel 100 years ago or whatever, and claimed it was mostly swamp and not heavily populated that this gives new immigrants the right to kick them out.

You're all guilty of warmongering in another region of the world that isn't even yours.

No. Blessed are the peacemakers Jesus said. Not the terrorists.
By the way you do not get to pick what you believe and then call anything else lies.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I don't think "FOTG", that poor 'ol "dad" can help his anti-semetic/anti-Israel mindset!

As it seems he worships the (pro)created flesh OVER the Creator!

The TRUTH of the matter is? WAR is CRUEL AND UGLY! And, even though over the several thousand years that technological gains have made in attempting to refine these unsightly aspects of conflict?
As we can see, there always is present IRRECONCILABLE DIFFERENCES that NEVER seem to get resolved!
For to do as "dad" suggests?
Requires so much compromisation of FAITH?
That should it be successful?
You end up with NOTHING!

I'd suggest ending up with nothing isn't a factor when the true faith is not in them. They have nothing to begin with.

The truth is, western media hasn't shown the full breadth of the horror Hamas has inflicted against Israel.

"Innocents", is bandied about by antisemitic pro-Hamas CI terrorism sponsors here,and yet they're not applying those terms to Israel and the Innocents who are beheaded, are victims of mass murder by 5000 rockets dropping on them. Are brutalized,raped,beaten, tortured,as hostages in custody of Hamas.

While in the terrorist sponsors pov, that's OK. Because Israel has no right to exist. Which is reiterated as Hamas supporters insist Jews are not Gods people. They're not truly Jews unless ..and Israel is not actually the land promised them by God. The God of....Israel.

This is linked on a different thread. See if the Antisemitic pro-Hamas Christian Identity advocate rhetoric in this thread sounds familiar.

Exactly Why Jesus Christ is NOT a Jew | Christogenea.org

Exactly Why Jesus Christ is NOT a Jew | Christogenea audio recordings are usually accompanied with written commentaries or sources.

christogenea.org

Excerpt) "...So according to Paul, the promises in Christ are for "our twelve tribes", meaning the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. But the Jews, whom Paul mentions as an entity distinct and apart from the twelve tribes, were opposed to that promise, and therefore on account if it, they were making accusations against Paul. You won’t find too many modern so-called pastors preaching on this passage from Acts."

 

[Zao is life]

It is not a matter of choosing sides. It is a matter of terrorists killing multitudes of civilians.

 

[Zao is life]

Israel should offer up their throats to Hamas and just die. That's the wrap up of the message of the Pro-Hamas antisemites here. D. is a terrorist sponsor. And Biblically illiterate.

What business has light with their darkness?

"“The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”; “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” As regards the gospel, they are enemies of God for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.""

Boy, does that anger the antisemite here.

Those who are so pro P. anti I. may be operatives of P. and its H. themselves.

Just ignore them and keep flooding their threads with video links in separate posts, but not with replies to their posts. If everyone stops replying to their posts, and instead just places up links in separate posts telling the truth about the current war, then their propaganda war is lost.

IMO.

And try to stop confusing the question of whether or not people who do not believe in Christ - Jew or Gentile - are part of God's elect - with antisemtism. You're just compounding and making worse what you are trying to fight against or trying to fight for.

That was friendly advice that I hope you will take up for what it is, because it's not hostile.

 

[dad]

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I can't agree that it is OK to blast multitudes willy nilly

 

[BlessedPeace]

Those who are so pro P. anti I. may be operatives of P. and its H. themselves.

Just ignore them and keep flooding their threads with video links in separate posts, but not with replies to their posts. If everyone stops replying to their posts, and instead just places up links in separate posts telling the truth about the current war, then their propaganda war is lost.

IMO.

And try to stop confusing the question of whether or not people who do not believe in Christ - Jew or Gentile - are part of God's elect - with antisemtism. You're just compounding and making worse what you are trying to fight against or trying to fight for.

That was friendly advice that I hope you will take up for what it is, because it's not hostile.

"And try to stop confusing the question of whether or not people who do not believe in Christ - Jew or Gentile - are part of God's elect - with antisemtism. You're just compounding and making worse what you are trying to fight against or trying to fight for.

That was friendly advice that I hope you will take up for what it is, because it's not hostile."
No offense taken. That's not a reference to my posts.

 

[Jack]

I will not ask God to bless the grotesque killing of many thousands of innocent people. Better to ask that He stops Israel fast.

You're fighting a losing battle against God of Israel, God of the Bible.

Hebrews 8
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

 

[dad]

You're fighting a losing battle against God of Israel, God of the Bible.

Hebrews 8
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Prov 22:
22 Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate:

23 For the Lord will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them.

The God of Israel is against Israel today. Just as they are against God. I kid you not

 

[Jack]

The God of Israel is against Israel today.

Do you read your own posts?

The God of Israel is against Himself? lol

God bless Israel!!!

 

[BlessedPeace]

Do you read your own posts?

The God of Israel is against Himself? lol

God bless Israel!!!

Dad's god is against Israel today.

 

[dad]

Do you read your own posts?

The God of Israel is against Himself? lol

God bless Israel!!!

Unbelieving Israel is not God actually. He told us where Israel is heading, into great tribulation. They will not fare well there.

 

[Jack]

Unbelieving Israel is not God actually.

You said "The God of Israel is against Israel today."

You should read your posts.

He told us where Israel is heading, into great tribulation. They will not fare well there.

He told us where Jesus will return. It's called Israel, in the Land of the Bible. And He told us what's gonna happen to those like you who curse Israel.

 

[Jack]

Dad's god is against Israel today.

Sad indeed!

 

[dad]

You said "The God of Israel is against Israel today."

You should read your posts.

Of course He is against terrorists that slaughter innocents. Just as He was against Herod slaughtering innocents.

He told us where Jesus will return. It's called Israel, in the Land of the Bible.

Yes and that what is left of Israel at the time will believe. Nothing to do with today

And He told us what's gonna happen to those like you who curse Israel.

False. The terrorism and murder of children by unbelievers is evil and must be called evil by His people.

 

[NayborBear]

Not agreeing with the wholesale killing of innocents and the terror and deprivation inflicted on a large population is not 'worshiping flesh'. Nor is it anti semetic to realize that neither the terror done by Israel or Hamas is good.

What are you talking about? Are you saying that NOT killing children and women compromises your faith? What sort of UnChristian ghoulish faith can that be?

No?
If you would've taken note the first part of my admonition?
You would've read that "War is Cruel and UGLY!"
And no matter what technological gains may have sprouted forth over thousands of years?
WAR is STILL Cruel AND Ugly!
Perhaps you are purporting some sort of "chemical or bio-logical" warfare?
That only effects the combatants themselves?

The very fact that YOU have been ranting and raving for what? Some 94 pages?
SUGGESTS that YOU have some viable alternative, or at the very least? Are in favor of weapon of warfare that kills only those baring arms!


That which you are seemingly blind to, and that which I am about to lay upon your peepers, is that there are ghoulish forces running amuck that is/becomes "SELF ERADICATING, to the point of CANNIBALISTIC!"
Meaning, that after IT eliminates all the enemy apparent?
It WILL turn upon its own kind!
TILL THERE ARE NONE LEFT!

 

[Jack]

Of course He is against terrorists that slaughter innocents. Just as He was against Herod slaughtering innocents.

God is certainly against the Hamas MONSTERS, but He fights for Israel, IE 1967!

Yes and that what is left of Israel at the time will believe. Nothing to do with today

Your unBiblical opinion noted.

False. The terrorism and murder of children by unbelievers is evil and must be called evil by His people.

Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, again!

 

[bluedragon]

Dad is a fraud .....

Maybe you should be migrating now before the snow flies .....

 

[Jack]

Dad is a fraud .....

Maybe you should be migrating now before the snow flies .....

Maybe God brought dad here so we can pull him from the fire?

 

[Zao is life]

The God of Israel - of Christ - hates what is evil and loves what is good. He also hates what is a lie and loves what is true.

Those who excuse the evil intentions of those who hate the Jews with a diabolical hatred, and what they do when they carry out their evil intentions, will explain to God for it one day. All those who lie and cover up for all their evil, and for the evil of others.

The vast majority of the Jews in the country called Israel only want to live in peace with their neighbors, but the same Jews will all be slaughtered brutally and barbarically by those whom many paint as angelic victims, if the Jews do not take control and fight back.

But God sees all that is done under the sun, and He knows the motivation of the heart of every individual.​

 

[bluedragon]

Maybe God brought dad here so we can pull him from the fire?

I would rather he migrate south for sunshine until Easter. About a week ago, I joked with my wife ...."Here, they come ......Canadians, Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, all infecting Florida until Easter. The greatest most celebrated day in the life of a Floridian is Easter. All the snowbirds go home, each taking a Spring Breaker or Baseball Player under each arm."
They've been driving I-65 for weeks now ......RV's, cars towed, heading south to dry their wings off and ruin golf, restaurants, and traffic until the snow melts .....