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YOu need to understand the international conventions that Israel is a signatory to.
So would you say that is the Christian position also? Where is the end of that reasoning? If they destroyed all of Gaza and the west bank millions would be dead. How about if there is a few terrorists in New York that attacked New Jersey? Would it be right to nuke New York in response? The logic there seems to be let the innocent die with the guilty! Since there are hundreds of thousands of children and babies and women and old folks etc living in Gaza and the west bank, how would almost killing them all be a better thing than the terrorists killing such people?
Exactly. It is fine to kill home invaders that want to rape and kill your family I would think. Self defense. But if you were to get a gang together and go to the neighborhood they live in and blow it all up, that would be something more than self defense.
That is a noble theory. I am not sure it has application in the real world of the middle east today. But I take it you are bringing out what a Christian position would be. The problem is, as I mentioned, that some Israelcentric Christian preachers seem perfectly fine with a massive revenge operation, and even seem eager.
Be3cause with Hamas and thug groups like them, they hide among the people and there are teens and women that ear arms as well.
So they answer is is mass murder the children they hid at some time among?
The object of war in my knowledge of history was to conquer or gain or etc. Not to kill as many innocents as possible.
So you condemn them for killing babies but think it is fine for Israel to mass kill babies in a population of 2,3 million people?
Protecting people does not mean mass murdering innocents.
If your enemy who has attacked you first, butchered your peole and do not conform to the rules of war that nations have signed on to. It is their fault and not Israels. Remember Hamas started this war by killing over 800 civilians
And name me one war where civilians were never collateral damage. America did not fight WW 2 to conquer or gain!
Do not attempt to make an equality to what Hamas did and what Isarael is doing. Hamas started this by intentionally killing civilians. Israel, every time it had to go into Gaza to root outr Hamas butchers hiding in the neighborhoods have always sent pre warnings to the Palestinians to leave thise neighborhoods for they were going to go in in force and with bombs. Hamas does not do that!
Tell that to Hamas and Hezbollah and Fatah and the IRG who have pledged genocide against Jews! Israel has no pleasure in the loss of Palestinian civilians, but those same citizens of Palestine will parade in teh streets and hail as heroes the Hamas butchers who mowed down civilians as intentional targets and not the collateral damage that always occurs in war.
Whose fault? The toddlers? Yes Hamas killed civilians and did truly evil things. That does not mean you get too do the same. Otherwise how are you different?
No doubt the cowards could not be open about their terror. Otherwise they would be easy to kill.
Fight back? To attack babies in a virtual prison with no way to escape? That is fighting?
War is bad. The world wars generally targeted military targets, no? One notable exception I can think of was Hiroshima. I think that was evil also.
When you blow up apartment after apartment what are you doing?
What good is Israel saying this 'i am telling gaza's people to leave because we will take action everywhere'
I see no way that residents in all those apartments were warned. Why pretend?
Why would we need to have every terror outfit all agree with what is the right thing to do?
Some would do that. Same thing in 911 I hear. So I usually try to understand that they are desperate and have been wronged and many are oppressed and in poverty etc. If those folks cheering evil and terrorism got in trouble, I would actually not mind. The issue here is the population at large. The children and sick and old and innocent.
I just showed how a pretense that they could leave is a cruel joke and a lie.
Okay let us now put you in command of Israel. what will you do?
That is a problem. The solution to that problem is not killing babies.
Yes. Hellish evil. Look at what you said was bad. Killing innocents etc. Does blowing up apartment after apartment seem better to you?
I already said the only answer is Jesus. You see, when He brings them back to that land after they believe He will take care of any enemies. He knows how to do it. He did not bring them there yet. So being there naturally will be fraught with problems. It will also lead to the time of Jacob's trouble.
The MO of terrorists is to fire their weapons schools and anywhere children are to use the press against those they are attacking. They attacked Israel first and I think Israel should complete wiping out those people to protect themselves from fulture attacks. With me it is not a question of Biblical Prophecy, it is simply dealing with those who start a war against any nation.
You might preach Jesus, but the god of the world has them blinded, and Muslims hate Jesus, do you wonder why? they are controlled by the world. So brainwashed they are, from childhood. Israel did tell people to leave, Palestinians said so themselves. I haven't seen many white flags of surrender yet. 600 have so far. Israel, said if they let the hostages go they could turn on water and let food and aid in. But the people are protecting Hamas. This plague has to stop and Hamas and the Palestinians could end it quickly, but as you can see, they will not give up.
