What is "OSAS"?

[amigo de christo]

Ps , never sit under a harlot for those who commit fornication with her shall be diseased . A harlot rests not
and always she is on the prowl . She has said i sit a queen , i am no widow and shall never be in adversity .
But her destruction cometh in an hour and in day that no man knows . FOR STRONG is the LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY
who shall judge her . WHEREFORE come out of her my people , partake not of her sins , partake not of her call for unity
for within her well white beautiful walls are dead men . Who know not they are dead .
GOTTA PREACH JESUS CHRIST to all that has breath and take care they never once step in the direction of the ever wise
cry of the harlot . FOR many has she decieved by her doctrines she has weaved , and as a spider weaves its nest
she has spun her web . But the people know not that in the center LIES THE SPIDER that killeth . beware her . Beware her .

 

[amigo de christo]

The harlot has decked herself out as does the chameleon . She adapts her ways to allure all into her house .
To a muslim she crys we worship the same GOD
to others she finds the common ground within them all and SPINS THAT WEB tilll all sit under her .
She has spun an all inclusive web and it has reached to the corners of the earth .
her influence is over the kings , presidents , leaders of this world . She has infected both realms of politics .
She has many daughters who do her will . And she will cry tolerance to allure the sinner into her web .
She cries we do this for humanity , we love mother earth , lets be green , lets make us ten global commandments
lets unify as one . But beware , for In order to gather all tribes , all religoins and all within even christendom
and the world , FUNDMENTAL TRUTH has to be eradicated and what she sets up
TRODS the DIRE NEED to believe on JESUS and that JESUS AINT no ministir of sin either , RIGHT UNDER FOOT .
SHE IS ALL INCLUSIVE but she does as she do , not for the peoples , but power and control
and to sit high above all in this new world order . SHE IS A LIAR . beware her , for she is very very world wise .
And she has many daughters who have infiltrated christendom to unify them as one with all religoins and the world as one .
And she knows how to decieve and to allure . JESUS has the sheep and his sheep wont heed her voice .
Stay in the bible my friends . Stay in that bible and test all men against that holy doctrine .

 

[mailmandan]

never, his church did survive, inspite of Rome’s attempt to destroy it

He was the bread from heaven

when did I eat it? 50 years ago

how. The way he said

John 6:

come to him,

35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

Believe in him
40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me,that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Amen! Jesus is the Bread of Life and just as food and drink meet our physical needs, the flesh and blood of Christ are offered to meet our spiritual needs. John 6:35 - "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." Jesus used figurative language to emphasize these spiritual truths. Jesus explains the sense of the entire passage when He says in John 6:63 - "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life."

By faith we partake of Christ, and the benefits of His sacrificial death on the cross and shed blood. Eating and drinking here is not literal cannibalism but the reception of God’s grace by believing in Christ for salvation as we read below:

John 6:40 - Everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:54 - Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:47 - Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
John 6:58 - He who eats this bread will live forever.

"He who believes" in Christ is equivalent to "he who eats this bread and drinks My blood" as the end result is the same - "eternal life."

John 6 does not support the false doctrine of transubstantiation. On the contrary, faith is the means by which we receive the grace of God. (Romans 5:1-2) Jesus is the Bread of Life and we eat of Him and are satisfied when we believe in Him for salvation.

Bread represents the "staff of life." Sustenance. That which essential to sustain life. Just as bread or sustenance is necessary to maintain physical life, Jesus is all the sustenance necessary for spiritual life.

The source of physical life is blood -- "life is in the blood." As with the bread, just as blood is the empowering or source of life physically, Jesus is all the source of spiritual life necessary.

 

[Gabriel _Arch]

Yep . and the church are the ones who have been saved BY JESUS CHRIST . yes indeed .
The church preaches the message , aka gospel on how TO BE saved . BUT yep , your right my friend
The lambs keep the FAITH and HOPE IN JESUS CHRIST . HE alone saves . Now on that note , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME
in the building and round the world .

Not unusual for Catholics to believe in holy Mother church itself. The edifice,not the indwelt community of Christ as non-Catholics are aware.

If it is in his plan RC's will come to the truth. He wants none to perish.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Amen! Jesus is the Bread of Life and just as food and drink meet our physical needs, the flesh and blood of Christ are offered to meet our spiritual needs. John 6:35 - "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." Jesus used figurative language to emphasize these spiritual truths. Jesus explains the sense of the entire passage when He says in John 6:63 - "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life."

By faith we partake of Christ, and the benefits of His sacrificial death on the cross and shed blood. Eating and drinking here is not literal cannibalism but the reception of God’s grace by believing in Christ for salvation as we read below:

John 6:40 - Everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:54 - Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:47 - Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
John 6:58 - He who eats this bread will live forever.

"He who believes" in Christ is equivalent to "he who eats this bread and drinks My blood" as the end result is the same - "eternal life."

John 6 does not support the false doctrine of transubstantiation. On the contrary, faith is the means by which we receive the grace of God. (Romans 5:1-2) Jesus is the Bread of Life and we eat of Him and are satisfied when we believe in Him for salvation.

Bread represents the "staff of life." Sustenance. That which essential to sustain life. Just as bread or sustenance is necessary to maintain physical life, Jesus is all the sustenance necessary for spiritual life.

The source of physical life is blood -- "life is in the blood." As with the bread, just as blood is the empowering or source of life physically, Jesus is all the source of spiritual life necessary.

It’s sad how men took these basic truths and distorted the so bad. And people fall for it even all these years later..

religion speaks to the flesh I believe.. thats why so many fall for it. Not only in the NT church, but in the OT with the OT church

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Not unusual for Catholics to believe in holy Mother church itself. The edifice,not the indwelt community of Christ as non-Catholics are aware.

If it is in his plan RC's will come to the truth. He wants none to perish.

Many have, we can not give up hope..

 

[amigo de christo]

Not unusual for Catholics to believe in holy Mother church itself. The edifice,not the indwelt community of Christ as non-Catholics are aware.

If it is in his plan RC's will come to the truth. He wants none to perish.

Oh yes , God has indeed , throughout the ages , led many out of dangerous places . And He continues to do so .
I have seen mormons get called out of their religion , Catholics too . HE does desire none to perish
But perish many will if they Heed not but rather reject the LORD .
Lets sum it up real simple .
There is eternal life , IN CHRIST alone and at the end of a lambs life its forever with the King who saved it
There is also death and all who follow that shall face the second death .
So whoever ends up forever with CHRIST , and that would be the lambs , KNOW and understand
this place you never earned nor deserved . GOD simply gave grace and our faith is in JESUS CHRIST .
To all who end up in the hot place , that is the place all have earned , BUT if you dont want that place
THEN RUN TO CHRIST JESUS , FOR GOD desires not your death but rather repentance unto life , UNTO CHRIST .
SO there it is . Eternal life , or eternal damnation . CHOOSE ye wisely . CHOOSE LIFE and not death .
CHOOSE YE CHRIST JESUS and eternal life is yours . JESUS paid the price , embrace the free gift of GOD .
But deny HIM , YOU will be denied and on HIS day shall wail indeed .
That is about as simple as i can put it . And do not sit under a harlot .
In fact let us not be as a certain church was doing . Some were ALLOWING a false one to teach and to seduce the people .
AND GOD WAS NOT WELL PLEASED with that . THUS if we know one is a harlot , WARN the people to come out from her .
DONT just let her teach and seduce the people and just try and rather find common ground . OH NO .
Folks with that GOD WONT BE PLEASED . IF we know one is a wolf in wool , DONT let folks sit under it .
That be a fact we can read in revelation for ourselves .
SO , on that note , i hope folks will stop seeing me as some kind of monster , just cause i DO warn against the false .

 

[amigo de christo]

Many have, we can not give up hope..

Exactly . So now my question is WHY
WHY was GOD so angry at a certain church .
Cause some of them were allowing a false one to teach and to seduce the people
Remember that the next time them leaders in our churches are trying to get us to find common ground
with a HARLOT . cause i happen to know its a seducer .
So maybe ol amigo aint the monster , or even in error for warning all that has breath TO FLEE such a harlot and place .
And to remind all NOT to have UNITY or try and find common ground with those who teach lies .
YEAH , GOD is not pleased at all with this so called love umbrella that allows the false to seduce the people .
THIS LAMB GONNA EXPOSE IT and THEM . No matter the cost for doing so . Do be encouraged .
IF we love the peoples , Dont let them sit at the table of belial for unity .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wrong

We are saved by GRACE THROUGH FAITH

ABSOLUTELY- biut not a dead faith (James 2:24) like the one YOU'RE preaching.

If your "Faith" doesn't include surrender and obedience - then it is as dead as your ancestors . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

We are saved by the free gift Immanuel paid for in full on his cross, by God's grace through faith.

Not by a church,the church.

Once AGAIN - eill you ever stop lying??

I never said that.
I said that we are saved THROUGH Christ's Church - not BY it.

Here is what the Bible says about people like YOU who can't open their mouths without LUING . . .
Rev. 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Good luck with that . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You've proved only that you are full of anger.

TRANSLATION:
"I got caught LYING again - and I can't slither out of this . . ."

That's what I thought . . .

 

[Gabriel _Arch]

Once AGAIN - eill you ever stop lying??

I never said that.
I said that we are saved THROUGH Christ's Church - not BY it.

Here is what the Bible says about people like YOU who can't open their mouths without LUING . . .
Rev. 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Good luck with that . . .

I told you what the Bible says.

I didn't state you said that.

Stop the baseless character assaults.

 

[Marymog]

Thank you. That's not what the Bible says. Just the opposite in fact but, I thank you for your thoughts.

Thank you for your opinion, Gabriel.

I noticed you failed to post any Scripture to back up your opinion. I will post Scripture to show that after you do the works and many other things (the bible way) you will obtain Salvation.

To be saved one must first believe (John 3:16, Acts 16:31). They must be repentant and get baptized (Acts 2:38, 2 Peter 3:9, John 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21). To be saved one must declare with your mouth (Luke 12:8, Romans 10:9) and we will be judged and justified by our works (Romans 2:6, James 2:24). IF one does all those things and they THEN continue doing them until the end, they will be saved. It is not a "do this one time and you are saved" offer by God. Even Paul knew/taught that (2 Timothy 4:7-8).

If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, and one of you says to them, ‘Go in peace, be warmed and filled,’ without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? So, faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.

Revealing the truth with Scripture instead of opinions....Bible Study Mary

 

[Marymog]

good thing you mentioned this, I would never have seen it (I have her on ignore)

John 6:

1. Do not search for food which perishes (meaning we have to eat again) but food which endures to eternal life (we never have to eat again)

27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”

2. What is this food? Jesus called it the bread of life, which whoever eats will never hunger or thirst (meaning again, you do not keep eating and drinking)

35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

3. what did Jesus mean by the bread from heaven?

- come to him
- see the son and believe

what will they recieve? They will NEVER BE CAST OUT, and will be Raised on the last day, because they will live forever.


37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

4. Jesus is the bread of life, Whoever eats that bread will never die. They will live forever. Unlike mana, which they had to eat every day, or comntionually, because the food died. and even they died even though they ate it. How do we eat it? Believe in him, What is the bread? the cross.. His life. His flesh

47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”

They still did not get it. So Jesus took it further
5. Unless you eat and drink, you will die. If you do eat and drink, you will never die and you will live forever. Unlike again, the fathers who ate manna (continually) yet still died

53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is [k]food indeed, and My blood is [l]drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”

6 Jesus explains what it is that gives life

63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.

The bread from heaven, the flesh and blood is the words jesus came to say through the spirit. He says to gnaw and chew on those words. So you make sure you understand them, and recieve them

This is not some eucharistic mass. This is the true gospel of Christ. Eat, drink (once) of the food which endures forever.

or eat and drink continually the food and still die.. because it is not the true flesh and blood

But @Marymog won't listen, She listens to her men and follows them no matter what.

then she will say I can;t prove my point, well I just did

will wait for her normal (my private interpretation)

Hello EG,

The first thing I would like to address is your pot calling the kettle black statement which is in the 3rd line from the bottom on your post. In that line you accuse me of listening to my men. It is true, I do. But at least I admit I do so you are not really getting in a zinger on me.

I know for a fact that you did not come up with on your own interpretation of the Bread of Life discourse from the book of John. Which means EG that you got it from another man which means you are following YOUR man no matter what. But you won't admit that, will you

Now I will ONCE AGAIN address what seems to be your main point OR how YOU eat and drink Him: (He says to gnaw and chew on those words. So you make sure you understand them, and recieve [sic] them)

Trogo is a graphic term meaning “to chew on” or to “gnaw on”—as when an animal is ripping apart its prey. Trogo is the Greek word used in John 6. So Jesus LITERALLY meant eat his flesh. Jesus equates his body to real bread (manna) and then tells his listeners they must eat him like they did the bread. The men Jesus was talking to understood this. They were thinking cannibalism. That is why they walked away. Jesus being the great teacher that he was, then SHOWED us at the Last Supper (about 33AD) how to eat His flesh. He told us and then he showed us. He is a great teacher for those that have eyes and ears to learn. So the lie your men have taught you, that we are to gnaw and chew on his words to you make sure we understand them and receive them is not linguistically true or biblically true.

About 30 years later (54AD) the Apostle Paul asked a rhetorical question to the members of the church in Corinth: The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. You and @Taken don't believe Paul. Us Christians do.

Now I could go on and give you writings from your own Christian history that shows how a student of the Apostle John, Ignatius of Antioch, interpreted the words you just wrote much different than how you are interpreting them. Paul and Ignatius taught what The Church still teaches today. You and your ilk don't.

Notice how I used linguistics, the words of the Apostle Paul and your own Christian history to destroy what your men have taught you? In your mind you proved your own point by repeating the words of other men. Congratulations.

None the less......thank you for your time EG.

 

[Marymog]

No.

I knew you couldn't OR wouldn't, but I love to reveal how you say things that you just can't back up.

Why can't you? Because Scripture is not on your side kiddo...

 

[Marymog]

His theory is incorrect big time . You see WHEN CHRIST does return
it for will to gather his lambs and to lay down wrath against the ungodly . THERE IS NO second chance .
I admit i got worried huge when i read his response . The church is still as real as it was in the beginning .
THE PROBLEM is MOST FOLKS have no idea what the church is , what it has lost or let alone they are lost
and have been overcome by the doctrines of men gone wrong . I SUGGEST we get back in the bible for ourselves
and learn and see what it is that MOST NO LONGER EVEN KNOW .
THE TRUE CHURCH has at no time , NO TIME , NO TIME been overcome by the world .
The lambs are the church and the lambs through all ages have heeded CHRIST , not men who teach contrary to HIM .
On that note , you better get back in the bible as well . cause the protestant realm aint the only one that has tanked
THE RCC been a harlot for a long , long time and she has many daughters who do her will too .
BIBLE TIME . or continue to be decieved . THE CHOICE is yours my dear , dear friend . Butas for this lamb
THE BIBLE is my book , that GOD my GOD , that CHRIST my CHRIST
those apostels the true apostels . BY WHICH all others shall be tested . i do suggest and suggest HIGLY you DO THE SAME NOW .

BIBLE TIME. Or continue to be deceived. THE CHOICE is yours my dear, dear friend.

 

[Shittim]

Locally I know Holy Spirit is manifesting among some in the R.C. church, He is calling His own from all kindreds in this time. He knows who loves and worships Him and who worships a man made institution more.
blessings

 

[Marymog]

Not unusual for Catholics to believe in holy Mother church itself. The edifice,not the indwelt community of Christ as non-Catholics are aware.

If it is in his plan RC's will come to the truth. He wants none to perish.

Hey Gabriel,

Help me out with your theory.

You say that "If it is in his plan RC's will come to the truth. He wants none to perish." Does that statement mean that only the Protestant (anyone not Catholic) denominations/persons have the truth?

Thank you for your time.....Mary

 

[Marymog]

Locally I know Holy Spirit is manifesting among some in the R.C. church, He is calling His own from all kindreds in this time. He knows who loves and worships Him and who worships a man made institution more.
blessings

He shittim,

Do you not go to a church (man-made institution)?

Mary

 

[Marymog]

Bread represents the "staff of life." Sustenance. That which essential to sustain life. Just as bread or sustenance is necessary to maintain physical life, Jesus is all the sustenance necessary for spiritual life.

The source of physical life is blood -- "life is in the blood." As with the bread, just as blood is the empowering or source of life physically, Jesus is all the source of spiritual life necessary.

Hey Mailmandan,

What is your answer to Paul's questions: The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

How do you interpret these words from Paul: Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.

Looking forward to you interpretation.........Mary