I thought the PRE-INCARMATE Jesus was the WORD. So are you saying GOD made the WORD? That's a problem.
It is only a problem if you believe that the Word is Jehovah. “The Word” is a title given to the pre-human Jesus as one who spoke for his Father....as his representative......but it also means “the word of God” in written form, recorded for our instruction and guidance.
As for God's first creation...we aren't talking about the first Adam who wasn't 'born'. We are talking about the "last Adam" born with a quickening spirit in him....the spirit of Christ.
1CO 15:45* And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Your last quote said Jesus was God's first "CREATION". Now you're quoting a verse saying Jesus was "THE FIRSTBORN". So I think that maybe an "interpretation is necessary." The invisible spirit WORD became visible human sinful flesh, just like we were born with. And scripture says Jesus had to be made just like "his brethren".
"Therefore he had to be made like his brethren in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make expiation for the sins of the people."
ROM 8:3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do: sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh
Without fighting the sinful nature Jesus was not made like us in every respect.
So the scriptures that tell us that Jesus was NOT like the sinful human race for which he was sacrificing his life, are not true? (Heb 4:15; Heb 7:26) Do you understand the mechanics of redemption? Christ’s sacrifice is called a “ransom”......an exact price demanded for the release of captives. A sinless life was lost, and only a sinless life could be offered to pay it.
Being “in the likeness of Adam” did not make Jesus sinful....he was like Adam BECAUSE he was NOT born in sin like the human race descended from Adam. By becoming “the last Adam” (also created sinless) he paid for what the first Adam did, cancelling the debt and redeeming his children.
I always have to smile at the word “quickening” and ask what the average person reading that word today would think it means...? Hardly something we would say today, is it? It’s one of the reasons why I ditched the old KJV a very long time ago....outdated language is just confusing, especially to new Bible students.
Adam was the first SON OF GOD
"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God."
I’m afraid that God had many “sons” even before the creation of the universe....
Job 38:4-7.....Job was asked....
“Where were you when I founded the earth?
Tell me, if you think you understand.
5 Who set its measurements, in case you know,
Or who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 Into what were its pedestals sunk,
Or who laid its cornerstone,
7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together,
And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?”
So “the (firstborn) son of God” was created first, and all other things came into existence through his agency. (Col 1:15-17) He is the “us” and “our” in Genesis 1:26.
“This one was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.” (John 1:2-3) There it is...in plain English.
Jesus was born with the spirit of Christ in him coming out of the womb. You and I weren't. But then, neither were we "brethren" to Jesus until our spirit got born again, into the spirit of "Christ in us".
"Any one who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, "
Jesus was born like any other normal, mortal human.....it was his origin that made his sinless condition possible. God provided the ransom for Adam’s children by producing another sinless human to pay it.
His “brethren” were his “brothers”.....those whom he would take to heaven with him. They are not his sons but fellow “sons of God”.
The criteria of his judging between “the sheep and the goats” was the support given to his “brothers” by the sheep. So the “sheep” are not his “brothers”, but those who support them. (Matt 25:31-34; 41; 45-46)
Yes a study of just what creation is being spoken of is huge. Because we are not talking about the FIRST ADAM or original creation of GOD making the heavens and earth etc. We are talking about the NEW CREATION which began with the "Last Adam".
2CO 5:17 Therefore, if any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, behold, the new has come.
GAL 6:15 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
Only thing that makes us SONS OF GOD is when our spirits are born again and we have the same spirit in us that God placed into the egg of Mary. From Mary Jesus was made the son of man, and from the spirit of Christ Jesus was made the son of God.
Yes, but the distinction I would make is that there are Christ’s “brothers”, chosen by God to rule as “kings and priests” in heaven with their Lord and King (Rev 20:6) and there are those over who these ones will rule on earth. Two distinct groups.....not all Christians will go to heaven....paradise will be restored right here on earth.
God’s first purpose to have an earth “filled” with Adam’s perfect children never went away....when the devil tempted the first humans into sin, Jehovah did not abandon his first purpose....he merely took a detour to give all of us and his angelic sons, a demonstration of what the abuse of free will leads to.....the world we have endured for thousands of years in suffering and turmoil, with man trying to rule himself unsuccessfully generation after generation. Have we got the message yet?
Humans were never designed to rule themselves, so that when they do, it throughly corrupts them, leading to bloodshed and coming under the overpowering will of those in authority. When has human rulership ever succeeded in the people being happy and living in peace and security for any length of time? Things can change overnight and there is little we can do to stop what will happen next. The Bible tells us what is coming....the greatest tribulation this world has ever seen.....(Matt 24:21)
The Bible gives us hope that this world of wicked mankind will be taken out, and replaced by the one we should have had from the beginning.....not a new planet or universe, because there is no defect in any of that.....it is the wicked humans who live here that need to be evicted so that God’s purpose for us can finally be achieved. (Isa 55:11)
Rev 21:2-4 is confirmation that this will be our future...if we remain faithful to God in all things.
“ I also saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
For the majority of “mankind” earth will be their permanent home as it was always intended to be....and for a privileged “few” it will mean a complete transformation in their physical form to put on the same kind of body that Jesus was given at his resurrection.....a spirit body, so as to live in the spirit realm. These “joint-heirs with Christ”, chosen by God for this role, will be the perfect ruling body to bring us back to the Father in reconciliation, eliminating the debilitating effects of sin, and having the kind of rulership that is peaceful, incorruptible, and everlasting. A complete restoration of a paradise earth for which we were designed.