No worries. All is forgiven. - LOLGuilty as charged - and unrepentant!
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No worries. All is forgiven. - LOLGuilty as charged - and unrepentant!
Count me in.So, are you and Steve IN or OUT? Also we're leaving early in the AM and I'm done for tonight.
My wife and I have had discussions on this topic as well. I see it as the next HUGE hurdle the church needs to get over.So, my wife and I have to have a 'discussion' concerning what we recently learned from a reent church blowup on the subject. We had firmly decided you love the sinner like Jesus did, but you don't condone 'the sin' either, like Jesus did.
K also asked me about do you go to the wedding. My wife has a bigger heart than I do, no surprises HERE. But she also knows that I have the bigger spiritual head. I told her Going is condoning the sin. That was hard because I do love him and always have.
So,Bro, it looks like "LAMBANO" is now as hard to find as KILROY was.....on the WWII monument last week when I went to Washington DC on the Honor Flight with 150 other Vets.My wife and I have had discussions on this topic as well. I see it as the next HUGE hurdle the church needs to get over.
I look forward to reading the story on your experience. (on pins and needles)
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I've come to see Christian love as being committed to the wellbeing of others, and that doesn't have anything to do with personal feelings and preferences, such as "like".One of the definitions of "Agape" love I came across was that the happiness and well-being of the one loved is integral to one's own. I suppose by that definition, you can act to the benefit of another (and be happy about it?) without necessarily liking them.
Maybe. I'm all for "acting for the benefit of others". And I know about hurting when others hurt. It's the "and be happy for the other's well-being" part when you don't particularly like them that I question.
Can you separate who a person is, from what they do, or what they seem like to you?LOL
See what a twisted mess we have created with this whole subject?
We should assume that loving someone also means liking them.
But the liking seems more difficult than the emotionless "loving" of them.
That's probably the best way to handle it.
It's going to be a real challenge with some folks.
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Sorry. I missed your post somehow.Wow, I journey alone here, so I will quit. Too bad, never even got one response from the two I asked to join. Maybe I should have opened it up to all comers. Surely someone would have stood up for 'their beliefs and hopes'.
In general, but sometimes that adage is used to justify some hateful behavior toward others outside the tribe.From POST 37:
QUESTION ONE
Where are you and your wife with 'our' 1st conclusion "Love the SINNER but not the SIN?". Are you good with that as a working foundation to build upon? Or do we need to discuss 'that point' any further?
And that's a mighty big 'but' we have there.QT said:The Limited Aspect of Christian Love - "I love you, but I don't like you."
'I love you'....that's the BS
'but I don't like you' .....that's the reality
....determined by the 'but'
I'm sure that we've seen the gamut just as you have concerning this issue. The church has justified hatred many times in its history.In general, but sometimes that adage is used to justify some hateful behavior toward others outside the tribe.
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Good rule of thumb.QUESTION ONE
Where are you with my 1st conclusion: "Love the SINNER but not the SIN?". Are you good with that as a working foundation to build upon? Or do we need to discuss 'that point' any further?
Yes, if you don't support the wedding, you don't send a gift.QUESTION TWO
So, where are you at with my Part 2 decision of not even sending a gift to their wedding? Would you/wife agree or disagree.
I like the way that played out. I agree. Good decision.QUESTION THREE
So, where do you stand with my part 3 decision? Was I right, was I wrong. All I can say is I will choose this step and stand before Jesus on the day of judgment for all the words I have spoke and all of the deeds I have done and await His judgment on me.
Did you read the OP?Its good to love always and like whenever possible but to love even when liking someone isn't the case.
There's a part 4. But I thought I'd wait a little longer, just to see if anyone else comments before posting it. What do you think? I know you're going to love it.Did you read the OP?
It sounds as if you do not yet grasp why liking is better than loving.
There are people we HAVE to love, but we don't like them. Like is better.
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What does it mean to you to love others?
I did read the OP. I do not agree that like is better because I see liking as just a preference in our emotions whereas biblical love is doing practical things to help others.Did you read the OP?
It sounds as if you do not yet grasp why liking is better than loving.
There are people we HAVE to love, but we don't like them. Like is better.
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Can you separate who a person is, from what they do, or what they seem like to you?
Much love!