How Jesus has ALREADY Reconciled Us and the World unto God.

[JBO]

What is the flesh?

Romans 8:3-4King James Version (KJV) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Just found this commentary/ scripture...

35 Verses About Uncleanness ​

Leviticus 5:3​

Or if he touch the uncleanness of man, whatsoever uncleanness [it be] that a man shall be defiled withal, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth [of it], then he shall be guilty.

Leviticus 7:20​

But the soul that eateth [of] the flesh of the sacrifice of peace offerings, that [pertain] unto the LORD, having his uncleanness upon him, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

Leviticus 7:21​

Moreover the soul that shall touch any unclean [thing, as] the uncleanness of man, or [any] unclean beast, or any abominable unclean [thing], and eat of the flesh of the sacrifice of peace offerings, which [pertain] unto the LORD, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

Leviticus 14:19​

And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward he shall kill the burnt offering:

Leviticus 15:3​

And this shall be his uncleanness in his issue: whether his flesh run with his issue, or his flesh be stopped from his issue, it [is] his uncleanness.

I know what unclean means. None of those verses says that man's flesh is unclean. They do present ways in which a man can become unclean. But they also point out how the man can become clean; and in doing so, the flesh is not changed in any way.

 

[Ritajanice]

I know what unclean means. None of those verses says that man's flesh is unclean. They do present ways in which a man can become unclean. But they also point out how the man can become clean; and in doing so, the flesh is not changed in any way.

I ask again.....what is the flesh?

And like me, you just voiced your opinion on what that scripture I posted means.

When we first become Born Again.....can the flesh fight against the Spirit?

Is it the Holy Spirit who brings our flesh under control?....does he teach us to submit to the will of God

The Holy Spirit helps us align with God's will by interceding for us during those times. “In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.

@JBO ?

The old man is our old nature, is it not?....it still rises does it not?​

Ephesians 4:22-24​

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King James Version​

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22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

◄ Galatians 5:17 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. New Living Translation The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions. English Standard Version For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. Berean Standard Bible For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you want

 

[JBO]

I ask again.....what is the flesh?

Flesh in the NT is translated/interpreted from the Greek word "sarx". From Strong's Greek dictionary we have

G4561
σάρξ
sarx
sarx
Probably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is, (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred, or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such): - carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

 

[Ritajanice]

Flesh in the NT is translated/interpreted from the Greek word "sarx". From Strong's Greek dictionary we have

G4561
σάρξ
sarx
sarx
Probably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is, (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred, or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such): - carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

The flesh brings nothing but death.

The Spirit brings Life......therefore we die daily to our flesh....as we are being made into the image of Jesus.

Romans 8:6​

6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.

This is where the renewing of our minds come into play.....

 

[brightfame52]

Please give me the Biblical reference that says that sinful flesh is unclean. We were created with sinful flesh. Are you suggesting that God created us as unclean? To you who seem to like to declare others to be blasphemous, I think accusing God of creating us as unclean could well be considered blasphemous.

Im not going back and forth with your blasphemy

 

[JBO]

The flesh brings nothing but death.

The Spirit brings Life......therefore we die daily to our flesh....as we are being made into the image of Jesus.

Romans 8:6​

6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.

Yes, so what is your point? Nothing there says anything about the flesh being unclean.

 

[Ritajanice]

Yes, so what is your point? Nothing there says anything about the flesh being unclean.

I never said it did....

 

[JBO]

Im not going back and forth with your blasphemy

That's good, because I am not going back and for with your blasphemy either.

 

[Ritajanice]

Im not going back and forth with your blasphemy

The sin nature is unclean....is it biblical?

 

[JBO]

I never said it did....

You posted a bunch of verses from the OT talking about things being unclean. That followed from my objection to brightframe's assertion of man's flesh being unclean.

 

[Ritajanice]

You posted a bunch of verses from the OT talking about things being unclean. That followed from my objection to brightframe's assertion of man's flesh being unclean.

And..?

He interprets sin as unclean.....what is a sin nature if it’s not unclean @JBO ?

Commentary.

"The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like." (Galatians 5:19-21)

 

[brightfame52]

The sin nature is unclean....is it biblical?

Its worthy of Gods Wrath Eph 2:3

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

 

[Ritajanice]

Its worthy of Gods Wrath Eph 2:3

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

"The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like." (Galatians 5:19-21)

 

[brightfame52]

"The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like." (Galatians 5:19-21)

The word nature in Eph 2:3 is the greek word physis:


nature

1. the nature of things, the force, laws, order of nature
   1. as opposed to what is monstrous, abnormal, perverse
   2. as opposed what has been produced by the art of man: the natural branches, i.e. branches by the operation of nature
2. birth, physical origin

Man by nature at birth is worthy of wrath.

 

[Ritajanice]

The word nature in Eph 2:3 is the greek word physis:


nature

1. the nature of things, the force, laws, order of nature
   1. as opposed to what is monstrous, abnormal, perverse
   2. as opposed what has been produced by the art of man: the natural branches, i.e. branches by the operation of nature
2. birth, physical origin

Man by nature at birth is worthy of wrath.

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that man by nature is worthy of wrath.

Babies....nothing in Gods word that says they are worthy of wrath.

That’s your own commentary.

 

[brightfame52]

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that man by nature is worthy of wrath.

Babies....nothing in Gods word that says they are worthy of wrath.

That’s your own commentary.

I see you in the dark as well.

 

[brightfame52]

We have people here Blaspheming God and Christ saying babies are sinless, yet they have a sin nature. Why does a baby have a sin nature if it isnt a sinner ? Also Why was the Lord Jesus Christ Born of a Virgin if babies are born sinless ? Why didnt Jesus be born like us with a Biological Mother and Father ? According to these blasphemers He would have been born as righteous as He is anyway . One other Blasphemer says a sinful baby is as righteous as Christ is. Thats Blasphemy to the Highest Heavens.

 

[Ritajanice]

I see you in the dark as well.

I don’t care where you see me.

I only care how God sees me...and I’ve had no revelation that Babies go to hell...

Which you are preaching.....

Not one word in Gods word that Babies go to hell....as I know you would have posted that scripture by now.

You can’t...because it not in Gods word....

 

[Ritajanice]

We have people here Blaspheming God and Christ saying babies are sinless, yet they have a sin nature. Why does a baby have a sin nature if it isnt a sinner ? Also Why was the Lord Jesus Christ Born of a Virgin if babies are born sinless ? Why didnt Jesus be born like us with a Biological Mother and Father ? According to these blasphemers He would have been born as righteous as He is anyway . One other Blasphemer says a sinful baby is as righteous as Christ is. Thats Blasphemy to the Highest Heavens.

no one said a baby is as righteous as Christ....no one is righteous..we are made righteous through Gods Son, when we become Born Again.....

And who are you to judge others, when you preach that Babies go to hell..!!!

Plus you teach that God makes us the way we are.....what a load of rubbish.

 

[brightfame52]

I don’t care where you see me.

I only care how God sees me...and I’ve had no revelation that Babies go to hell...

Which you are preaching.....

Not one word in Gods word that Babies go to hell....as I know you would have posted that scripture by now.

You can’t...because it not in Gods word....

You have been deceived, the only hope is that God will have mecy on you