gay christians?

[Mr E]

Hey troll

Dichiarazione “Fiducia supplicans” sul senso pastorale delle benedizioni del Dicastero per la Dottrina della Fede

press.vatican.va

that is a link to the declaration. Quote from it to prove me wrong. If you can’t prove me wrong publicly apologize


Deal?

This makes me wonder if you’ve read it.

 

[Philip James]

they still think it's a sin the gay person can swing by the church and confess to their priest and be all good to go.

well, yes, in a way.. you do understand what the Sacrament if reconcillation entails yes?

Maranatha

 

[Philip James]

You're saying the news media all got together and decided to publish false reports claiming your pope dude guy is saying it's OK to bless same sex couples?

They just came out with this out of the blue and for no reason?

Maybe they are picking on your pope or something?

They could be just punking him!

Haha,

of course! MSM put their spin om it to fit heir propaganda...

read the document!

Maranatha

 

[Gabriel _Arch]

All these "christians" believe all our future sins are already forgiven and then they claim that doesn't apply to "gay christians"

The irony is too funny on this one!

Not really. You don't understand what Christianity teaches and that's why you think your lack of understanding warrants a charge of irony.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Not really. You don't understand what Christianity teaches and that's why you think your lack of understanding warrants a charge of irony.

The FACT of the matter is - more and more "christians" are accepting gay people and are becoming gay friendly.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

you do understand what the Sacrament if reconcillation entails yes?

I know enough to know that catholics aren't Christians.

They have their own private religion based on works that did not come from the bible.

I have family members that got inflicted with being catholic and they are sketchy at best.

I've heard about all the freaky talking to the dead, spinning beads, bowing down to statues and other funky co-madina stuff they got from funky town

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I can easily quote all the personal attacks you have committed

And those personal attacks are when people say they don't agree with the freaky catholic stuff?

 

[Ziggy]

The FACT of the matter is - more and more "christians" are accepting gay people and are becoming gay friendly.

A lot of so-called christians also accepting more illegal activity such as fraud, criminal behavior, child abuse, political correctness too.
It's as if they can't tell the difference between right and wrong let alone good and evil.
But if the media says it's good, then it is. And if it says it's bad, it is.
They have no discerning ability. And yet they wear the name Christ.
There are a lot of behaviors that are going unchecked besides fornication and homosexuality.
Most of the world ran to the defence of a man that was an ex-convict who held a knife on his gf's pregnant belly while robbing her.
Tried to pass off counterfeit money, and was trafficking drugs before dying of an overdose and blaming it on law enforcement who got
22 years in prison for doing his job.
But the media says, thats not what happened, even though we have the video cams and can see with our own eyes how he was resisting arrest and acting all radical.
And some people who call themselves christians have made the media their idol.
They don't listen to what the bible says, they listen to MSDNC, CNN, PBS, FOX, AP, CBS,NBC,ABC....
These are their gods who they listen to.
And they call violence, peaceful protests, and peaceful protesters they call domestic terrorists.

The world is upside down. But God will set it upright again.
This happens every few hundred years or so.
They call it progress, we call it the endtimes.

I have an ex-brother in law that's transgender. I don't hate him. I don't associate with him.
He was married had 3 children, and when the last left home came out.
His wife divorced him, because who wants to be married to a man who believes he's a woman?
I asked him once, seeing that you believe you are a woman, do you have tendencies towards men?
He said no, he still likes women and that he isn't gay. So there is a difference I guess.
He just likes dressing up in women's clothes and hanging out with the "girls"

What I find most interesting is that all his "gf's" are ex-marines.
Makes you wonder what the military was putting in the water or maybe vaccinating them with.
No, there something going on deeper than what we see on the surface. I don't believe it's just a rebellious spirit.
I think man has his hand in this through chemicals or injections or some kinds of experiments.

And you can't hold people to blame for things they have no control over. Like you can't blame a leper for leprosy.
But here's the thing. I don't have to be a transgender to fit in with the crowd.
And a lot of people see other people getting "special treatment" and I don't believe all people that profess to be transgenders really are.
But it gives them access to people and places (like locker rooms and bathrooms) that they wouldn't otherwise have.
Or win trophy's that they otherwise couldn't.

But if someone was drowning I wouldn't ask them what their prefered gender was, I just pull them out of the water.
And even if they told me while they was drowning, I still pull them out.
Just because they do something doesn't mean I have to be like them. I still pray for them as if they was anybody else, because they are.
We all need prayers. We all need better discernment.

Hugs

 

[Taken]

One has to earn their salvation by changing the way they live and if they don't they lose their salvation and go to hell instead?

Salvation is a gift offering, (from God), to save ones soul, that which an individual can take or reject.

What happened to salvation being by faith alone plus nothing?

Faith is a gift given (from God), without an individual ‘taking’, but rather is effected by an individual hearing the word of God.

Who decides what sinful lifestyle is exactly?

Exactly…
God created Good and Evil; ie. polar opposites.

God created Angels, “holy”, with the freewill to remain “holy” or become “evil”.

God created Mankind, “good”, with the freewill to remain “good” or become “evil”.

Angels (all males), were not given attributes (seeds) to “reproduce” offsprings of their same Kind (angels) of things.

ManKind (male and females), were given attributes (seeds) expressly to “reproduce” offsprings of their same Kind (man) of things.

Holy, (angels) / Good, (man), is widely revealed and taught IS Very Pleasing to God.

Evil, (angels) / Evil, (man), is widely revealed and taught IS Very Displeasing to God.

* The Very Displeasing freewill choices, of angels of mankind; is widely revealed and taught via Gods Word, that such EVIL choices of angels or mankind, is Called being AGAINST God.

* Being AGAINST God; is summed up in ONE TERM, called SIN.

So the answer IS: Who exactly decides what SIN is exactly IS God.

God IS the model, the example of Supreme Holiness and Goodness.

Angels and manKIND have the “freewill” to choose to model their own lives according to Gods holiness and goodness, or not.

ManKIND has in and of their own “PERSON”, ( a wonderfully made Living body, and wonderfully made living soul ) to freely choose for themselves their own lifestyle, and freely choose to like, support, agree or disagree , reject, forbid, with / an other’s freely chosen lifestyle.

That would mean our future sins are not all forgiven then tight?

How does a man, who is bodily physically dead (who knows or can do nothing), or spiritually accounted dead (crucified with Christ) and thereafter spiritually accounted spiritually alive, commit something being called a “future” sin?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

gay christians?
Thread title ^

Personally I would emphasize the ?

In Scripture, “gay” simply meant “attire / apparel / clothing”, with the implication of the clothing being made tidy, worn clean, and fitting.

The “gay” clothing was in contrast to untidy, unfitting, ragged, dirty clothing.

The POINT in Scripture, was specifically ABOUT other persons reaction and “treatment toward” one wearing “gay apparel” and one wearing “ragged, dirty apparel”.

The “treatment” by, of others, through-out ancient and modern times; has been taught, programed, expected, demanded and flaunted to:
Treat the “well” attired person with “high” regard…
AND:
Treat the “ill” attired person with “low” regard…

Through-out history, to this day; The more an individual could layer fine, beautiful, intricate, Fabrics upon their outer body and adorn their body with lotions, pleasant smells and jewels….the “higher” they had / have an expectation and often demand “to BE “highly” regarded” and “treated” among the general population.

Regardless of “clothing, apparel, jewels, or otherwise outer bodily adornments”, a “Christian” is wholly about the “INNER SPIRIT” of a man.

Since the term “GAY” has been hijacked and redefined (by some) being a reference:
FROM CLOTHING TO SEXUAL INCLINATIONS TOWARD THE SAME GENDER…
Does CHRISTIAN as well require a REDEFINED definition to properly put IN CONTEXT a “Gay Christian” ?

Just pondering…

 

[Marymog]

And those personal attacks are when people say they don't agree with the freaky catholic stuff?

Your bias has shown twice. You have taken sides without educating yourself AND you are calling what your fellow Christians on this forum believe to be 'freaky stuff'.

In these post from @Mr E (of which whom we are talking) show me where he is disagreeing with freaky catholic stuff (another derogatory remark about Catholics, this time by YOU):

Post 123 136 160 180, 187

 

[Marymog]

This makes me wonder if you’ve read it.

I have. You haven't.

I commented on it after reading it.

You commented on it after reading what the media said about it.

 

[Marymog]

Knock yourself out. I’ll wait.

Done.....I know you won't own up to it but I am learning that is the type of person you are.

 

[Marymog]

Probably because I don't trust catholics!

Have have family members that are catholic so my experience with this religion is very sketchy to say the least!

I heard you people used to kill Christians for not being catholic?

Ya'll not going to start that all up again are ya?

Hey Dan,

You HEARD? Ummmm.......have you read anything about your Christian history? Apparently not!! If you had then you would KNOW that YES, The Church, with the aid of the State, had Christians killed for being heretics. It was wrong and The Church has apologized profusely for it.

Now, since you made it clear that you haven't educated yourself on your own Christian history, did you know (or have you HEARD) that Protestants killed other Protestants AND Catholics?

Ya'll not going to start that all up again, are ya? ;)

 

[Marymog]

I guess the catholics are gay friendly now right? If they still think it's a sin the gay person can swing by the church and confess to their priest and be all good to go.

Kinda like in those mafia movies. They go out and murder someone, swing by the priest's crib for absolution, and get back to their mafia social club for some drinks with their mafia brothers.

Maybe catholics believe they can do all the sin they want as long as they go by the the priest's crib and do a few hail marys!

I head they try to talk to dead relatives and stuff. Pretty freaky stuff!

None of what you posted is true Dan....but I know that doesn't matter to you.

The Church welcomes all sinners to the table and into The Church, just like Christ did....that includes me and yes even you.

No, a sinner can not confess their sins and be all good to go IF they keep commiting that same sin over and over and over again. A confession has to be sincere and efforts to overcome that sin have to be sincere.

I guess Jesus is freaky then. Jesus talked to dead people. The Apostles witnessed it, wrote it down in Scripture. But you forgot that part of Scripture, didn't you.

Hey Dan.......What made you dislike The Church so much that you would publicly belittle it and your fellow Christians that are members of The Church?

 

[Mink57]

I know enough to know that catholics aren't Christians.

Catholics are the First Christians.

They have their own private religion based on works that did not come from the bible.

Private religion? A religion that has over 1.4 billion members world-wide, over 250,000 parishes (as of 2017), which can encompass more than one church; a Catechism that's available for ANYONE to read, is hardly what I'd call "private."

And no, it is not a church based on 'works'; It is based on the practices and the teachings of Jesus Christ along with the writings of the four Gospels and the Letters of the New Testament.

I have family members that got inflicted with being catholic and they are sketchy at best.

If your family members are 'sketchy', it probably has nothing to do with them being Catholic.

I've heard about all the freaky talking to the dead, spinning beads, bowing down to statues and other funky co-madina stuff they got from funky town

*Siiiiigh* You've "heard" about? Which means that you have no first-hand knowledge of, right? Just to clear it up for you, Catholics don't "talk to the dead", "spin beads" or "bow to statues."

Satisfied?

 

[amigo de christo]

 

[amigo de christo]

Onward in the glorious Lord . Let all that has breath praise and thank the LORD .

 

[Marymog]

You're saying the news media all got together and decided to publish false reports claiming your pope dude guy is saying it's OK to bless same sex couples?

They just came out with this out of the blue and for no reason?

Maybe they are picking on your pope or something?

They could be just punking him!

Nope, never said that or suggested that. What I am CLEARLY saying is that you should read what was written instead of reading what the news media is saying.....

YOU are the one who got punked Dan.....you just don't realize it yet.

Quote from the document where it says that The Church or priests can bless same sex marriages.....

I will go first. I will quote from the document showing how YOU have been punked:

'one should neither provide for nor promote a ritual for the blessings of couples in an irregular situation.' In any case, precisely to avoid any form of confusion or scandal, when the prayer of blessing is requested by a (same sex couple or) couple in an irregular situation, ......this blessing should never be imparted in concurrence with the ceremonies of a civil union, and not even in connection with them. Nor can it be performed with any clothing, gestures, or words that are proper to a wedding.

marriage is an "exclusive, stable and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to conceiving children,"

So now it's your turn. Quote from the document anything that supports your allegation. You can ask @Mr E @Behold for help. I know NONE of you 3 amigos have read it.....but you sure are talking a lot about it

 

[amigo de christo]

Nope, never said that or suggested that. What I am CLEARLY saying is that you should read what was written instead of reading what the news media is saying.....

YOU are the one who got punked Dan.....you just don't realize it yet.

Quote from the document where it says that The Church or priests can bless same sex marriages.....

I will go first. I will quote from the document showing how YOU have been punked:

'one should neither provide for nor promote a ritual for the blessings of couples in an irregular situation.' In any case, precisely to avoid any form of confusion or scandal, when the prayer of blessing is requested by a (same sex couple or) couple in an irregular situation, ......this blessing should never be imparted in concurrence with the ceremonies of a civil union, and not even in connection with them. Nor can it be performed with any clothing, gestures, or words that are proper to a wedding.

marriage is an "exclusive, stable and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to conceiving children,"

So now it's your turn. Quote from the document anything that supports your allegation. You can ask @Mr E @Behold for help. I know NONE of you 3 amigos have read it.....but you sure are talking a lot about it

The protestant realm made these same identical claims as it too DECIEVED its own .
THEY DO THIS so they wont lose their base and yet all the while they know exactly what they are doing .
Getting folks onto the emotional bandwagon and as time goes on , THEY SOON accept it as GOOD .
THEY Know what they are doing . Christendom has BEEN HIJACKED and its been HIGHJACKED by men from within
with a universal mindset that knows how to gather all tribes to be as one and do its bidding as one .
YA GETTING DUPED just like the protestant realm got duped . We dont bless sin , we correct sin .
THEY Know how to word play and use emotions to get the job done .