Why its important to keep the Sabbath

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Grailhunter

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So I've said, quite straight forward-like, that what I believe they really mean is that the 10 Commandments, though part of the Law, are representative of the fact that the Law contains an eternal moral imperative, to live in God's image, to be "like" God. It is not an endorsement of the Sabbath Law as part of the New Covenant.

Correct amondo...
But there are people that really do not have it in their head to get it straight.
God never called the ten items in chapter 20 commandments.

They are summaries of Laws and as you should expect the details of each of these summaries are fully explained in the body of the 613 Mosaic Laws. Beyond that Christians do not have a Saturday Sabbath, Christians are not concerned about engraved images and our wives are not listed along with our property. Then you have….You shall have no other gods before me.....In Christianity we have the God Yahweh and the God Yeshua and the God Holy Spirit so this does not apply. You can do a tap dance and razzmatazz and word juggling if you want and say 3 Gods in one.....But the Jews will never buy that. Three named Gods that talked to each other and interacted with each other and referenced each other as Father and Son....notice the and 1+1+1=3.

The Ten Commandments that the Covenant was formed in accordance with are in Exodus 34:10-28
Be sure to observe what I am commanding you this day….Exodus 34:11

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” 28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments. Exodus 34”27 & 28

It is all well and good but as far as religious standards or guidance they are not part of Christianity.
 
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Looks like we're making progress..
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I'm home. Was a good day today. Sun is shining, weather is pleasant, even had lunch with Dad's girlfriend today that went with me to visit.
Miracles never cease to amaze me.
Dad is doing good, sitting up in the chair, eating and chatting away.
How as your day?

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You mean the spirit that leads us through his laws that he wrote on our heart so we would never be far from them? hmmx1: :waves:
The law written on the heart is not the shadow of the fruit of the Spirit. It's the fruit itself. You need a building in Jerusalem because you won't have the boldness to enter the true tabernacle through Christ, so you will stay far away from the veil.

That veil is clearly still covering your heart and mind when you read the law. The law and commandments and all the Old Testament is instruction to lead you to Christ and through Christ to the law of life in Christ Jesus.
 
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Correct amondo...
But there are people that really do not have it in their head to get it straight.
God never called the ten items in chapter 20 commandments.

They are summaries of Laws and as you should expect the details of each of these summaries are fully explained in the body of the 613 Mosaic Laws. Beyond that Christians do not have a Saturday Sabbath, Christians are not concerned about engraved images and our wives are not listed along with our property. Then you have….You shall have no other gods before me.....In Christianity we have the God Yahweh and the God Yeshua and the God Holy Spirit so this does not apply. You can do a tap dance and razzmatazz and word juggling if you want and say 3 Gods in one.....But the Jews will never buy that. Three named Gods that talked to each other and interacted with each other and referenced each other as Father and Son....notice the and 1+1+1=3.

The Ten Commands that the Covenant was formed in accordance with are in Exodus 34:10-28
Be sure to observe what I am commanding you this day….Exodus 34:11

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” 28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments. Exodus 34”27 & 28

It is all well and good but as far as religious standards or guidance they are not part of Christianity.
AMAZING! One of the greatest examples of blasphemy in a post I've witnessed in awhile.

I knew there was something wrong with your 'theology' before.

Now,you've demonstrated in your own words that you have no thing to do with Jesus,no comprehension of scripture, and are an enemy of all that the church,believers,live for, live within,and that lives within us.

Grail hunting=total Arthurian pagan myth and fiction.

Now,I know who you are. WOW!
 

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Sabbath keepers. Please get rid of your pagan reference to the sabbath day if you want to obey the law and the commandments. Saturday comes from the name of the god Saturn, who shares the same name as the planet associated with him.

How far do you want to go with your obedience of sin to the shadow of the holiness of God. Half way, or all the way?
 
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Ain't no Christian Sabbath!!!
You mean there is no Gentile Sabbath?
Christian is a combo of both Jew and Gentile.
Jews recieved the law and Gentiles recieved Faith through Abraham who was a Gentile before he became a Hebrew before he had Jacob who became Israel.
I don't see where God told Abraham to keep a day seperate from the rest.
What I do see is when God promised Abraham that his heritage would come into the promised land, then there they would find rest.
Unless you can show me the Sabbath before Moses. I can't find it, except noted as the seventh day in Genesis.
Still looking..
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The other 9 Commandments are still in force, aren't they? The law that was fulfilled was the ceremonial law. Handwriting of ordinances.
There is no command to keep Sunday..
The 7th day rest shows God as Creator. If you dont want to keep it, no skin off my back. But you cany say one of the 10 is gone. It is a set, written by Gpds finger. And if you are gonna do the new covenant, know that it is a rehash of the old covenant. Please read Lev 19:18 and Deut 6:5--you'll see both Love the Lord thy God, and love thy neighbor as thyself.
 
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Sabbath keepers. Please get rid of your pagan reference to the sabbath day if you want to obey the law and the commandments. Saturday comes from the name of the god Saturn, who shares the same name as the planet associated with him.

How far do you want to go with your obedience of sin to the shadow of the holiness of God. Half way, or all the way?
P Poor argument
 

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AMAZING! One of the greatest examples of blasphemy in a post I've witnessed in awhile.

I knew there was something wrong with your 'theology' before.

Now,you've demonstrated in your own words that you have no thing to do with Jesus,no comprehension of scripture, and are an enemy of all that the church,believers,live for, live within,and that lives within us.

Grail hunting=total Arthurian pagan myth and fiction.

Now,I know who you are. WOW!

I am not sure exactly what you are talking about but I am against false beliefs because they are from Satan.
 

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Sabbath keepers. Please get rid of your pagan reference to the sabbath day if you want to obey the law and the commandments. Saturday comes from the name of the god Saturn, who shares the same name as the planet associated with him.

How far do you want to go with your obedience of sin to the shadow of the holiness of God. Half way, or all the way?
OK, now Arthurian chaser's blasphemy was just tied .

Zao is a sarcastic note to the Christians here,isn't it?
 

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P Poor argument
It's not a poor argument at all. "Obedience of sin" = sinful humans thinking they can please God through fallen human obedience to the shadow of the holiness of God, even though the law is broken. It was broken by those the covenant of law was made with, and the marriage based on a covenant based on obedience to laws which are the shadow of the holiness of God, which has been broken, has been forever abolished in the flesh of the one who fulfilled it when He died, and by His death, replaced it with the New Covenant in His blood.
 

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OK, now Arthurian chaser's blasphemy was just tied .

Zao is a sarcastic note to the Christians here,isn't it?
There's something not very Christian about those who make themselves agents of Satan to become false accusers of the brethren on his part.

Especially when it's done by his nature - subtly.
 

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It's not a poor argument at all. "Obedience of sin" = sinful humans thinking they can please God through fallen human obedience to the shadow of the holiness of God, even though the law is broken. It was broken by those the covenant of law was made with, and the marriage based on a covenant based on obedience to laws which are the shadow of the holiness of God, which has been broken, has been forever abolished in the flesh of the one who fulfilled it when He died, and by His death, replaced it with the New Covenant in His blood.
Yes,you've made that vacant statement repeatedly. It has no substantive relationship to scripture. Much less the New covenant.

You're trying to sound learned as you mean to say,scripture means nothing. Just claim the name of Christ and you're good to go.
No rules. Just hold on to the idea of Christ and his salvation.

That's called, Pascal's Wager.
 

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OK, now Arthurian chaser's blasphemy was just tied .

Zao is a sarcastic note to the Christians here,isn't it?
There's something not very Christian about those who make themselves agents of Satan to become false accusers of the brethren on his part.

Especially when it's done by his nature - subtly.
Ain't no Christian Sabbath!!!
Ain't no Jewish Israel either.
 

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There's something not very Christian about those who make themselves agents of Satan to become false accusers of the brethren on his part.

Especially when it's done by his nature - subtly.
Well,at least you self identify now to what I and others have seen in your posts,and those other profiles, that you render here.

This isn't a game. Stop playing.
 

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Yes,you've made that vacant statement repeatedly. It has no substantive relationship to scripture. Much less the New covenant.

You're trying to sound learned as you mean to say,scripture means nothing. Just claim the name of Christ and you're good to go.
No rules. Just hold on to the idea of Christ and his salvation.

That's called, Pascal's Wager.
No Pascal's Wager is akin to your empty counter-arguments such as the one above. No scriptural backing whatsoever and a red herring.
 

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Well,at least you self identify now to what I and others have seen in your posts,and those other profiles, that you render here.

This isn't a game. Stop playing.
No, Your argument above is YOU and the subtle things YOU say.

You shouldn't sit in front of the mirror talking to the man in your mirror like that. It's embarrassing.

@BlesedPeace

Now prove to everyone who might read this that you obey Christ and His commandment and have the humility to drop your pride for once.
 

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Ain't no Jewish Israel either.
Bingo! Now, all the moderators need do is go back to the list of accounts banned for open antisemitism in the first threads that appeared discussing the terror attack against Israel in October, and look to the related IP addresses to find out which one of those is now right here. *Points to quote

Get them mad and their true nature kicks up,and pours out.
 
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It's not a poor argument at all. "Obedience of sin" = sinful humans thinking they can please God through fallen human obedience to the shadow of the holiness of God, even though the law is broken. It was broken by those the covenant of law was made with, and the marriage based on a covenant based on obedience to laws which are the shadow of the holiness of God, which has been broken, has been forever abolished in the flesh of the one who fulfilled it when He died, and by His death, replaced it with the New Covenant in His blood.
Yes, the death on the cross saves us--we become new creatures in Christ, and seek to do His will. We cannot keep the law--Jesus Himself magnified the Law--even saying that adultery can be a thought, or that hate is murder--we do this--why in the world would He break the Law down like that, and then poof! it's gone.''But He didn't Sin is still sin. Every sin can be found in the 10 Commandments. We love the Lord and do His will.
No skin off my back, like I said, if you don't want to keep sabbath. Up to you, really. I don't condemn you for it.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
John 14:15 1 If you love Me, keep My commandments.