Alien life on other planets

[Traveler]

You guys may want to have a closer look at this;

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Now Christ will be collecting his elect from one end of the earth to the other but he also says from one end of the heavens to the other. Now whether we get scattered across the heavens by our own power or we get carried there by others is immaterial, the promise is that no matter where we get to be we will be collected.

This is important to know so if you find yourselves caught up in an alien slave trade, you will not be forgotten even if you are away from this earth at the time of the rapture.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Initially, some Israelites thought that the LORD was only the God of the Hebrews. By the time of the exile, the prophets made it clear that the LORD ruled all peoples and all things.

The Bible does not assert the existence of intelligent aliens one way or another. Neither does it exclude its possibility. Mark 16:


world G2889. κόσμος (kosmos), Thayer's Greek Lexicon:


My paraphrase:

Go into all the universe and
preach the gospel to all creation

universe || creation

If there are moral agents on another planet, this will be the updated interpretation of the Great Commission.

As far as the gospel is concerned, aliens on another planet are no different from indigenous people in ancient Australia or China.

This is in the style of God's method of progressive revelation.

Earth-like planet spotted orbiting the Sun’s closest star

Earth was made first, sun and moon and stars on the 4th day. The universe was made for us to ponder God's power and glory. At the end of the Millennial Kingdom, He then destroys the physical universe ( first heavens and first earth) along with Death, Hades and everyone in it. So, not much time for any other life anywhere else ... or do you think Jesus visited that planet and went through the same sacrifice? No.
Seems like a lot of wasted space as they say. I wouldn't have any problem with life on other planets but if you take the Bible literally, the universe is needed for whatever physics is required for earth to exist and for scenic pleasure.

 

[TonyChanYT]

And what would be the point?

Answer the question and you will see.

Let proposition P1 = If God has not told us, we should not try to find out.

True?

 

[keithr]

If there are moral agents on another planet, this will be the updated interpretation of the Great Commission.

As far as the gospel is concerned, aliens on another planet are no different from indigenous people in ancient Australia or China.

Wrong. The Gospel message is that Jesus' sacrifice of his pefect human life pays the redemption price for all of mankind, so that all of mankind may have eternal life. Jesus' sacrifice applies only to humans that are descended from Adam, for he is paying Adam's penalty for sin - the death of a perfect man (Jesus) as a substitute for the death of a perfect man (Adam). It does not apply to any other kind of created life on earth or anywhere in the universe or in heaven.

Other creations on other planets (if there were such creations - I don't think that there are) would require a new sacrifice to redeem them if they had sinned. Jesus cannot become a sacrifice again, for he is now immortal and cannot die again (Revelation 1:18 - "I was dead, and behold, I am alive forever and ever").

 

[Jack]

Psalm 147:19-20
19 He declares His word to Jacob, His statutes and His judgments to Israel.
20 He has not dealt thus with any nation;

 

[TonyChanYT]

Wrong

Can you be precise and quote my words that are wrong? I prefer to argue with people who can.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Can you be precise and quote my words that are wrong? I prefer to argue with people who can.

Why do you want to argue rather than discuss the truth of scripture?

1 Timothy 6:20-21
[20]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
[21]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. (The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.)

Titus 3:9
[9]But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

 

[keithr]

Can you be precise and quote my words that are wrong? I prefer to argue with people who can.

That's what I did. Both of the sentences that I quoted I believe are wrong, for the reasons that I stated. Particularly the latter sentence, in which you wrote "As far as the gospel is concerned, aliens on another planet are no different from indigenous people in ancient Australia or China". Humans living in Australia or China are all descended from Adam and Eve, but intelligent living beings living another planets (if there were such beings) are not, and they would also unlikely to be human beings.

 

[TonyChanYT]

That's what I did. Both of the sentences that I quoted

This is how to do quotations in a scholarly manner:

1. Display and indent the quoted text.
2. Selectively bold the relevant keywords that are important to the point that you are making. No need to bold the entire sentence. Have a laser-sharp focus.
3. Be concise and precise to the point. No need to quote the whole paragraph.

This is what I do for others who read my posts. It is a standard high-school scholarship. If you practice this, I guarantee you it will sharpen your analytical thinking. In any case, no one is required to do it.

I prefer to interact with people who practice this.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Answer the question and you will see.

Let proposition P1 = If God has not told us, we should not try to find out.

True?

Well maybe He would reveal something or maybe He wouldn't. But what would be the point? How will it add to or subtract from our walk with God?

1. We would not find out in many lifetimes
2. There is no empirical proof that there is planets outside of our solar system.
3. We do not have the technology or even a blueprint for the technology to travel those distances for that long of time. Remember ther nearest star is 40,208,000,000,000 miles from here. That is 6.4 light years. And given our current ability to travel space a c. 30k/mph it would take 152,000 years to reach it!

So I ask you why?

 

[Wick Stick]

15 He said to them, “Go into all the world [G2889]and preach the gospel to all creation.

world G2889. κόσμος (kosmos), Thayer's Greek Lexicon:

3. the world, i. e. the universe

That's WAY outside of context. Just because that's an allowable translation of that word, doesn't make it the right translation for THIS verse.

 

[keithr]

This is how to do quotations in a scholarly manner:

1. Display and indent the quoted text.

It makes sense to use the forum tools for quoting posts, which is what you have just done. It clearly displays quoted text; I don't see the need to add to it.

1. Selectively bold the relevant keywords that are important to the point that you are making. No need to bold the entire sentence. Have a laser-sharp focus.

You didn't do that! It's not normally necessary to embolden text that you're quoting, as long as you don't quote more text than is necessary to show what you're responding to or commenting on.

3. Be concise and precise to the point. No need to quote the whole paragraph.​

I agree.

I see that quoting single points from a numbered list, as I've just done above, always starts the numbering at 1. I can't see how to easily edit that, except to remove the ordered list formatting and to manually insert the number and indent, as I did in the last point.

I prefer to interact with people who practice this.

We can set a good example, but it's unreasonable to expect, or insist, that everyone else will conform to the same standards.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Greek: κόσμος
Transliteration: kosmos
Pronunciation: kos'-mos
Definition: Probably from the base of G2865; orderly arrangement that is decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense including its inhabitants literally or figuratively [morally]): - adorning world.
KJV Usage: world (186x), adorning (1x).
Occurs: 187
In verses: 152

There is no indication of the word "universe." The word "universe" came much later. Perhaps it is gathered and imposed interpretation because of the phrase "orderly arrangement that is decoration." That phrase would be more appropriately be applied to the earth with its vast terrains ....and possibly its luminaries (sun, moon, stars). But there are no creatures on the sun, moon, and stars.

If there were alien life forms on other planets, He most definitely would have told us. You think not? Why would He not tell us about these entities who come here and abduct, torture, and rape people made in God's image? They definitely are fallen entities. We can tell that by their actions. In scripture, God never mentions aliens from outer space but He does reveal to us the origins of sin, the fall, fallen angels, nephilim, and demons. And how else would you explain why these "aliens" scatter when their victims call on the name of Jesus?!!

 

[TonyChanYT]

How will it add to or subtract from our walk with God?

That's a different question from the OP's. Feel free to raise this question in a separate OP.

 

[Traveler]

Well maybe He would reveal something or maybe He wouldn't. But what would be the point? How will it add to or subtract from our walk with God?

1. We would not find out in many lifetimes
2. There is no empirical proof that there is planets outside of our solar system.
3. We do not have the technology or even a blueprint for the technology to travel those distances for that long of time. Remember ther nearest star is 40,208,000,000,000 miles from here. That is 6.4 light years. And given our current ability to travel space a c. 30k/mph it would take 152,000 years to reach it!

So I ask you why?

That is not correct. It appears that the James Web telescope has detected city lights on one of the planets that orbit Alfa Centauri.

 

[JunChosen]

That's only one possible interpretation.

It IS the ONLY interpretation!! Please show us other interpretations?

To God Be The Glory

 

[DJT_47]

Initially, some Israelites thought that the LORD was only the God of the Hebrews. By the time of the exile, the prophets made it clear that the LORD ruled all peoples and all things.

The Bible does not assert the existence of intelligent aliens one way or another. Neither does it exclude its possibility. Mark 16:


world G2889. κόσμος (kosmos), Thayer's Greek Lexicon:


My paraphrase:

Go into all the universe and
preach the gospel to all creation

universe || creation

If there are moral agents on another planet, this will be the updated interpretation of the Great Commission.

As far as the gospel is concerned, aliens on another planet are no different from indigenous people in ancient Australia or China.

This is in the style of God's method of progressive revelation.

Earth-like planet spotted orbiting the Sun’s closest star

I've posted this previously.

2 scriptures to consider.

Genesis 6:6

"6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."

Why does the above say "on the earth"? If the earth was the only place humans were made on, then those words would be unnecessary and would read "and it repented the LORD that he made man".

And also consider the below.

Isaiah 45:18

"For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else."

If God made the earth not in vain but to be inhabited, could that not be said of the universe as well?

 

[TLHKAJ]

If God made the earth not in vain but to be inhabited, could that not be said of the universe as well?

Why would they be coming here and doing wicked things to people created in God's image?
Why do they run from the name of Jesus?

 

[Bill Judson]

There is no life on other planets.

Totally too funny to hear otherwise intelligent people claim their is!

 

[JunChosen]

If God made the earth not in vain but to be inhabited, could that not be said of the universe as well?

God did populate the earth!! But no where will you find language that God has created other species, except what He had stipulated in Genesis 3:20 that "Eve is the mother of all living."

This is the classic example that I've stated that many in Christendom DO NOT know how to read and understand Scripture doctrines and it's interpretations. These just don't want to take the time to study the Word.

To God Be The Glory