Eternally Grateful
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Because they do not really trust God?
Very Strange how Anyone professing to be MADE Converted….think it NOT POSSIBLE for the INTERAL Lord Gods Power to KEEP that man SAVED ONCE and FOREVER…
Glory to God,
Taken
Once saved, always saved is a myth.
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Eternally Grateful
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God can hand you on over to your own desires and lust if you rather have that. He does help by the spirit. It just depending on one that picks up their cross daily.
God has been working with me a lot lately on my drug related issues I always desire to go back and do, but damn if I keep doing them, by the time I’m older I’m gonna be miserable. It’s amazing that even while in this state Yahavah is still with me while going through the mess I have made. Still got hatred and anger issues as well. There’s my weaknesses on show for people to look at. It’s only the Lord Yeshua, and the spirit within that can help us overcome the old man that comes back up from time to time.
The choice is daily…
Eternally Grateful
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once again, we pick up our cross to mature in Christ
Not to be saved
We are saved because we came to the point of being poor in spirit and called out to God and trusted him to save us.
No one is perfect.. If works are required to be saved, No one will make it to heaven
More so I believe it is their Ignorance of not knowing HOW or WHY or WHEN a man “can”lose his Salvation.
God Bless you,
Taken
Michiah-Imla
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“…he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.” (Matthew 10:38)
So you’re suggesting that one can be both saved and not worthy of Christ at the same time???
Eternally Grateful
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May be true,
But I still believe their faith is in self. Not God.. which is why they fail to trust God would keep them saved
Eternally Grateful
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No one is worthy of God.“…he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.” (Matthew 10:38)
So you’re suggesting that one can be both saved and not worthy of Christ at the same time???
I think we found the cruxt of your problem. You think you can be worthy of his salvation and can earn it.
Repent. Stop being the pharisee and become the tax collector
Michiah-Imla
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If you pick up your cross you are!
Jesus himself says so!!
And the apostle Paul said so too!!
“…we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:” (2 Thessalonians 1:4-5)
My goodness!
The unbiblical things I hear around here never ceases to amaze me!
Eternally Grateful
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lol.
The law says your guilty if you even stumble in one part.
And you want to think your worthy?
sorry bro. You need to be more humble.
Worthy of the kingdom of God for which you suffer
This is different than being worthy of receiving eternal life.
You can not separate the two..
Jesus also said we must become bankrupt if we want to enter the kingdom. Does that sound like someone who is worthy?
I think it's just wonderful that you are able to recognize this, and to take action now to prevent this. There are so many people who don't consider the long term consequences of their choices, and I applaud you!!
Yes!! Completely so! This was a huge step for me to really fully come to understand and accept that even in the midst of my worst and most disgusting messes that God is here with me, never leaving me alone.
He who began a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ.
Much love!
Michiah-Imla
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Eternally Grateful
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lolThey are one in the same!
Where else will one spend their eternal life???
So the cross is meaningless?
come on man. why are you fighting it?
The kingdom of God is now. I am in it..
if I walk, I am blessed. if I do not. well i tried that once, I was not blessed at all..
But I was always a child of God.
I don’t believe my choice of desiring to God to use me more is wrong and allow the spirit to come about more than me sitting around smoking meth and spice all day.
The meth head who continues to believe in the death, burial, and resurrection and loves, is not a lose of a salvation… but it could hinder rewards in the afterlife.
Do you understand that or ever consider it?
A person who doesn’t have salvation, is one who renounces God and does t desire anything to to with him, they are not saved to the Kingdom of God.
Eternally Grateful
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Do I understand it?
Thats called eternal security. or OSAS
which you reject if I remember right. so do you understand it?
Once saved always saved it BS,
If a persons “Says hey God I don’t want nothing to do with you anymore” and God gives that person over to their own desires, and they become unbelieving and unfaithful.
That is not being saved to the Kingdom of Heaven.
If a persons “Says hey God I don’t want nothing to do with you anymore” and God gives that person over to their own desires, and they become unbelieving and unfaithful.
That is not being saved to the Kingdom of Heaven.
Michiah-Imla
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How did you come up with this statement?
The Kingdom of God is most certainly not now.
One false doctrine breeds another I see…
Eternally Grateful
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I am not being aggressive.
I am just telling you what you are saying
I believe what you said,l it is for that reason I BELIEVE IN ETERNAL SECURITY.
which is why I am dumbfounded that you do not. Because you keep posting things that SUPPORT it.
If you can not handle people telling you what they see you say,, Then you have more issues than I can help with
Eternally Grateful
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WHAT PERSON IS GOING TO SAY THIS AFTER THEY HAVE FULLY REPENTED AND TRUSTED IN GOD FOR THEIR ETERNAL LIFE?
That person never trusted God. thats why they never experienced it, and thats why they walk away.
Why can you not understand this?
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