Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

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Jack

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I don’t care if we ever talk again.
That's fine, but I will continue to try to pull you from Hell fire.

Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

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Yes Satan runs this world, as much as God allows.

Luke 4:5-6
5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said to Him, "All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

Jesus did not challenge Satan's comment!
 
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Have you noticed you cite the Bible and yet you deny what it says?

Really,what's your point?
 

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Yes,I saw that other thread.

My question was, you cite the Bible and then deny what it says. What's your point?
 

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You guys have no idea, about my life. All you know is I message on a board. What is it to anyone that I tend to believe differently than most individuals?
 

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You guys have no idea, about my life. All you know is I message on a board. What is it to anyone that I tend to believe differently than most individuals?
Your posts tell us what we need to know about you. You ATTACK the Christian Bible and call yourself "Christian". I'm not the only one who knows this.
 
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Like I stated. Your gonna have a hard time trying to get me to apply revelation as though it relates to us. I’m allowed to share due to freedom of speech. People are gonna, drop with their mouths wide open. People are gonna, look at another person who believes differently as odd. But in the end it’s all for God, Yahavah, whom we have fellowship and also fellowship with his Son.
 

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Your posts tell us what we need to know about you. You ATTACK the Christian Bible and call yourself "Christian". I'm not the only one who knows this.
God may judge me. Let his dealing be left to him to deal with concerning myself. You say you listen to Jesus, well do what he says and knock the dirt from your shoes and walk onward.
 

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God may judge me.
Oh yeah, and His Name isn't Yahavah.
Let his dealing be left to him to deal with concerning myself. You say you listen to Jesus, well do what he says and knock the dirt from your shoes and walk onward.
You're trying to lead people to Hell fire. I will continue to expose your HATRED for the Christian Bible.
 

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Oh yeah, and His Name isn't Yahavah.

You're trying to lead people to Hell fire. I will continue to expose your HATRED for the Christian Bible.
IMG_0124.jpegI could not care any less about what you have to say at this point due to your constant nagging. Hope you will kick the dust off your feet bud.
 

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Like I stated. Your gonna have a hard time trying to get me to apply revelation as though it relates to us. I’m allowed to share due to freedom of speech. People are gonna, drop with their mouths wide open. People are gonna, look at another person who believes differently as odd. But in the end it’s all for God, Yahavah, whom we have fellowship and also fellowship with his Son.
Actually, there is no freedom of speech on a privately run message board. It is a privilege to be allowed on any forum. Which is why there is the registration process.

It is why there is an accord condition attached to said registration,in most cases,wherein an applicant consents to be in accord with a forums statement of faith.

There are also rules applied to members and their postings that make their membership conditional upon compliance to said rules.

No,we don't know your life. That's a given regarding all members in any forum.

What we learn about you,and by relation your life, is what you post as your personal statements of faith.

And those are what lead to the observations regarding this that some have posted here.

You claim to not know what full preterism is. Yet, you post as one who identifies with full preterism.

You quote scripture as it suits and then deny scripture says what you've posted.

Personally, I think you are playing games at our expense.
 

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Actually, there is no freedom of speech on a privately run message board. It is a privilege to be allowed on any forum. Which is why there is the registration process.

It is why there is an accord condition attached to said registration,in most cases,wherein an applicant consents to be in accord with a forums statement of faith.

There are also rules applied to members and their postings that make their membership conditional upon compliance to said rules.

No,we don't know your life. That's a given regarding all members in any forum.

What we learn about you,and by relation your life, is what you post as your personal statements of faith.

And those are what lead to the observations regarding this that some have posted here.

You claim to not know what full preterism is. Yet, you post as one who identifies with full preterism.

You quote scripture as it suits and then deny scripture says what you've posted.

Personally, I think you are playing games at our expense.
Perhaps that is by Gods vengeance. I don’t know. Assuming is terrible. :coldsweat:

”Wish only good for those who treat you badly. Ask God to bless them, not curse them. When others are happy, you should be happy with them. And when others are sad, you should be sad too. Live together in peace with each other. Don’t be proud, but be willing to be friends with people who are not important to others. Don’t think of yourself as smarter than everyone else. If someone does you wrong, don’t try to pay them back by hurting them. Try to do what everyone thinks is right. Do the best you can to live in peace with everyone. My friends, don’t try to punish anyone who does wrong to you. Wait for God to punish them with his anger. In the Scriptures the Lord says, “I am the one who punishes; I will pay people back.”Deuteronomy 32:35 But you should do this: “If you have enemies who are hungry, give them something to eat. If you have enemies who are thirsty, give them something to drink. In doing this you will make them feel ashamed.” Proverbs 25:21-22 Don’t let evil defeat you, but defeat evil by doing good.“
‭‭Romans‬ ‭12‬:‭14‬-‭21‬ ‭ERV‬‬
 

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I disagree. Either the promises to come at that time happened, or the whole Bible to me is just a lie. You won’t get very far trying to get me to believe Satan is still around today.

I believe the contents of the Bible and Jesus’s return to the generation which he proclaimed all things much come to pass, and the nations can be seen as the 12 tribes themselves and surrounding nations. Never America, or Austria, or Australia…

As usual most people fight against it due to traditional mentality.

You can get a whole group of 50 people to agree with you and I’ll still disagree.
I am sure you will. You see things that I don't.
 

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You guys have no idea, about my life. All you know is I message on a board. What is it to anyone that I tend to believe differently than most individuals?
I am willing to bet I can match your life and then some.

That has nothing to do with people disagreeing on a message board. It is what we do if you have not noticed.

You have plenty of company out there... you just need to let your fingers do the walking.

I have had a near 5 year back and forth with a person like you. Not here. was on another message board.

You tend to believe differently than most individuals. Wanna tackle Genesis with me... I am different then 19 out of 20 here. Want to tack the real day the crucifixion took place. That is always a fun go round.... But until you have had 13 people question whether you are or will be saved... (not here, elsewhere) ... well, ya gotta be a duck and let it roll off your back.
 

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Like I stated. Your gonna have a hard time trying to get me to apply revelation as though it relates to us. I’m allowed to share due to freedom of speech. People are gonna, drop with their mouths wide open. People are gonna, look at another person who believes differently as odd. But in the end it’s all for God, Yahavah, whom we have fellowship and also fellowship with his Son.

Oh yeah, and His Name isn't Yahavah.

You're trying to lead people to Hell fire. I will continue to expose your HATRED for the Christian Bible.
Jack.

Before the Christian New Testament was the Hebrew bible.

Before you make unsubstantiated claims do a little research.


From: The Light of Torah Messianic Congregation

Are YaHaVahs’ Festivals Still Relevant Today?​

Go read the link....

You have to remember that you are not in your position because you are the light of the Lord's eye but rather because after God's CHOSEN and Jesus being sent back for their lost sheep YOU were grafted in that olive tree, same as I was, and same as we all, who are covered by the blood of Jesus and having had our spiritual born again experiences are.
 

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Jack.

Before the Christian New Testament was the Hebrew bible.

Before you make unsubstantiated claims do a little research.


From: The Light of Torah Messianic Congregation

Are YaHaVahs’ Festivals Still Relevant Today?​

Go read the link....

You have to remember that you are not in your position because you are the light of the Lord's eye but rather because after God's CHOSEN and Jesus being sent back for their lost sheep YOU were grafted in that olive tree, same as I was, and same as we all, who are covered by the blood of Jesus and having had our spiritual born again experiences are.
Then why isn't Yahavah even mentioned ONCE in the Bible?
 

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Show us a Christian Bible that says "Yahavah". Can't find even one?
Jack....

They just keep poppin up.

Here is another:


The Faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob​


Part One

There are twenty generations from Adam (Ge. 2:7) to our father Abraham. YaHaVah called Abraham into faith in Ge. 12:1 – 3: “Now the LORD had said to Abram: ‘get out of your country, from your family and from your father’s house, to a land that I will show you
 
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