Enemies Occupy the Holy Land

[quietthinker]

They are far more well spoken than you who knows only how to speak in cryptic bumper sticker slogans.

I wonder whether many of Jesus' words are considered as cryptic by those people then and the people today?
.....and why are they considered this way? Could it be that the paradigm Jesus is seeing from is so at odds with the way people saw then and today that's the only conclusion they could come to?

Do we really conclude that Jesus spoke in ways (cryptic) to deliberately confuse people?

Perhaps his silence at his trial is a clue? Perhaps the shortsightedness of people is a clue? Perhaps the speed at which the poo-hooing is forthcoming and the lack of further enquiry is a clue?......or do you mean to tell me everything you know Jesus said is as clear as crystal?.....if it is not, why isn't it?

 

[covenantee]

They will lose some but they're home to stay in the Land of the Bible! All the wannabees in the world can't remove them!

For what reason(s) will they "lose some"?

Who are the "some" that they will lose?

Aren't they all chosen people?

You also need to describe for us who "they" and "them" are.

How are they recognized? What are their identifying qualifying characteristics?

 

[quietthinker]

You hear/ interpret as you do Keraz because you know no other way.

@BlessedPeace
you laugh BP, no doubt you don't think the same factor applies to you also?

 

[Jack]

For what reason(s) will they "lose some"?

That's what happens in war.

Who are the "some" that they will lose?

Only God knows.

Aren't they all chosen people?

Only God knows.

You also need to describe for us who "they" and "them" are.

How are they recognized? What are their identifying qualifying characteristics?

I don't need to describe anything. Israel is the Land of the Bible and that's what God promised His people. They're home to stay.

 

[quietthinker]

That's what happens in war.

Only God knows.

Only God knows.

I don't need to describe anything. Israel is the Land of the Bible and that's what God promised His people. They're home to stay.

and it's acceptable to engage in genocide ie, wiping out any who don't belong to your club when the opportunity arises?
How is it when Mr Hitler attempted the same game the World was outraged but the objection in most Government circles is near mute when a similar activity occurs in Palestine?

 

[Jack]

and it's acceptable to engage in genocide ie, wiping out any who don't belong to your club when the opportunity arises?
How is it when Mr Hitler attempted the same game the World was outraged but the objection in most Government circles is near mute when a similar activity occurs in Palestine?

God wiped out all but 8 who 'didn't belong to His club' in the Genesis Flood "making them an example". He didn't ask anyone's permission. And He's far from done.

Revelation 9:15-18
15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind.
16 Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them.
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.
18 By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed--by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

 

[covenantee]

That's what happens in war.

Only God knows.

Only God knows.

I don't need to describe anything. Israel is the Land of the Bible and that's what God promised His people. They're home to stay.

Are atheists who live in Israel "His people"?

 

[covenantee]

You should be worried about YOU, not everybody else. Why aren't YOU in Israel?

Because I'm Abraham's seed right where I am.

Now answer the question.

Are atheists who live in Israel "His people"?

 

[Jack]

Because I'm Abraham's seed right where I am.

I seriously doubt that.

Now answer the question.

Are atheists who live in Israel "His people"?

You didn't answer my question. Why aren't you in Israel? Not safe enough for you?

 

[covenantee]

I seriously doubt that.

You didn't answer my question. Why aren't you in Israel? Not safe enough for you?

Are you claiming that I'm not Abraham's seed?

Do you want to get ejected from this forum?

I answered your question directly:

"Because I'm Abraham's seed right where I am."

Now answer mine.

Are atheists who live in Israel "His people"?

 

[quietthinker]

God wiped out all but 8 who 'didn't belong to His club' in the Genesis Flood "making them an example". He didn't ask anyone's permission. And He's far from done.

Revelation 9:15-18
15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind.
16 Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them.
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.
18 By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed--by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

Sooo, you have no qualms worshipping the God of death? ....hmmmm, it appears you don't know the God of Jesus .
Dont you know who it is that has the power of Death?

Hebrews 2:14
We are people of flesh and blood. This is why Jesus became one of us. He died to destroy the devil, who had power over death

 

[Jack]

I answered your question directly:

"Because I'm Abraham's seed right where I am."

Did you suddenly forget how to read?

You didn't answer, you made up a fairy tale.

 

[covenantee]

You didn't answer, you made up a fairy tale.

So my declaration that I'm Abraham's seed, from Galatians 3:28,29, is according to you a fairy tale.

 

[Jack]

Sooo, you have no qualms worshipping the God of death? ....hmmmm, it appears you don't know the God of Jesus .
Dont you know who it is that has the power of Death?

Hebrews 2:14
We are people of flesh and blood. This is why Jesus became one of us. He died to destroy the devil, who had power over death

We'll see if you call Him the God of death on Judgment Day!

Genesis 19:24-25
24 Then the LORD rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD out of the heavens.
25 So He overthrew those cities, all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities,

 

[covenantee]

Prove it!

Disprove it.

 

[Jack]

Disprove it.

Why aren't you in Israel?

 

[Keraz]

I seriously doubt that.

The one and only way to know who is a chosen person of God, is their faith and trust in Jesus. EVERY other person, no matter how nice and good they may be; are a lost soul. Jesus said: I am the way, the truth and the Life...... John 14:6
ALL who reject Jesus, all atheists and false religion followers, are doomed.
And the idea that the Jews will be saved thru tribulation, is not what the Bible Prophets tell us.

Why aren't you in Israel?

The worst place in the world to be right now is the Middle East. The Lord will deal to His enemies there and only a small Jewish remnant will survive by hiding in bunkers. Isaiah 29:1-4, Ezekiel 21:1-7, Jeremiah 12:14

 

[Jack]

The one and only way to know who is a chosen person of God, is their faith and trust in Jesus. EVERY other person, no matter how nice and good they may be; are a lost soul. Jesus said: I am the way, the truth and the Life...... John 14:6
ALL who reject Jesus, all atheists and false religion followers, are doomed.
And the idea that the Jews will be saved thru tribulation, is not what the Bible Prophets tell us.

Guess where Jesus will return and FIGHT for. It's called Israel, the Land of the Bible!

The worst place in the world to be right now is the Middle East.

Is that why the wannabees aren't in Israel?

The Lord will deal to His enemies there and only a small Jewish remnant will survive by hiding in bunkers. Isaiah 29:1-4, Ezekiel 21:1-7, Jeremiah 12:14

Your opinions!

 

[covenantee]

Why aren't you in Israel?

Because antichrists hate Christians.

Didn't you know that?

 

[Jack]

Because antichrists hate Christians.

Didn't you know that?

You hate antichrists. Totally unChristian! Christians don't hate people.