I do not relate to Christ as my King
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Brakelite
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@KUWN Your Husband has a name and title.
“7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. ”
Revelation 19:7-8 KJV
... and He's coming for you to take you home to meet His Father...
“And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. ”
Revelation 19:16 KJV
“7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. ”
Revelation 19:7-8 KJV
“And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. ”
Revelation 19:16 KJV
Here's an analogy for you. I call Donald Trump Mr. President. Melania Trump does not call Donald Trump Mr. President. She calls him Don.@KUWN Your Husband has a name and title.
“7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. ”
Revelation 19:7-8 KJV
... and He's coming for you to take you home to meet His Father...
“And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. ”
Revelation 19:16 KJV
MA2444
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Let's approach this from a different direction. All that aside...are you a King according to scripture? You yourself.
MA2444
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Bruce-Leiter
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So, you don't think that the Old Testament applies to you? Only to the Jews? Well, here are two New Testament quotes from Paul's first letter to Timothy as well as one from Revelation about Jesus:
1Ti_1:17 To the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
1Ti_6:15 which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
Rev 19:11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself.
Rev 19:13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses.
Rev 19:15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
Bruce-Leiter
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Do you want to follow Jesus' commandment?
Jhn_13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
Jhn_15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Who gives commandments? Kings, the same as the Triune God gave them on Mount Sinai, 10 of them. Do you want to follow their principles? If so, then the commandments are for you too as a Christian, who wants to obey God's (including Jesus') authority over you. If not, seriously question yourself whether or not you're a genuine Christian, because the Holy Spirit influences us to submit to God's (Jesus') authority out of love for him.
Bruce-Leiter
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How about a scriptural anology, like Sara calling Abraham Lord and not just Abe?
1 Peter 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
1 Peter 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
Come to think of it Sara also obeyed Abraham when he requested that she call him brother also
Bruce-Leiter
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Yes, during my many, many times of reading through the whole Bible, I read that chapter in Genesis this morning! Abram shouldn't have lied and shouldn't have accepted Sarai's suggestion to take Hagar as his wife either, thus wavering in his faith in God's promise. Eve did the same to Adam by taking the lead in leading Adam into rebellion against God. Very sad!
Revelation 19
11 I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. ‘He will rule them with an iron sceptre.’ He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
king of kings and lord of lords.
Wick Stick
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King is not a particularly prestigious title in the Bible. A King is most often the ruler over a single city, occasionally a territory - and always a vassal to someone with the title Prince or Captain or Emperor (these are much more prestigious titles).
Jesus is a king over the city of Jerusalem, by virtue of being a direct descendant of David.
However, the title the Bible most often gives Him is Lord - Lord of all creation. That's a title above king or captain.
You asked for a verse... here's 118 verses in the New Testament with the exact phrase "Lord Jesus." There are another 20-30 verses that explicitly title Him as Lord without the exact phrase.
I have no doubt about the number of times the phrase Lord Jesus is used. I only said that I don't relate to Jesus as King. I am not sure what you are trying to say about Lord Jesus when the discussion is about King. We are Christ's bride.
Like I have said, Jesus is a King. The issue is Jesus isn't a King to me, he is my spouse.
- 1 Timothy 6:15: "He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords."
- Revelation 17:14: "The Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings."
- Revelation 19:16: "On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: King of kings and Lord of lords."
Wick Stick
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I wonder if my husband was a believer in Christ, If I could either call him both my husband or my brother and still be telling the truth.
Shows,
Gen 20:2 And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, She is my sister: and Abimelech king of Gerar sent, and took Sarah.
Gen 20:11 And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake.
Gen 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
I love it that God was the one informed him of the whole truth because Abraham feared for his life
Gen 20:3 But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife.
Abraham did not tell the whole truth because he feared for his life, but Abimelech got the fear of God put into him concerning touching anything that belongs to his prophet
Gen 20:7 Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt surely die, thou, and all that are thine.
He reproved king Abimelech for Abraham
Psalm 105:14 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes;
Psal 105:15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Isaac did it too
Gen 26:9 And Abimelech called Isaac, and said, Behold, of a surety she is thy wife: and how saidst thou, She is my sister? And Isaac said unto him, Because I said, Lest I die for her.
Gen 26:10 And Abimelech said, What is this thou hast done unto us? one of the people might lightly have lien with thy wife, and thou shouldest have brought guiltiness upon us.
Gen 26:11 And Abimelech charged all his people, saying, He that toucheth this man or his wife shall surely be put to death.
Rahab lied about the messengers she hid
Yes, Christ is King of kings, and Lord of lords. I have stated this a hundred times.
Bruce-Leiter
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In rare instances, higher laws than the one against lying take precedence, the laws to love God above all and our neighbor as ourselves. To save lives and to stand up for God, sometimes it's necessary to lie, but again that time is often in war or other times. Rahab's lie would qualify. I'm not so sure about Abram's and Isaac's lies.
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