THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

[Jay Ross]

No, it has been around 6000 years since the time of Adam. The 1000 years of Revelation 20 completes 7000 years total, and then a new heaven and new earth will be created that will last for eternity.

Douggg, how long was the beast and the False Prophet imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit?

When does Isaiah 24:21-22 take place? How long are the many days that the judged entities in the Isaiah 23:21-22 verse will face before they are punished?

 

[Douggg]

Douggg, how long was the beast and the False Prophet imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit?

When does Isaiah 24:21-22 take place? How long are the many days that the judged entities in the Isaiah 23:21-22 verse will face before they are punished?

The beast-king and the false prophet are end times persons. They have never been in the bottomless pit prison.

Isaiah 24:21-22 takes place at the time of the great white throne judgment.

The "host (group) of high ones that are on high" in verse 21 is referring to certain of the angels who rebelled with Satan, who committed sex acts with human women back around the time of the flood (Genesis 6:2-4), perverting the human race, resulting in the giants on the earth. And as a result, the earth became filled with violence and evil (Genesis 6:5, Genesis 6:11-12).

Those angels have been imprisoned, Jude 1:6, awaiting the great day of judgment.

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

....and will stand before the great white throne judgment - and on that great day will be cast into the lake of fire. As creation will be cleansed of all the evil ones. And creation start afresh in Revelation 21.

 

[Jay Ross]

The beast-king and the false prophet are end times persons.

Douggg you are following the false understanding of the reformation fathers who made the Beasts, the Little Horn and the Antichrist into having human form so that they could demonise the RCC.

I on the other hand believe that the Beasts, the Little Horn and the Antichrist are wicked fallen Heavenly Host who will be judged in around 20 years' time when the Kings of the Earth will be gathered at Armageddon to be judged as Isaiah told us in Isaiah 24:21-22.

They have never been in the bottomless pit prison.

Your statement is true at this present time, but in around 20 years from now they will be imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit.

This is what scripture states: -

Re the Beast: -

Revelation 17:7-8: - 7 But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery/hidden truth of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition/destruction. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is/shall be present.

Re the Beast from the earth, i.e. The Little Horn/False Prophet

Revelation 13:11-12: - 11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Now when the False Prophet comes up out of the earth, from where does he come?

Now Douggg, are Revelation 17 and Revelation 13 presented linearly, or have they been presented in the order in which they have been seen by/presented to John.

Isaiah 24:21-22 takes place at the time of the great white throne judgment.

Now Douggg if Isaiah 24:21-22 takes place at the time of the Great White Throne Judgement, then the heavenly hosts of Satan, the Beast and the Little Horn/False Prophet, cannot be judged a second time because they have already been judged at the time the kings of the earth are judged at Armageddon and just before the GWTR judgement they all have been dispatched into the Lake of Fire which is their punishment.

As such the quoted statement of yours is not scripturally based but is based upon your own private understanding.

Douggg, because of your private understandings many on this forum have not accepted what you post.

Goodbye Douggg.

 

[Douggg]

Douggg you are following the false understanding of the reformation fathers who made the Beasts, the Little Horn and the Antichrist into having human form so that they could demonise the RCC.

No, I do not agree with the reformers' claim that the pope/papacy is the little horn, nor do I agree with the reformers' claim that the pope/papacy is the Antichrist.

The beast-king (the Antichrist) and the false prophet are end times persons of the parable of the fig tree generation that will witness Jesus's return.

Now when the False Prophet comes up out of the earth, from where does he come?

The false prophet will emerge from Israel. Out of the sea, on the other hand, means out of the nations (other than Israel).

Now Douggg if Isaiah 24:21-22 takes place at the time of the Great White Throne Judgement, then the heavenly hosts of Satan, the Beast and the Little Horn/False Prophet, cannot be judged a second time because they have already been judged at the time the kings of the earth are judged at Armageddon and just before the GWTR judgement they all have been dispatched into the Lake of Fire which is their punishment.

Jay, there is judgment in terms of physical death, as in Revelation 19:21. And there is judgment in terms of eternal death, as in Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:10, Revelation 20:15 .

Douggg, because of your private understandings many on this forum have not accepted what you post.

Jay, I think you need to connect Isaiah 24:21-22 with Jude 1:6 and the great white throne judgment cleansing of creation.

 

[Davy]

Davy, that the false prophet speaks like a dragon (i.e. Satan) is that the false prophet will rounding up groups of people in Judea and bringing them to the temple mount. Where those people will be forced to to worship the statue image of the beast king or die. That statue image will be indwelt by Satan.

In Ezekiel 28:16 , Satan is characterized as dealing in violence. When he is cast down to earth in Revelation 12:7-9, he will have great wrath, and will be a terror, dealing in violence. That trait will be exhibited also by the false prophet, who will have people put to death for refusing to worship the statue image. It is going to be a horrible time, that God's anger at Satan, the beast-king, and the false prophet will be fully justified, when Jesus comes with the wrath of the Lamb, to take vengeance on behalf of the martyred great tribulation saints.

God is good, wonderful to those who love Him. To His enemies though, He is a consuming fire.

Believe God, Love God, Trust God.

Not what is written. Satan is NOT... coming as his old self working violence, chaos, etc. He is coming for one's SOUL using DECEPTION. You've obviously been listening to too many Hal Lindsay type preachers who think the final Antichrist is going do mass murdering and such, which is not what is written.

I've already shown the Daniel 8 example of how the coming Antichrist will work. He will destroy using PEACE, and craft will prosper in his hand. That... is what the miracles will be about, used to deceived the whole world into worshiping him in place of God.

I am so surprised that so many brethren just believe whatever comes out of the mouth of many of today's preachers who only follow their organizational system doctrines instead of what God's written Word actually teaches. When Apostle Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2 showed the coming Antichrist ("man of sin") will exalt himself in the "temple of God" (a stone temple in Jerusalem), showing himself that he is... GOD, and over all that is called GOD, or that is even worshiped, then that means his working is going to be DECEPTION, and not all out violence.

 

[Douggg]

Not what is written. Satan is NOT... coming as his old self working violence, chaos, etc. He is coming for one's SOUL using DECEPTION. You've obviously been listening to too many Hal Lindsay type preachers who think the final Antichrist is going do mass murdering and such, which is not what is written.

The Antichrist is not going to do mass murdering, you say ?

Davy, what does this say.... ?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

[Davy]

The Antichrist is not going to do mass murdering, you say ?

Davy, what does this say.... ?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

That verse covers the WHOLE HISTORY of Christian saints that were martyred. Only some will be executed for the future "great tribulation", otherwise there would be no Church still existing alive on earth for Christ to rapture! Think!

You haven't been watching all the conspiracy theory nuts have you, like stocked up coffins, and the Georgia Guidestones that have been partially destroyed that declares world population will be down to 500,000 people?

The Antichrist will persecute only those who know who he really is, and that is Christ's elect, but still not all of Christ's elect, or the rapture couldn't happen. Christ's elect will be the only group that will refuse... to bow to the coming Antichrist as God, The Christ. All others will be deceived by his claim as God and the power of miracles he has power to do, and that is the the whole world except Christ's elect...

Rev 13:4-8
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
KJV

The only ones with their names written in the book of life from the foundation of the world are Christ's faithful elect.