A proof that the 1000 year reign of Christ with His people is in the heavenly throne room, not the earth

[Spiritual Israelite]

The Kingdom of God is overall and the kingdom of heaven is a subset. The kingdom of heaven is only mentioned in Matthew who deals with the Kingship of Christ. It refers to the Lord`s rule (from heaven) through israel over the nations. (Dan. 2: 44 the God of heaven will set up a kingdom - shortened to the kingdom of heaven)

Stop making things up that are not taught in scripture and accept what Jesus taught. He spoke of the kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven interchangeably and synonymously, as we can see here in this passage:

Matthew 19:23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Are you going to try to tell me that Jesus was saying two different things here in this passage rather than reiterating in verse 24 what He had said in verse 23? Is there some difference between it being difficult for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven and it being difficult to for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God? Or, are the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God the same kingdom that is difficult for someone who is rich to enter? Clearly, the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God are just two different ways of referring to the same kingdom.

 

[WPM]

Stop making things up that are not taught in scripture and accept what Jesus taught. He spoke of the kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven interchangeably and synonymously, as we can see here in this passage:

Matthew 19:23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Are you going to try to tell me that Jesus was saying two different things here in this passage rather than reiterating in verse 24 what He had said in verse 23? Is there some difference between it being difficult for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven and it being difficult to for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God? Or, are the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God the same kingdom that is difficult for someone who is rich to enter? Clearly, the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God are just two different ways of referring to the same kingdom.

Exactly! Hello! That is what false teaching produces.

 

[Marilyn C]

Stop making things up that are not taught in scripture and accept what Jesus taught. He spoke of the kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven interchangeably and synonymously, as we can see here in this passage:

Matthew 19:23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Are you going to try to tell me that Jesus was saying two different things here in this passage rather than reiterating in verse 24 what He had said in verse 23? Is there some difference between it being difficult for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven and it being difficult to for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God? Or, are the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God the same kingdom that is difficult for someone who is rich to enter? Clearly, the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God are just two different ways of referring to the same kingdom.

God is not sloppy with His words.

The Kingdom of Heaven phrase and meaning comes from Daniel 2: 44 `the God of heaven will set up a kingdom...` Jesus shortened it to the `kingdom of heaven.` We see the fulfillment in Dan. 7: 27 `Then the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people, the saints of the most High.` This reveals that God will rule through Israel over the nations. It is a term specifically for them as promised.

The Kingdom of God which is overall. We see that when Jesus has put down all rule, authority and power and delivers the kingdom to God. (1 Cor. 15: 24)

So Jesus is pointing out in that passage Matt. 19: 23 concerning Israel`s rule (kingdom rule of heaven through Israel) and also God`s rule overall for the nations. (Kingdom of God) As I said the kingdom of heaven (rule through Israel) is a subset of the greater Kingdom of God.

 

[Marilyn C]

Well, that is because you seem to say things that contradict previous things you said. I can't tell who exactly you think is destroyed with the "sudden destruction" that Paul references in 1 Thess 5:2-3. You seemed to say two different things about that. Can you clarify it?

You also make things convoluted by trying to claim that the day of the Lord, the day of God and the day of Christ are different things (they are not) and that the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God are different (they are not) and so on. It's just difficult to keep track of all that. My view is much simpler than yours, overall.


I appreciate that.


Well, unlike passages like 1 Thess 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12, Joel 2 is not literal and straightforward text. It is mostly symbolic and covers the entire last days (New Testament) time period rather than just the future day of the Lord. One army is the Lord's army (Joel 2:11) and then northern army (Joel 2:20) that is kept at bay from the Lord's people would be Satan's army. Like in the book of Revelation, the battle between the Lord and His army and Satan and his army is described symbolically in Joel 2.

Joel 2 covers a lot of ground in relation to time. It refers to different things that occur during the last days, which refer to the New Testament time period. If you look at Joel 2:28-32 and then look at Acts 2:16-21, you should see that Peter quotes the Joel 2 passage there and relates it to the last days and what was happening on the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was being poured out. So, the last days had begun already before that and they continue up until the future second coming of Christ (the day of the Lord), according to Peter in 2 Peter 3:3-4. In Acts 2:16-21, which, again, references Joel 2:28-32, Peter described the last days as the time period during which the Holy Spirit woud be poured out and people would call on the name of the Lord to be saved up until the day of the Lord.

So, part of Joel 2 relates to things that applied to the first coming of Christ and the time following that in Israel and part relates to things related to the future day of the Lord, which is a global event, as 2 Peter 3:10-12 makes clear.

The Lord's army that comes on the day of the Lord is a reference to His angels and Jesus Himself will defeat Satan's army of fallen angels and human followers. Jesus will be coming with His angels when He takes vengeance on His enemies on the day of the Lord, according to Paul in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10.

If you expect me to explain every detail in Joel 2, that's too much to expect as it is a difficult passage to interpret in detail because of it mostly not being straightforward literal text and it containing a lot of symbolism.

But, I've given a general overview of the chapter while showing NT scripture which quotes part of Joel 2 to help establish the context of it.

The thing you need to understand is that the New Testament sheds light on the Old Testament prophecies. We can trust that Paul and Peter knew what they were talking about when they wrote about the day of the Lord and they understood the OT prophecies like Joel 2 better than we do. So, if Paul and Peter indicate that the day of the Lord is an actual 24 hour day during which, at some point, the Lord will come unexpectedly as a thief in the night on the day of the Lord to suddenly (quickly) destroy all of His enemies on the earth, then we should accept that and not try to change what they taught as if we somehow understand the OT prophecies better than they did.

Paul and Peter's descriptions of the day of the Lord are very straightforward, unlike Joel 2. So, they made it easier on us to understand what the day of the Lord is about and what will happen on that day, which was not made clear in Joel 2 because of the symbolism and overall lack of straightforward text found there (not saying nothing in it is literal, but most is symbolic).

God`s army in Joel means He is bringing that northern army against Israel to make Israel call out to Him. (Joel 2: 12 - 17 Ez. 38: 4)

Let`s look at context which you agreed.

Joel 2 speaks of the northern army that God is bringing against Israel. God deals with the army by driving them away. (Joel 2: 20)

Then in Joel 3 we read of God bringing the world`s armies down to the valley of Jehoshaphat and dealing with them there by the blast of His breath. (2 Thess. 2: 8)

Notice also in Rev. 6: 16 that everyone calls for the rocks and mountains to hide them. They are not crying out that it is `Peace and Safety` which you say they do.

Clearly there is a difference between the Day of the Lord time period (beginning with Joel 2 & 1 Thess. 5: 3) and the Day of the Lord specific when the Lord returns in power and glory to bring vengeance on the world`s armies. (Joel 3 & Rev. 6: 11 - 17)

 

[Truth7t7]

Why? because there are still more rulers to put down by the Lord. In the millennium more people are born and some are rebellious. They will be dealt with by the Lord. (Zech. 14: 11 - 19)

The millennium is the time God promised Israel that they would rule the nations of the world. It is the fulfillment of God`s final Feast for Israel - the Feast of Tabernacles. (God with them by His Holy Spirit) (Zech. 14: 16 Micah 4: 1 - 3)

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kngdom Don't Be Deceived

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

 

[Truth7t7]

Why? because there are still more rulers to put down by the Lord. In the millennium more people are born and some are rebellious. They will be dealt with by the Lord. (Zech. 14: 11 - 19)

The millennium is the time God promised Israel that they would rule the nations of the world. It is the fulfillment of God`s final Feast for Israel - the Feast of Tabernacles. (God with them by His Holy Spirit) (Zech. 14: 16 Micah 4: 1 - 3)

Your in denial and didn't respond to the claims found in 1 Corinthians Chapter 15, run and diversion is your non-response

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

God is not sloppy with His words.

The Kingdom of Heaven phrase and meaning comes from Daniel 2: 44 `the God of heaven will set up a kingdom...` Jesus shortened it to the `kingdom of heaven.` We see the fulfillment in Dan. 7: 27 `Then the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people, the saints of the most High.` This reveals that God will rule through Israel over the nations. It is a term specifically for them as promised.

The Kingdom of God which is overall. We see that when Jesus has put down all rule, authority and power and delivers the kingdom to God. (1 Cor. 15: 24)

So Jesus is pointing out in that passage Matt. 19: 23 concerning Israel`s rule (kingdom rule of heaven through Israel) and also God`s rule overall for the nations. (Kingdom of God) As I said the kingdom of heaven (rule through Israel) is a subset of the greater Kingdom of God.

Matthew 19:23 Matthew 19:23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Notice here what Jesus said at the beginning of verse 24. He said "AGAIN I tell you...". Do you now what the word "again" means? It means He was repeating what He had just said because He repeated Himself sometimes when He was saying something particularly important that He wanted to make sure was not missed. So, Him saying something AGAIN in verse 24 that He had just said in verse 23 means that what He said in verse 24 is NO DIFFERENT than what He said in verse 23. Which means that the kingdom of heaven is the SAME kingdom as the kingdom of God.

Please stop denying what Jesus so very clearly indicated, which is that the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God are the same. That He referred to the kingdom in two different ways does not indicate that He was sloppy with His words. That's complete nonsense. Think about it. Where is God's throne? In heaven. Actually, His throne is heaven (Isaiah 66:1). So, where does His kingdom originate from then? Heaven. Therefore, the kingdom of God is the kingdom of heaven because God's throne is heaven. This is elementary stuff I'm telling you here. It concerns me that you can't even understand something as simple as this.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

God`s army in Joel means He is bringing that northern army against Israel to make Israel call out to Him. (Joel 2: 12 - 17 Ez. 38: 4)

Let`s look at context which you agreed.

Joel 2 speaks of the northern army that God is bringing against Israel. God deals with the army by driving them away. (Joel 2: 20)

Then in Joel 3 we read of God bringing the world`s armies down to the valley of Jehoshaphat and dealing with them there by the blast of His breath. (2 Thess. 2: 8)

Notice also in Rev. 6: 16 that everyone calls for the rocks and mountains to hide them. They are not crying out that it is `Peace and Safety` which you say they do.

Clearly there is a difference between the Day of the Lord time period (beginning with Joel 2 & 1 Thess. 5: 3) and the Day of the Lord specific when the Lord returns in power and glory to bring vengeance on the world`s armies. (Joel 3 & Rev. 6: 11 - 17)

There is no "Day of the Lord time period". You try to include the days that lead up to the day of the Lord as part of the day of the Lord. You think 1 Thessalonians 5:3 is referring to a time period? How does "SUDDEN destruction" refer to a time period? Please explain that.

 

[Truth7t7]

Clearly there is a difference between the Day of the Lord time period (beginning with Joel 2 & 1 Thess. 5: 3) and the Day of the Lord specific when the Lord returns in power and glory to bring vengeance on the world`s armies. (Joel 3 & Rev. 6: 11 - 17)

"False"

There is "One" future "Day Of The Lord" and it takes place at the Lord's second coming in fire and final judgement (The End)

 

[Marilyn C]

Zechariah Chapter 14 Is The Eternal Kngdom Don't Be Deceived

People will be punished if they do not go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zech. 14: 16 - 19)

`And this shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.` (Zech. 14: 19)

That is not the eternal kingdom.

 

[Truth7t7]

People will be punished if they do not go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zech. 14: 16 - 19)

`And this shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.` (Zech. 14: 19)

That is not the eternal kingdom.

Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?​

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

 

[Marilyn C]

Your in denial and didn't respond to the claims found in 1 Corinthians Chapter 15, run and diversion is your non-response

I did reply but you don`t understand that the Lord will over time put down all rule, authority and power.

 

[Marilyn C]

I told you to stop making things up and you didn't listen. Nowhere does scripture teach what you are saying. Read the passage again, only carefully this time.

Matthew 19:23 Matthew 19:23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Notice here what Jesus said at the beginning of verse 24. He said "AGAIN I tell you...". Do you now what the word "again" means? It means He was repeating what He had just said because He repeated Himself sometimes when He was saying something particularly important that He wanted to make sure was not missed. So, Him saying something AGAIN in verse 24 that He had just said in verse 23 means that what He said in verse 24 is NO DIFFERENT than what He said in verse 23. Which means that the kingdom of heaven is the SAME kingdom as the kingdom of God.

Please stop denying what Jesus so very clearly indicated, which is that the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God are the same. That He referred to the kingdom in two different ways does not indicate that He was sloppy with His words. That's complete nonsense. Think about it. Where is God's throne? In heaven. Actually, His throne is heaven (Isaiah 66:1). So, where does His kingdom originate from then? Heaven. Therefore, the kingdom of God is the kingdom of heaven because God's throne is heaven. This is elementary stuff I'm telling you here. It concerns me that you can't even understand something as simple as this.

I referred you to the prophet Daniel who told us where that phrase came from and why. It is for Israel whom God will rule through.

The word kingdom means authority, rule and that is what God will do through Israel over the nations as promised.

Please refrain from accusing otherwise we can`t continue.

 

[Marilyn C]

There is no "Day of the Lord time period". You try to include the days that lead up to the day of the Lord as part of the day of the Lord. You think 1 Thessalonians 5:3 is referring to a time period? How does "SUDDEN destruction" refer to a time period? Please explain that.

The `sudden destruction` after the nations are saying `Peace and Safety` is when God brings the Russian Federation and other nations down to the mountains of Israel and pours out judgment upon them. (Ez. 38)

`And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down upon him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.` (Ez. 38: 22)

 

[Truth7t7]

I did reply but you don`t understand that the Lord will over time put down all rule, authority and power.

"False Claim"

1 Corinthians Chapter 15 Teaches that Jesus puts down all rule and authority after all enemies are defeated

You have been shown multiple times that at the future resurrection at the Lords return the resurrection takes place in the twinkling of an eye, as the last enemy death is destroyed

You deny this biblical fact as if it doesn't exist, as you run off without answering "The Last Enemy Death Is Destroyed" in the twinkling of an eye, run in distraction is the common practice in your response without answering the 1 Corinthians chapter 15 claim

I'm not asking about your millennial kingdom belief, "answer the question if the last enemy death is destroyed at the resurrection" as seen below (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)?

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 52-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

 

[Truth7t7]

How does "SUDDEN destruction" refer to a time period? Please explain that.

"It Doesn't"

Scripture clearly states such, like a woman with birth pains will the second coming be ushered in, and sudden destruction is immediate

The poster knows exactly what our claims are, reply is off topic "Non-Response" in diversion

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I referred you to the prophet Daniel who told us where that phrase came from and why. It is for Israel whom God will rule through.

The word kingdom means authority, rule and that is what God will do through Israel over the nations as promised.

Please refrain from accusing otherwise we can`t continue.

Why not just accept what Jesus indicated instead of going to Daniel and other verses to try to find a way to deny what Jesus explicitly indicated? Jesus spoke of the kingdom of heaven and kingdom of God in the exact same context and made no differentiation between the two, so there is no reason for doing that whatsoever. They are the same kingdom. God's throne is heaven (Isaiah 66:1). Therefore, the kingdom of God is where? Heaven. Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is the kingdom of God. Same thing.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The `sudden destrudction` after the nations are saying `Peace and Safety` is when God brings the Russian Federation and other nations down to the mountains of Israel and pours out judgment upon them. (Ez. 38)

`And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down upon him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.` (Ez. 38: 22)

Where do you see even a hint of such a thing described in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3? Why would Paul warn people who were not living in Israel to be prepared for coming destruction that was going to come upon people in Israel? That makes no sense whatsoever. The context of that passage is in relation to sudden destruction coming upon those in spiritual darkness in Thessalonica and throughout the world. The sudden destruction that comes on the day of the Lord when it arrives unexpectedly as a thief in the night is clearly global destruction, as Peter made very clear.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.

Here, Peter is talking about the same event as 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and, like Paul, he warns believers everywhere to be spiritually prepared for it. The "sudden destruction" from which "they shall not escape" that Paul wrote about will come about by way of fire on the entire earth, according to Peter. Do you not trust that Peter knew what he was talking about in relation to the day of the Lord? Do you think he understood the OT prophecies better than we do? I am sure he did. And, yet, he did not teach what you teach about the day of the Lord and neither did Paul. You should let the NT authors help you understand the OT prophecies and to shed light on the OT prophecies instead of thinking you know the OT better than they did while trying to make the OT shed light on the NT instead as if the understanding of the NT authors can't be trusted.