Proof Christ will not leave the Father's side for 1000 year separation to reign on this earth

[Scott Downey]

So you believe Jesus will be on the earth 1000 years, separated from the Father's right hand?
But He must sit there at the right hand of the FATHER till all the enemies are defeated.
The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. That only happens at the beginning of the age of the resurrection and the new earth, after it has been tossed into the lake of fire at the great white throne judgement.

Luke 20
34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Verses to contemplate, and I got another thought provoker.

Hebrews 1:13
But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?

AMP
Jesus said, “I am; and you will [all] see the Son of Man seated [with authority] at the right hand of Power (the Father), and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

Mark 12:35-37
35 Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David? 36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
37 Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

And the common people heard Him gladly.

1 Cor 15
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, (Him and us joined as one reign in heaven) afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming (those alive caught up in the air to be with Him). 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Scott Downey]

This is another one

If Christ were on earth he would not be a priest.
And God swore an oath saying HE was a priest forever.
So how then could Christ separate Himself from God the Father and depart to rule on earth for 1000 years, with the Father still reigning in heaven, see this is not scripturally supported.
To be the mediator of the New Covenant, He must reign and sit at the Father's side.

Hebrews 8
Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a Minister of the [a]sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected, and not man.

3 For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this One also have something to offer.

4 For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law; 5 who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” 6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

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Hebrews 7

Need for a New Priesthood​

11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For [d]He testifies:

“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing [e]perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Greatness of the New Priest​

20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him:

“The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
‘You are a priest [f]forever
According to the order of Melchizedek’ ”),
22 by so much more Jesus has become a [g]surety of a better covenant.

23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. 24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save [h]to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, [i]harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.

 

[Scott Downey]

Now in regard to these; the Last enemy to be destroyed is death, and that happens at the end of this world
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Hebrews 1:13
But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?

Mark 12:35-37
35 Then Jesus answered and said, while He taught in the temple, “How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David? 36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
37 Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

And the common people heard Him gladly.

Luke 22
68 And if I [a]also ask you, you will by no means answer [b]Me or let Me go. 69 Hereafter the Son of Man will sit on the right hand of the power of God.”

70 Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?”

So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.”

Mark 14:62
Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”
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When Jesus returns, there is no 1000 years of separation or He would not be our great High priest,
What happens is the New Jerusalem, the Holy city descends down from God out of heaven onto the new earth, and the tabernacle of God is with men. Father, Spirit and Son dwell together with man on the new earth God creates at the return of Christ on the Day of the Lord.
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Rev 21

1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.

2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.

4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7 He who overcomes [d]shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, [e]unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

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The second death has no power over the saved people of God, they will reign with Christ forever and inherit all things.

 

[Scott Downey]

Revelation 20, right here Death and Hades are destroyed.
Christ must reign at the Father's right hand until all the enemies are destroyed, the last one to be destroyed is death
The next major event is the new earth and heaven. And the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell among them

The Great White Throne Judgment​

11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [c]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second [d]death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[ewq1938]

Christ must reign at the Father's right hand until all the enemies are destroyed

Then who does Jesus kill since Amill teaches Jesus will kill all the unsaved after leaving his father's side during the second coming?

BTW, the bible does not state, "Christ must reign at the Father's right hand until all the enemies are destroyed". Amill does not believe this.

 

[Scott Downey]

Then who does Jesus kill since Amill teaches Jesus will kill all the unsaved after leaving his father's side during the second coming?

BTW, the bible does not state, "Christ must reign at the Father's right hand until all the enemies are destroyed". Amill does not believe this.

I guess I don't care what AMIL believes.

Jesus when He returns scripture says this
Mark 14:61-63 New King James Version

61 But He kept silent and answered nothing.

Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?”

62 Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

63 Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “What further need do we have of witnesses?

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To me this is saying Christ is still seated at the right hand of the Father when He returns.
No separation from the Father, Christ never leaves the Father's side.
Do you know of any verse that teaches a separation of Christ and the Father after He ascended back to the Father after His resurrection?

In my thinking the clouds of heaven are that as Christ returns, all heaven is with Him, including the Father, the holy angels, the departed saints of God. Christ legitimizes His true position to the unbelieving Jews by what He says, God the Father and Christ are one.
As you see, that got them very upset.

 

[Scott Downey]

And the Father will not dwell in the tabernacle on the old earth, only on the new earth does God do that.
God remains in heaven until the new earth and the descending of the Holy city occurs.
That is the real presence of God dwelling 'directly' among His people only occurs on the new earth
That Prescence will be a greater reality than God dwelling inside of us spiritually today.

No separation of the Father and the Son.

 

[Scott Downey]

Jesus is NOT of this world. God sent Him into the world, He completed the work, it is finished, then He went back to the Father.

John 17
Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He [a]should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together [b]with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Jesus Prays for His Disciples​

6 “I have [c]manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me.

9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep[d] through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them [e]in the world, I kept them in [f]Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is [g]lost except the son of [h]perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify[i] them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

 

[Scott Downey]

Mark 16

Christ Ascends to God’s Right Hand​

19 So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. 20 And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen.

Romans 10:6
But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ down from above)

John 3:13
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

John 20:17
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’ ”

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By the way, John 20:17 proves Christ had not yet ascended back into heaven to God's Prescence , as in after His death on the cross. Refer back to the argument over where Paradise was at that time. When Christ told the thief on the cross with Him, that day they would be in paradise.

 

[ewq1938]

To me this is saying Christ is still seated at the right hand of the Father when He returns.
No separation from the Father, Christ never leaves the Father's side.
Do you know of any verse that teaches a separation of Christ and the Father after He ascended back to the Father after His resurrection?

The second coming is a second separation just like the first coming.

 

[Scott Downey]

The second coming is a second separation just like the first coming.

KJ21
Hereafter shall the Son of Man sit on the right hand of the power of God.”
ASV
But from henceforth shall the Son of man be seated at the right hand of the power of God.
AMP
But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.”
AMPC
But hereafter (from this time on), the Son of Man shall be seated at the right hand of the power of God.
EXB
But from now on, the Son of Man will sit at the right hand of the powerful God [Ps. 110:1].”


He comes sitting at the right hand of the Power. That is what scripture says.
And we should not think in human terms of what this means when Christ returns as if the Godhead is like us as individual persons.
Christ was only separated from Glory of the Father when born as a flesh and blood baby, he humbled himself at that time so was diminished voluntarily becoming a servant, giving His life as a ransom for many. But when Christ comes again a second time, it is in the Glory they had together as ONE with the Father and with a glorified body. And now, O Father, glorify Me together [b]with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. They are inseparable, the Father and the Son

Psalm 110:1
The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

John 14:9
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip?
He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Mark 14:62
Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

Matthew 26:64
Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Matthew 22:44
‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”

Psalm 110
The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

2 The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.
Rule in the midst of Your enemies!

3 Your people shall be volunteers
In the day of Your power;
In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning,
You have the dew of Your youth.

4 The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”

5 The Lord is at Your right hand;
He shall [a]execute kings in the day of His wrath.

6 He shall judge among the nations,
He shall fill the places with dead bodies,
He shall [b]execute the heads of many countries.

7 He shall drink of the brook by the wayside;
Therefore He shall lift up the head.

 

[ewq1938]

KJ21
Hereafter shall the Son of Man sit on the right hand of the power of God.”

Heb_1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mar 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Luk 20:42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Luk 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Psa 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psa 110:2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
Psa 110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
Psa 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
Psa 110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Psa 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
Psa 110:7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

So when does Christ leave the right hand of God in heaven and come to the Earth to defeat his enemies and rule in the midst of those enemies? The second coming of course. We also see this depicted in Revelation 19-20.

 

[Scott Downey]

Heb_1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mar 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Luk 20:42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Luk 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Psa 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psa 110:2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
Psa 110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
Psa 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
Psa 110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Psa 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
Psa 110:7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

So when does Christ leave the right hand of God in heaven and come to the Earth to defeat his enemies and rule in the midst of those enemies? The second coming of course. We also see this depicted in Revelation 19-20.

He sits there till the enemies are destroyed, and the last enemy is death
So when is death finally destroyed?
When it is cast into the lake of fire on the judgment Day
Then we get the new earth and new heaven.

God the Father is with Christ. Christ is at the right hand of power, God destroys all His enemies. Then there is peace. No more suffering, dying, struggle against sin.

You do know millennial reign teachers teach that people will still DIE during that 1000 years of time. Meaning the last enemy death is still not destroyed. And Christ is on the earth, and the Father is on His heavenly throne, and they are seperated.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I guess I don't care what AMIL believes.

Jesus when He returns scripture says this
Mark 14:61-63 New King James Version

61 But He kept silent and answered nothing.

Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?”

62 Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

63 Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “What further need do we have of witnesses?

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To me this is saying Christ is still seated at the right hand of the Father when He returns.
No separation from the Father, Christ never leaves the Father's side.
Do you know of any verse that teaches a separation of Christ and the Father after He ascended back to the Father after His resurrection?

In my thinking the clouds of heaven are that as Christ returns, all heaven is with Him, including the Father, the holy angels, the departed saints of God. Christ legitimizes His true position to the unbelieving Jews by what He says, God the Father and Christ are one.
As you see, that got them very upset.

I agree with this. Jesus being at the right hand of the Father is an expression of His position in relation to the Father. He is not below the Father, He is on equal standing with the Father. As He said, all power in heaven and earth was given to Him (Matthew 28:18). His standing as being equal with the Father will not change when He comes again, so there's no reason to think that He will not still be at the right hand of the Father after He descends from heaven.

It does not say when He comes again in the future, He is no longer at the right hand of the Father. It does not say that He leaves the Father behind in heaven. As you said, when He comes all heaven will be with Him, including the Father. I think most Amills would agree with this. After He has come and destroyed all of His enemies, THEN He hands the kingdom over to the Father. So, we don't need to let some Premill tell us what we Amills believe. He doesn't speak for us.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The second coming is a second separation just like the first coming.

Nowhere does it say that Jesus separates from the Father at His second coming. At His first coming He had to separate from the Father in the sense that the Father could not die for our sins since it is not possible for the Father to die. That separation caused Jesus, as man, to have anxiety about it and that's why He asked the Father "Why have you forsaken me?". He deeply felt that separation at that moment. But, at Christ's second coming there is no reason like that for Him to separate from the Father.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Heb_1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mar 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Luk 20:42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Luk 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Psa 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psa 110:2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
Psa 110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
Psa 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
Psa 110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Psa 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
Psa 110:7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

So when does Christ leave the right hand of God in heaven and come to the Earth to defeat his enemies and rule in the midst of those enemies? The second coming of course. We also see this depicted in Revelation 19-20.

Christ's enemies don't become His footstool until they've all been defeated and the last enemy to be defeated is death (1 Cor 15:26). So, that means He reigns at the right hand of the Father until death is defeated at which point all of His enemies, including death, will be made His footstool. You have Him no longer reigning at the right hand of the Father even before the last enemy, death, is defeated, which contradicts 1 Corinthians 15:25-26 and Revelation 20:14.

1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

Revelation 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Jesus must reign at the right hand of the Father until death is destroyed by being cast into the lake of fire. At that point He will hand over His kingdom to the Father and then "the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father" (Matthew 13:43).

 

[Davidpt]

Nowhere does it say that Jesus separates from the Father at His second coming. At His first coming He had to separate from the Father in the sense that the Father could not die for our sins since it is not possible for the Father to die. That separation caused Jesus, as man, to have anxiety about it and that's why He asked the Father "Why have you forsaken me?". He deeply felt that separation at that moment. But, at Christ's second coming there is no reason like that for Him to separate from the Father.

Does this mean you think that when Jesus returns the Father literally comes with Him?

On a different note. Since when does sitting on the right hand of power demand location? Jesus can only sit on the right hand of power while He is bodily in heaven, but can't still be sitting on the right hand of power once He bodily returns to the earth? Meaning prior to 1 Corinthians 15:24 being fulfilled, since I'm assuming we all at least agree once that passage is fulfilled He is no longer sitting on the right hand of power.

In my view He can be sitting in His own throne of glory upon the earth and still be sitting on the right hand of power at the same time. After all, at this point 1 Corinthians 15:24 has not been fulfilled yet, no matter how one wants to look at it.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Does this mean you think that when Jesus returns the Father literally comes with Him?

What do you mean by that? God the Father is a Spirit (John 4:24), so you should not think of Him as a physical being. God the Father is everywhere at all times, so it's not a matter of the Father coming with Him. He's already here. He's also in heaven. He's everywhere. He does not have to travel to go from place to place like a created being does. He is an infinite, all powerful being who exists outside of the realm of space and time that He created. He is everywhere at all times.

Psalm 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. 9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.

Jeremiah 23:23 Am I a God at hand, saith the Lord, and not a God afar off? 24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

On a different note. Since when does sitting on the right hand of power demand location?

It doesn't. That's the point I'm making. That's why Scott was saying that when Jesus comes from heaven He will still be at the right hand of the Father because that has nothing to do with His physical location. It has to do with His status as being equal with the Father since He was given all power in heaven and earth (Matt 28:18, Ephesians 1:19-23).

Jesus can only sit on the right hand of power while He is bodily in heaven, but can't still be sitting on the right hand of power once He bodily returns to the earth?

Why are you asking this? The point that Scott and I are making is that He will still be on the right hand of power even after leaving heaven. We are refuting what ewq1938 was claiming. He thinks that Jesus leaving heaven means He is no longer at the right hand of the Father, but that is not true.

Meaning prior to 1 Corinthians 15:24 being fulfilled, since I'm assuming we all at least agree once that passage is fulfilled He is no longer sitting on the right hand of power.

He will be sitting on the right hand of power right up until the last enemy, death, is defeated and it will be defeated when it is cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:14). Scripture indicates that He reigns at the right hand of power until all of His enemies are made His footstool which won't happen until the last enemy, death, is defeated and destroyed (1 Cor 15:25-26).

In my view He can be sitting in His own throne of glory upon the earth and still be sitting on the right hand of power at the same time. After all, at this point 1 Corinthians 15:24 has not been fulfilled yet, no matter how one wants to look at it.

Of course. That's exactly the point that Scott and I are making. Did you not catch that?

 

[ewq1938]

You do know millennial reign teachers teach that people will still DIE during that 1000 years of time. Meaning the last enemy death is still not destroyed. And Christ is on the earth, and the Father is on His heavenly throne, and they are seperated.

In Amill and Premill, death exists through the Mill, after the Mill, and exists after the GWTJ. Death is not destroyed until it is cast into the LOF, after the Mill is over so why bring up death existing during the Mill when it exists during that time in your own beliefs?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

In Amill and Premill, death exists through the Mill, after the Mill, and exists after the GWTJ. Death is not destroyed until it is cast into the LOF, after the Mill is over so why bring up death existing during the Mill when it exists during that time in your own beliefs?

Because Jesus said there will be no more death in the age to come and you have people dying in the age to come, which you think is the thousand years instead of eternity.

Luke 20:34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection.

This age is temporal and during this age people get married and they die. At the end of this age the resurrection of the dead will occur and those who are considered worthy of obtaining the age to come will not get married and "can no longer die", so that is referring to the eternal age to come when there will be no more death (Revelation 21:4).