the Catholic Church teaches. . .

[nedsk]

The Catholic bible is the "Douay Rheims" and its Satanic.

It teaches that "water washes away your sin" which denies that Jesus's Cross is the "blood atonement.




The Bible does not say...
So, we don't know.




"""""'issues that are not addressed by the bible'.""""""

Good luck selling that "cult of mary" nonsense.



Not True.

In fact its "Catholic Traditions" and "Church Fathers writings " that are considered the final authority.



Here is how the bible explains Mary's death.

"the body is dead because of sin"......so, that is Mary and everyone else, who was not created inside a Virgin's womb.
So, everyone is going to DIE.
You, Me, and Mary beat us to it.



John, Peter, and Paul, Luke, Matthew, were all alive decades after Mary died.

No Aposlte "venerated" Mary.
No Apostle who was alive from 20-50 yrs, prayed to Mary.. .. and Had this been in effect, then those Apostles would have written about it, and then its BIBLE.......but its not IN THE BIBLE.
So, this is "Catholic Religious Baloney", and you ate the sandwich, and so did billions of others.



Water Baptism, is not important regarding SALVATION..., as its not required FOR Salvation.. as it happens AFTER Salvation.

"water cults"".....' tell you that its a part of Salvation, and is Required.
Its not.

Paul's Gospel, has no water baptism in it.



Paul came LATER, and was given the GOSPEL by Jesus..., that we are to believe, and teach.

Notice the difference.. here....

"repent and be baptized".......vs.....>>"All who believe in Jesus, shall be saved".

Those are not the same,.....
Realize it and you have begun to free yourself from a WATER CULT.



God already decided.

= John 14:6....... and Water Baptism is not in that verse, and its not in Paul's Gospel. @Mink57 .. and any other "Gospel" is :

Galatians 1:8

You prefer the KJV?
The like figure even wherenunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of s good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

 

[nedsk]

My mom told me a long time that most of us will be surprised to see who's in heaven...

...IF *we* ever make it there, that is....

I'm.sure she correct but people.make. claims.

 

[nedsk]

Jesus claimed it, not I. After all Jesus is God. I said you have believe what Jesus said.

So Judas Iscariot is in heaven or no?

 

[Behold]

You prefer the KJV?
The like figure even wherenunto even baptism doth also now save us

Look at the verse.

Its says... "the LIKE FIGURE"

So, that is "figuative".......= Symbolic.

A.) a "figure" refers to something that represents something else, not literal

 

[Mink57]

The Catholic bible is the "Douay Rheims" and its Satanic.

Nope. Not only Douay Rheims, and definitely NOT Satanic.

Unless you have conclusive proof otherwise...

It teaches that "water washes away your sin" which denies that Jesus's Cross is the "blood atonement.

No, it doesn't. Your really need to research the Catholic Beliefs instead of reading/listening to anti-Catholic sites.

The Bible does not say...
So, we don't know.

You're RIGHT! But ...how can I explain this....

It's like, publishing a book on science and claiming that THIS book has ALL of science. No new discoveries can EVER been made. People...including myself...have religious "experiences" every day. So really...based on that alone, DID Jesus stop talking to us at Revelation?

"""""'issues that are not addressed by the bible'.""""""

Good luck selling that "cult of mary" nonsense.

HA! I think your "cult of mary" "NONSENSE has already been "sold" to 1.3 billion Catholics.

Hmmm...Maybe...just maybe, there's something TO their beliefs? After all, MANY people have prayed THROUGH Mary and have gotten the answers to their prayers. Do you really believe that if someone prays through Mary...to ask Jesus...to ask his Father to heal their son from cancer...and IF the son is cured...that it's somehow..."demonic"? Or coincidence?

Not True.

Yeah, it is.

In fact its "Catholic Traditions" and "Church Fathers writings " that are considered the final authority.

Wrong again. In "addition to" isn't the same thing as "instead of".

Here is how the bible explains Mary's death.

"the body is dead because of sin"......so, that is Mary and everyone else, who was not created inside a Virgin's womb.
So, everyone is going to DIE.
You, Me, and Mary beat us to it.

Like I said...the Bible makes no mention of Mary's death. Show me otherwise.

John, Peter, and Paul, Luke, Matthew, were all alive decades after Mary died.

Again, how do you know WHEN Mary supposedly died, since it's NOT IN THE BIBLE.

No Aposlte "venerated" Mary.

Obviously, John did. He took her into his home.

No Apostle who was alive from 20-50 yrs, prayed to Mary.. .. and Had this been in effect, then those Apostles would have written about it, and then its BIBLE.......but its not IN THE BIBLE.
So, this is "Catholic Religious Baloney", and you ate the sandwich, and so did billions of others.

Because Mary wasn't "dead" yet. Because of drawings in the catacombs, it's OBVOUS that very early Christians venerated Mary.

Water Baptism, is not important regarding SALVATION..., as its not required FOR Salvation.. as it happens AFTER Salvation.

Not what Jesus says...

"water cults"".....' tell you that its a part of Salvation, and is Required.
Its not.

Paul's Gospel, has no water baptism in it.

Paul didn't STOP water baptism. Read ACTS again....

Paul came LATER, and was given the GOSPEL by Jesus..., that we are to believe, and teach.

Notice the difference.. here....

"repent and be baptized".......vs.....>>"All who believe in Jesus, shall be saved".

Those are not the same,.....
Realize it and you have begun to free yourself from a WATER CULT.

It's not "water cult". It's going by what JESUS told us to do. "Go forth and BAPTIZE in the Name of the Father..."
why would Jesus tell us if it wasn't important?

God already decided.

= John 14:6....... and Water Baptism is not in that verse, and its not in Paul's Gospel. @Mink57 .. and any other "Gospel" is :

Galatians 1:8

I suggest you Google ALL about water Baptism in *your* Bible. You just might be surprised.

 

[Mink57]

So Judas Iscariot is in heaven or no?

If he asked for forgiveness before he died, he JUST might be!

 

[Mink57]

So, let look at some of "Mary's Lies".

I'll post 15 for you, as taught by the "cult of mary".

Here is what they teach that : Mary Said, and that that they believe.
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1. Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.​

For children: If you pray the Rosary, God will help you make good choices when you’re not sure what to do.

2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.​

For children: When you pray the Rosary, Mary promises to make an extra effort to protect you and send you special blessings.

3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell; it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.​

For children: When you pray the Rosary, it helps you to be good. If you struggle with a certain bad habit, like lying or hitting your siblings, praying the Rosary will help you overcome these habits. Praying the Rosary is like riding around in a tank! You’ll have super strong protection against the devil!

4. The Rosary will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire for eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.​

For children: Praying the Rosary will help you grow in holiness, because it helps you grow in the virtues like love, honesty, wisdom, faithfulness, and courage. Which virtues do you need to grow in? Pray the Rosary! Our Lady will help you!

5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary shall not perish.​

You won’t go to hell = if you pray the Rosary. That doesn’t mean you won’t go to purgatory.

For children: If you trust in Mary by praying the Rosary, she promises you won’t go to hell. (If you are not comfortable telling your child about hell yet, you can say something like “Mary promises to help you get to heaven if you pray the Rosary and trust in her.”)

6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its sacred mysteries, shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice; he shall not perish by an unprovided death. If he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God and become worthy of eternal life.​

For children: If you make a habit of praying the Rosary, Mary will wrap her mantle around you like a good mother! She will help you when you are sad or having a hard time. What kind of hard times are you having right now? Are you sad about a problem with a friend? Disappointed or angry about something? Mary will make sure it’s not too much for you to handle!

7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the sacraments of the Church.​

Tthis sacrament also absolves you of any unconfessed sins.

For children: If you make a habit of praying the Rosary, Mary will make sure a priest anoints you with special oil to help you if ever get really sick. This is called the Anointing of the Sick. This sacrament sends you special graces that help you endure your illness and even grow in holiness through it.

8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces. At the moment of death, they shall participate in the merits of the saints in paradise.​

For children: Mary promises that if you pray the Rosary faithfully, you will have the light of God shining upon you and you will have many rewards in heaven like the saints.

9. I shall deliver from Purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.​

Mary promises to “get us out” of purgatory quickly! She is our greatest Advocate.

For children: Mary promises that if you pray the Rosary, she will help you become pure and holy so that you go to heaven.

10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.​

Praying the Rosary merits us a higher place in Heaven because we will become more holy.

For children: If you pray the Rosary faithfully, you will sit very close to Jesus and his Mother in Heaven.

11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.​

Mary is our advocate and she mediates between her Son and us. She will ask Jesus for all that we ask, provided it’s good for our salvation and doesn’t violate God’s perfect will for us.

For children: When you pray the Rosary, you can ask Mary for what you need, and she will talk to her son about it. Jesus loves his mom so much that he pays attention to what she says!

12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.​

This means that when you tell others about the Rosary, including teaching your children to pray it, Mary will take special care to ensure you have what you need both spiritually and physically.

For children: When you share what you know about the Rosary with other people, Mary loves it! When you do this, she promises that you will have what you need to become more holy. She even promises that you will have enough food, clothing, and a home to live in.

13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death.​

Mary promises that if we encourage others to pray the Rosary, the angels in heaven will be interceding for us not only during our lives, but when we die.

For children: When you encourage other people to pray the Rosary, Mary promises that all the angels in heaven will be praying for you!

14. All who recite the Rosary are my sons and daughters, the brothers and sisters of Jesus Christ.​

When we recite the Rosary, we are the children of Mary, and Jesus is our BROTHER.... We are part of the Holy Family.

Children: When you pray the Rosary, Mary treats you like her very own child and Jesus becomes like your big brother. You are part of her own family!

15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.​

And you can PROVE these are lies.....HOW?????

 

[nedsk]

Look at the verse.

Its says... "the LIKE FIGURE"

So, that is "figuative".......= Symbolic.

A.) a "figure" refers to something that represents something else, not literal

Look at the verse.

Its says... "the LIKE FIGURE"

So, that is "figuative".......= Symbolic.

A.) a "figure" refers to something that represents something else, not literal

BAPTISM DOTH ALSO NOW SAVES US. Read the verse. It's hilarious how far people will go.

If he asked for forgiveness before he died, he JUST might be!

I agree if but the other poster said no one can take them from the fathers hand

 

[Dash RipRock]

So Judas Iscariot is in heaven or no?

No, he is not because he self murdered and Jesus said murderers go to hell.

Those that commit suicide go to hell because they are murderers who are guilty of murdering themselves.

They have no more right to murder themselves than they would if murdering someone else.

 

[Dash RipRock]

BAPTISM DOTH ALSO NOW SAVES US. Read the verse. It's hilarious how far people will go.

Some don't even bother getting born again, they just go jump in the lake and think they are saved.

 

[nedsk]

No, he is not because he self murdered and Jesus said murderers go to hell.

Those that commit suicide go to hell because they are murderers who are guilty of murdering themselves.

They have no more right to murder themselves than they would if murdering someone else.

But the other poster said no one can take them from the hand of the father.

 

[Mink57]

I'm.sure she correct but people.make. claims.

They do! I'm sorry...but as a Catholic I've been taught (with the Bible) NOT to judge.

Heck, I got out of Jury Duty because I KNEW that I'll probably never know the "truth, the WHOLE truth, and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH"

To me, that's for GOD to deal with. As for me, I'm just another peon who's trying to figure out the "truth"...who already admits that I'll probably never know it on this planet.

 

[nedsk]

Some don't even bother getting born again, they just go jump in the lake and think they are saved.

Who decides when they are saved? On what authority?

 

[Mink57]

No, he is not because he self murdered and Jesus said murderers go to hell.

Those that commit suicide go to hell because they are murderers who are guilty of murdering themselves.

They have no more right to murder themselves than they would if murdering someone else.

IF they don't ask for forgiveness!

I guess you KNOW the heart of God....

God is more forgiving than YOU know. God knows if the person had some kind of impediment that caused them to murder. Only HE knows our hearts!!

 

[nedsk]

They do! I'm sorry...but as a Catholic I've been taught (with the Bible) NOT to judge.

Heck, I got out of Jury Duty because I KNEW that I'll probably never know the "truth, the WHOLE truth, and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH"

To me, that's for GOD to deal with. As for me, I'm just another peon who's trying to figure out the "truth"...who already admits that I'll probably never know it on this planet.

Oh course you know the truth. Jesus is the Savior of the world. His word is truth

I've been on 5 juries. Some of those times I was with people who couldn't care less about the truth of the guilt or innocence of the accused they wanted to go home as soon as possible. I sought the truth to the best of my ability and those people weren't happy with me. Thank God someone was there at least seeking the truth.

 

[Rockerduck]

But the other poster said no one can take them from the hand of the father.

I said, Jesus said, ok, read yourself -John 10:28 -And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.

 

[Behold]

Nope. Not only Douay Rheims, and definitely NOT Satanic.

If you do a "bible search", you'll find that the Douay Rheims, is listed as the Catholic bible.
You dont read Latin, so, .....

And the Douay Rheims, is Satanic, becasue it denies that Jesus's Blood is the only rememedy, forgiveness for sin.

The Satanic Catholic bible teaches that Water, is that salvaiton.
Most Catholics will happily tell you that they were taught that "water washes away sin", and that is a Satanic Lie that is the "cult of Mary" teaching as found in their bible, the Douay Rheims... as "baptismal regeneration".

No, it doesn't. Your really need to research the Catholic Beliefs instead of reading/listening to anti-Catholic sites.

I dont use anti-catholic sites.
I use the council(s) of Trent, and Catholic Doctrine, and i use Catholic Sites., etc...as that is where you find the heresy.

DID Jesus stop talking to us at Revelation?

But is it written down ?

Its not.

HA! I think your "cult of mary" "NONSENSE has already been "sold" to 1.3 billion Catholics.

Absolutely.

And 500 yrs ago, the Catholic Cult would have burned me, and many other Members of this Forum.
They would have burned Billy Graham.....or any person who knows that Mary is just Mary, and Water is just water.
I teach God as 3><1 so, they would not have tied me to a stake and set me on fire, in that case.

Hmmm...Maybe...just maybe, there's something TO their beliefs? After all, MANY people have prayed THROUGH Mary

You can receive from a demon also.
Current Pagans in Europe, who Pray to Pan and other Pagan "deities', often get their requests, delievered.
If you want to make a deal with the devil, He's all in....
Do you want to be rich and famous? He's all in.

A Male Sorc, or a White Witch, can get this for you as well.

Also, on this very forum, and on one other Baptist Forum...I have a Prayer on the "Prayer Thread" for 2 Euro Pagans.. one is a Priest and His wife is similar.
"Steve and Jenny".
They can both tell you all about "receiving' through Prayer.. @Mink57, and they are not lying.

Like I said...the Bible makes no mention of Mary's death. Show me otherwise.

The bible does not need to state when Mary died, as it does not state when most of the Apostled died... or how..
So, as everyone dies., """as the wages of sin is death"""" and Adam passed this unto the entire human race., Mary also died.

Mary will get a new body in the Rapture., same as any sinner who was born again.
And so will her other Children, if they were born again.......and that is not by water.

Because Mary wasn't "dead" yet. Because of drawings in the catacombs, it's OBVOUS that very early Christians venerated Mary.

Confusing early Mary worship with Christianity, is not a good idea in '2025.

Paul didn't STOP water baptism. Read ACTS again....

The bible does not say that Paul stopped water Baptism.
He didnt.
The bible teaches that Salvaiton is "justification by faith in Christ".....without works or water.

= "Paul's Gospel".

It's not "water cult". It's going by what JESUS told us to do. "Go forth and BAPTIZE in the Name of the Father..."
why would Jesus tell us if it wasn't important?

See Paul for you answer., as He was Given the Gospel by Jesus., and Paul's Gospel has no water baptism in it.

 

[nedsk]

I said, Jesus said, ok, read yourself -John 10:28 -And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.

So Judas is in heaven right? I can rob banks and i shall never perish

 

[nedsk]

If you do a "bible search", you'll find that the Douay Rheims, is listed as the Catholic bible.
You dont read Latin, so, .....

And the Douay Rheims, is Satanic, becasue it denies that Jesus's Blood is the only rememedy, forgiveness for sin.

The Satanic Catholic bible teaches that Water, is that salvaiton.
Most Catholics will happily tell you that they were taught that "water washes away sin", and that is a Satanic Lie that is the "cult of Mary" teaching as found in their bible, the Douay Rheims... as "baptismal regeneration".



I dont use anti-catholic sites.
I use the council(s) of Trent, and Catholic Doctrine, and i use Catholic Sites., etc...as that is where you find the heresy.




But is it written down ?

Its not.



Absolutely.

And 500 yrs ago, the Catholic Cult would have burned me, and many other Members of this Forum.
They would have burned Billy Graham.....or any person who knows that Mary is just Mary, and Water is just water.
I teach God as 3><1 so, they would not have tied me to a stake and set me on fire, in that case.




You can receive from a demon also.
Current Pagans in Europe, who Pray to Pan and other Pagan "deities', often get their requests, delievered.
If you want to make a deal with the devil, He's all in....
Do you want to be rich and famous? He's all in.

A Male Sorc, or a White Witch, can get this for you as well.

Also, on this very forum, and on one other Baptist Forum...I have a Prayer on the "Prayer Thread" for 2 Euro Pagans.. one is a Priest and His wife is similar.
"Steve and Jenny".
They can both tell you all about "receiving' through Prayer.. @Mink57, and they are not lying.



The bible does not need to state when Mary died, as it does not state when most of the Apostled died... or how..
So, as everyone dies., """as the wages of sin is death"""" and Adam passed this unto the entire human race., Mary also died.

Mary will get a new body in the Rapture., same as any sinner who was born again.
And so will her other Children, if they were born again.......and that is not by water.



Confusing early Mary worship with Christianity, is not a good idea in '2025.



The bible does not say that Paul stopped water Baptism.
He didnt.
The bible teaches that Salvaiton is "justification by faith in Christ".....without works or water.

= "Paul's Gospel".



See Paul for you answer., as He was Given the Gospel by Jesus., and Paul's Gospel has no water baptism in it.

1 Peter does though. You can't just ignore the parts you don't like. Jesus says eat his flesh. You ignore that too

 

[Behold]

And you can PROVE these are lies.....HOW?????

Its proven to be lies, by having people like you defend it.

See, Catholics, pretend that "its not all about Mary", and they are lying.
So, when i post CATHOLC CULT "MARY Doctrine", that is their heart, then of course they will try to prove its its TRUE, because they adore Mary, obsessively.
This is not of God.
This is all "cult of Mary".

Notice @Mink57 .......... none of this that Mary (supposedly) Says, is found in a Bible, or in a Greek Text.

its ALL "Catholic FANTASY"....Its MARY FICTION......;presented as if its THE BIBLE,....

Its all a lie.