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Matthias

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I’ve used the New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology many times to document for my readers who the one God is according to scripture.

“1. The one God. (a) theos is the most frequent designation of God in the NT. Belief in the one, only, and unique God (Matt. 23:9; Rom. 3:30; 1 Cor. 8:4-6; Gal. 3:20; 1 Tim. 2:5; Jas. 2:19) is an established part of Christian tradition. Jesus himself made the fundamental confession of Jud. his own and expressly quoted the Shema (Deut. 6:4-5; see Mk. 12:29-30; cf. Matt. 22:37; Lk. 10:27). This guaranteed continuity between the old and new covenants. The God whom Christians worship is the God of the fathers (Acts 3:13; 5:30; 22:14), the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Acts 3:13; 7:32; cf. Matt. 22:32; Mk. 12:26; Lk. 20:37), the God of Israel (Matt. 15:31; Lk. 1:68; Acts 13:17), and the God of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 1:3; Eph. 1:3; 1 Pet. 1:13).”

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Abridged Edition, p. 244)

There is no God in Jewish monotheism besides this one.
 
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Why is that exactly ? In my way of thinking you are a Christian just as much as I am .
I've told him the very same thing. So has Johann. But Matt will goat you and fight it. Then he will say that you decided it... It's very sad.
 

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What I see as requirements to be a Christian .

That you believe on and accept Jesus as the Son of God as your savior , that He died for your sins and was raised to everlasting life .
And you will now follow Jesus and His examples set forth .

I meet all of those requirements.

You should be baptized and you should observe the Lords supper .

I have been and do.

Foot washing services are optional but don't knock it if you have not attended one .

I have, many times. It’s a good practice that I would commend to others.

I’m also anathematized (cursed) by the trinitarian creeds, as are all Jewish monotheists.
 
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I've told him the very same thing. So has Johann. But Matt will goat you and fight it. Then he will say that you decided it... It's very sad.
My decision on whether or not someone is a Christian will be based on what they say and do . I don't have the final decision that is for sure ! We have to work out our own salvation .
 
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This is a curious comment. No one who considers me Christian is a goat.
Bad word choice. sorry. But you do that! I don't know why. I consider you my brother. I've told you that. you keep trying to make me see how we aren't. I know we don't agree on some things. None are deal breakers in the blood for me, so far.
 

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Bad word choice. sorry. But you do that! I don't know why. I consider you my brother. I've told you that. you keep trying to make me see how we aren't. I know we don't agree on some things. None are deal breakers in the blood for me, so far.

We don’t believe in the same God.

If you don’t mind me saying so, you should spend more time listening to and learning from people like @marks.
 

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“1. The one God. (a) theos is the most frequent designation of God in the NT. Belief in the one, only, and unique God (Matt. 23:9; Rom. 3:30; 1 Cor. 8:4-6; Gal. 3:20; 1 Tim. 2:5; Jas. 2:19) is an established part of Christian tradition. Jesus himself made the fundamental confession of Jud. his own and expressly quoted the Shema (Deut. 6:4-5; see Mk. 12:29-30; cf. Matt. 22:37; Lk. 10:27). This guaranteed continuity between the old and new covenants. The God whom Christians worship is the God of the fathers (Acts 3:13; 5:30; 22:14), the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Acts 3:13; 7:32; cf. Matt. 22:32; Mk. 12:26; Lk. 20:37), the God of Israel (Matt. 15:31; Lk. 1:68; Acts 13:17), and the God of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 1:3; Eph. 1:3; 1 Pet. 1:13).”

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Abridged Edition, p. 244)

There is no God in Jewish monotheism besides this one.

“They” didn’t resurrect Jesus. (A post-biblical, non-Jewish, interpretation of Jewish scripture)

”We” didn’t resurrect Jesus. (A post-biblical, non- Jewish, interpretation of Jewish scripture)

”I” - one person, the one God and Father of Jesus, Yahweh, resurrected Jesus. (A Biblical, Jewish, interpretation of Jewish scripture)
 

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Did the Father dictate every word spoken by Jesus?​


John 14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

Should we conclude from this that every word spoken by Jesus was directly from the Father?


Jesus had physical needs just like the rest of us. For example, when he said “excuse me” to those around him to go relieve himself, were those words directly from the Father? Of course not…Jesus was not a mechanical robot through whom the Father spoke. He was a human being like us, and in many ways he spoke like us.

So how do we decide when it was Jesus speaking and when it was the Father speaking directly through him? Who among us is qualified to decide…where do we draw the line between the two?

The point we are trying to make is that the Father lived in Jesus and that He was doing his work through Jesus—whether or not He gave him specific words to say. Jesus was the Father's agent and instrument of expression.

John 5:19 “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

What Jesus did—whether in the realm of the supernatural or the realm of the natural—was not necessarily what the Father specifically commanded him to do or showed him. When Jesus performed miracles, often it was the simply his Father doing His work through him. If Jesus was simply willing to heal the sick or cast out a demon using his Father’s power and authority, he could do so.

Luke 5: 12 While Jesus was in one of the towns, a man came along who was covered with leprosy. When he saw Jesus, he fell with his face to the ground and begged him, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”

(Vere\s)13 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!” And immediately the leprosy left him.

In the same way, disciples, the elect. the saints do not necessarily need a specific word or leading from the Spirit of God before speaking or ministering in the supernatural—like sharing the gospel or healing the sick, if gifted. Since we have already been given a measure of supernatural power and authority to cast out all demons and to cure diseases (Luke 9:1-2; 10:9), we can do so if we are willing. Since we are authorized to preach the gospel, we can do so wherever and whenever we are willing—in accordance with the Lord’s command in the Word: “heal the sick who are there and tell them, ‘the kingdom of God has come near to you‘” (Luke 10:9).

..........this subject is usually glossed over by many
 

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Did the Father dictate every word spoken by Jesus?​


John 14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

Should we conclude from this that every word spoken by Jesus was directly from the Father?


Jesus had physical needs just like the rest of us. For example, when he said “excuse me” to those around him to go relieve himself, were those words directly from the Father? Of course not…Jesus was not a mechanical robot through whom the Father spoke. He was a human being like us, and in many ways he spoke like us.

So how do we decide when it was Jesus speaking and when it was the Father speaking directly through him? Who among us is qualified to decide…where do we draw the line between the two?

The point we are trying to make is that the Father lived in Jesus and that He was doing his work through Jesus—whether or not He gave him specific words to say. Jesus was the Father's agent and instrument of expression.

John 5:19 “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

What Jesus did—whether in the realm of the supernatural or the realm of the natural—was not necessarily what the Father specifically commanded him to do or showed him. When Jesus performed miracles, often it was the simply his Father doing His work through him. If Jesus was simply willing to heal the sick or cast out a demon using his Father’s power and authority, he could do so.

Luke 5: 12 While Jesus was in one of the towns, a man came along who was covered with leprosy. When he saw Jesus, he fell with his face to the ground and begged him, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”

(Vere\s)13 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!” And immediately the leprosy left him.

In the same way, disciples, the elect. the saints do not necessarily need a specific word or leading from the Spirit of God before speaking or ministering in the supernatural—like sharing the gospel or healing the sick, if gifted. Since we have already been given a measure of supernatural power and authority to cast out all demons and to cure diseases (Luke 9:1-2; 10:9), we can do so if we are willing. Since we are authorized to preach the gospel, we can do so wherever and whenever we are willing—in accordance with the Lord’s command in the Word: “heal the sick who are there and tell them, ‘the kingdom of God has come near to you‘” (Luke 10:9).

..........this subject is usually glossed over by many

Who do you say bodily resurrected Jesus to life when he was dead?
 

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“1. The one God. (a) theos is the most frequent designation of God in the NT. Belief in the one, only, and unique God (Matt. 23:9; Rom. 3:30; 1 Cor. 8:4-6; Gal. 3:20; 1 Tim. 2:5; Jas. 2:19) is an established part of Christian tradition. Jesus himself made the fundamental confession of Jud. his own and expressly quoted the Shema (Deut. 6:4-5; see Mk. 12:29-30; cf. Matt. 22:37; Lk. 10:27). This guaranteed continuity between the old and new covenants. The God whom Christians worship is the God of the fathers (Acts 3:13; 5:30; 22:14), the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Acts 3:13; 7:32; cf. Matt. 22:32; Mk. 12:26; Lk. 20:37), the God of Israel (Matt. 15:31; Lk. 1:68; Acts 13:17), and the God of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 1:3; Eph. 1:3; 1 Pet. 1:13).”

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Abridged Edition, p. 244)

There is no God in Jewish monotheism besides this one.

This isn’t the Triune God.
 

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In the same way, disciples, the elect. the saints do not necessarily need a specific word or leading from the Spirit of God before speaking or ministering in the supernatural—like sharing the gospel or healing the sick, if gifted. Since we have already been given a measure of supernatural power and authority to cast out all demons and to cure diseases (Luke 9:1-2; 10:9), we can do so if we are willing.
I agree , we should work for God in all boldness .
Since we are authorized to preach the gospel, we can do so wherever and whenever we are willing—in accordance with the Lord’s command in the Word: “heal the sick who are there and tell them, ‘the kingdom of God has come near to you‘” (Luke 10:9).
We should always be ready to heed the Holy Spirit if He offers any guidance on the " wherever or whenever " .
I am pretty sure you know this though anyway , it just came to my mind about this verse below .

Acts16:6
6Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
 
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“Jesus answered them, ‘Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.’”

(John 2:19, NASB)
There’s no question that Jesus spoke the words, but that’s not the question.

Who’s words are they? Who’s words was Jesus speaking?

“The person who does not love me does not obey me. The word which you hear isn’t mine, but the Father’s who sent me.”

(John 14:24, WEB)

Why does it matter? The dead don’t bodily resurrect themselves to life.

The God and Father of Jesus raised him from the dead.

Not only by the Father, but also the Son, and the Holy Spirit:

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I (the Son) will raise it up" (Jn. 2:19)

"[...] the Father, Who raised Him from the dead [...]" (Gal. 1:1)

"But if the Spirit of Him (God) Who raised up Jesus from the dead [...]" (Rom. 8:11)
 
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Not only by the Father. Only God gives and takes away life (Job. 1:21, Deut. 32:39;Ac. 17:24), and God is one and triune:

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I (the Son) will raise it up" (Jn. 10:18)

"[...] the Father, Who raised Him from the dead [...]" (Gal. 1:1)

"But if the Spirit of Him Who raised up Jesus from the dead [...]" (Rom. 8:11)

That interpretation isn’t compatible with Jewish monotheism.

The Messiah’s God alone raised the dead Messiah to life.

The Spirit of him who raised up Jesus from the dead is the Father’s own Spirit.
 
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