Help with John 12:32

[Fred J]

The bible does not teach that Christ died for everybody in the whole world but for His sheep:

That is when one read scripture out of context and shortsightedly testify one's own or denomination version.

John 1:
29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of GOD, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Indeed Jesus died for everybody, it is just that who choose to believe and who choose not to believe.

John 16:
8. And when He come, He will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement:
9. Of sin, because they believe not on Me;

They are no longer accounted for sin based on violating the moral law of GOD.

But rather of sin, they believe not on Jesus Christ who have already taken those sin away.

Ephesians 2:
19. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of GOD;
20. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone;

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[David Lamb]

That is when one read scripture out of context and shortsightedly testify one's own or denomination version.

John 1:
29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of GOD, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Indeed Jesus died for everybody, it is just that who choose to believe and who choose not to believe.

John 16:
8. And when He come, He will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement:
9. Of sin, because they believe not on Me;

They are no longer accounted for sin based on violating the moral law of GOD.

But rather of sin, they believe not on Jesus Christ who have already taken those sin away.

Ephesians 2:
19. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of GOD;
20. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone;

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

So do you believe that not all those for whom Christ died will actually be saved? Yet in a prophecy about Jesus Christ, we read in Isaiah:

“Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand. He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities.” (Isa 53:10-11 NKJV)

How could He be satisfied, if just one for whom He had given His life ended up unsaved?

We are told several times that the reason Jesus came to earth was to save sinners, not just to make salvation a possibility:

“This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.” (1Ti 1:15 NKJV)

“"And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."” (Mt 1:21 NKJV)

 

[Fred J]

So do you believe that not all those for whom Christ died will actually be saved?

The scripture do say, not all shall become saved, but nevertheless all are equally welcomed by the Gospel to be saved.

The point is, GOD so loved the world, and the Son takes away the sin of the world, not of some individual's only.

Those unsaved are due to, instead of coming into the Light, they rather loved darkness and remain.

The parable is about a man who makes a banquet and invites his reputable neighbors and friends.

But none turned up and some made excuses that they had some personal matters to attend to.

Therefore the man told his servants to go to every street corner cum alley and invite every bunch of non reputable nobodies.

He made sure that his house was filled and packed, that none of the earlier invited guests will be able to get in.

Now, equally the first invitation was to all whom he knew, and then only second he gave out to those he knew not.

Who is to be blamed when one is not saved, or one is saved but not ready and left behind, or in the end one's rejected as workers of iniquity/lawlessness?

How could He be satisfied, if just one for whom He had given His life ended up unsaved?

Indeed, because in some of the parables he gave, speaks about also the lost, and due to this at the end He cried.

He even prayed to the FATHER about Judas Iscariot, where He tried to keep the 12 saved, but sadly 1 had to be lost.

If it did not matter to Jesus about Judas' lost of his own doing, He wouldn't have prayed to the FATHER.

We are told several times that the reason Jesus came to earth was to save sinners, not just to make salvation a possibility:

Salvation a possibility to the whole world, but there's a protocol to believe, follow, be saved and stay safe in the race until our time is up.

“This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.” (1Ti 1:15 NKJV)

Paul was a violent persecutor of the church, but even a man like him can also be saved and finished the race.

We've been discipled that, For what we seem impossible but for GOD all things are possible.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Fred J]

If by Calvinists you mean those who, like me, believe in the Doctrines of Grace, I don't think it is right to link Calvinism to "the Mary Obsessed, The Book of Mormon obsessed, the JWs, the Mary Baker Eddy disciples... the Gnostics..... The Scientologists, the French Philosophers......The Buddha". Calvinists fully believe that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, and that nobody comes to the Father except through Him.

We've been disciple in All Scripture = Holy Bible, especially the New Testament. (2Timothy3:16&17)

Therefore why these denominational legitimate claims, when they're shortsighted man made divisions and traditions, Paul strongly opposed to?

When he says, why are there some follow me, or some Peter, or some Apollos, and there are division in the church?

When Christ alone is the center and Chief Cornerstone above all.

Since their testimonies in whole have not found room in one's heart, hence result to all these immature proceedings.

Even though they're not with us, but their words are near to us, and we've no excuse for the immature back and forth.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Origen]

Will all repent in this life then ?

What do you mean, considering we commit sin daily, and thus repentance isn't a "one and done"?

 

[Carl Emerson]

What do you mean, considering we commit sin daily, and thus repentance isn't a "one and done"?

I mean do all humans repent before the end of this life ?

 

[Origen]

I mean do all humans repent before the end of this life ?

Again, you need to rephrase your question for clarity, and first consider that repentance isn't a "one and done".

 

[Carl Emerson]

Again, you need to rephrase your question for clarity, and first consider that repentance isn't a "one and done".

Correct it is an attitude.

Do all humans repent before the end of this life?

 

[Origen]

Correct it is an attitude.

Do all humans repent before the end of this life?

I actually said that repentance isn't a "one and done". And, you're not understanding how you need to clarify your question, so I'll help you. First, give your understanding of repentance.