Babylon

[Earburner]

Rev. 12(7) And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Your concept is all in the future after Christ's first appearance in the flesh. You are not showing when or how the 7 heads came to be before Christ appeared in mortal flesh. You are neglecting Dan. 7:1-7.
In all of your post #599, I don't see anything that describes the mystery of the woman and the seven headed beast with ten horns that carries her

 

[ewq1938]

Wrong! Read it from the KJV.
First you have to understand who/what the "another beast" that has 2 horns is. It is the USA.

You were wrong to claim the image of the beast gives out the mark because it doesn't, now you are also wrong on identifying the false prophet. The FP is one person, not a nation.

 

[Davy]

I would agree with you 100%, but there is the gnawing dilemma of "Mystery, Babylon the Great" being "carried" by the beast with 7 Heads having 10 horns, and was no "rider" of those 7 heads, as many church doctrines want to claim. Rev. 17:7

So then, let's look at those 7 heads in which M,BTG [Jerusalem which now is] did "SIT upon". Rev. 17:3,7,9.
Let's not forget that the 1st head of that 7 headed 10 Horn Beast was king Belshazzar's Babylon. It was the first kingdom to carry "that great city" Jerusalem.
Thus we begin counting the "7 heads" in Daniel 7:1-7
BABYLON-1 HEAD
MEDIO-PERSIA- 1 HEAD
GRECIAN EMPIRE-4 HEADS
ROMAN EMPIRE-1 HEAD
Total= 7 heads [figurative "mountains"]

Maybe today WE ALL can see who "the 8th head" is, that is "carrying" her now. Rev. 17:11.
Knowing that the 8th head IS OF the 7, it is safe to conclude that the USA, who is "another [additional] beast", is of itself that 8th head.
Rev. 17
[11] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition [destruction].

FUNNY STUFF!

In Ezekiel 16, GOD Himself called JERUSALEM a HARLOT, because of falling away from Him into IDOL WORSHIP. That is what the JEWS did back in OLD JERUSALEM'S HISTORY.

And that figures into WHY... JERUSALEM TODAY AT THE END OF THIS WORLD WILL ONCE AGAIN BE KNOWN AS THE BABYLON HARLOT, because of the FALSE-MESSIAH today's unbelieving JEWS will RECEIVE THERE IN TODAY'S JERUSALEM in place of Jesus Christ!

That... is what is actually written in God's Word.

Like Jesus said to those false Jews who love their father, the devil...

John 5:39-43
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me.
40 And ye will not come to Me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
KJV

 

[TribulationSigns]

Your concept is all in the future of Christ's first appearance in the flesh. You are not showing when or how the 7 heads came to be before Christ appeared in mortal flesh. You are neglecting Dan. 7:1-7.
In all of your post #599, I don't see anything that describes the mystery of the woman and the seven headed beast with ten horns that carries her

No wonder it is MYSTERY to you because you do not have the spirit to understand who the woman, beast, heads, ten horns, etc. represent.

Revelation 2:16-17

• "Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
• He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

As God warned the messengers of those churches, so God warns the messengers of today's churches. But they (to a large degree) are not hearing Him because "truth" is a mystery to them.

Babylon in Revelation is noted by God as a symbol or representation of the one great city called Jerusalem, the church as it has fallen into captivity because she has been deceived and is deluded that she is serving God. Just as the congregation of Israel was. Her true composition is a secret/mystery to most in her "because" they are unfaithful people who are under a strong delusion because they refuse to receive the love of God's truth. Just like many here who say, "No, the church can't be Babylon because it is God's people." ...just like Israel said!! Or as God also illustrated many times.

Lamentations 4:12-13

• "The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem.
• For the sins of her prophets, and the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her."

It's always for the same reason. God's people were overcome by the enemy because of her own sins. The moniker Babylon is to represent captivity. Even as Israel went into captivity in Babylon because of her sins. The mystery of Babylon is seen in the imagery of Revelation chapter 17 where we see that superficially (on the outside) she "appears" good, clean, valuable, precious, the righteous congregation of the Lord. But it is further revealed that within the golden cup that she offers, is hypocrisy, filth, uncleanness, and abominations to God. This is how she deceives by sight, rather than the evidence of her works. A tree is known by its fruits, not its appearance as a tree. This whore appears as clothed in Royalty (see the appearance of the Lord's priests in the Old Testament), but her appearance hides her abominations. That is the secret or mystery, and also why (without the grace of God) many professing Christians mistake her (deceived by her) to be the beautiful, royal, kingly, house of God. She is contemptuously mimicking (Jeremiah 52:19) the Lord's house.

Revelation 17:4-5

• "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
• And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

The Holy Spirit reveals to God's true people the mystery of just who she really is! Why she is called Babylon? Who is the beast that carries her? And What are the abominations that she carries within her precious looking/appearing cup?

Revelation 17:7

• "And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns."

The messenger of God reveals to His servants the secret of who she is and who the beast is. Thus we need not marvel that God does not reveal to those who are NOT His servants, who she really is.

Satan was bound with a chain and restrained in the church after Christ's crucifixion. But the mystery is that there are STILL workers of iniquity that secretly dwell in the corporate church. But they have been restrained from getting big or strong enough to overcome the Saints for the last 2000 years so that the nations/gentiles could be loosed from being deceived. Even as among the twelve apostles, there was still the mystery of a traitor "secretly" dwelling among the eleven elect of the group. Judas was waiting until his appointed time to reveal himself and cause Christ's death. The others didn't know of his treachery until it was revealed to them later. See? Likewise, when you ask, when is the mystery revealed, the answer is that it is revealed in God's own appointed time (as the scripture I'll quote below says unambiguously) after He finished sealing all of His Elect through the testimony of Two Witnesses FIRST! Revealed as God predetermined it to be, and according to His own purpose and will, even as it was kept secret about Judas until the other disciples needed to know. Same thing with the New Testament Congrgation. The iniquity of Satan is restrained in the church by God according to His work on the cross, but only until the thousand years are finished and all the children of Israel to be sealed, are sealed.

2nd Thessalonians 2:6-7

• "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
• For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."

Letteth means restraineth. The mystery is how there has always been iniquity in the church (see the 7 churches of Asia) as there have always been those who were rebellious there, but God has been withholding and retraining them there by His Spirit so that He could build His church. That was the real purpose of Satan being bound! Selah! It was so God could call his election from the deceived nations of the world. It was "for this reason" Satan was bound and iniquity restrained!

Revelation 20:3

• "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

And Revelation 20 explains that after the millennial reign of Christ's kingdom on earth, that is to say, after all the election of Israel that God intends to seal has been sealed (Revelation11), then Satan is once again loosed. Because his reason for being bound has been accomplished. At this time God will stop withholding Satan's power of iniquity, loosing it to bring a strong delusion in the church as judgment for their refusing to receive truth. Even as MANY here won't TODAY than ever! Then God will reveal this mystery to His people who shall "SEE" the revelation of the Wicked through men (like Judas) and FLEE out of this spiritual Babylon to the mountains, wherein dwelleth their God. There they watch and prophesy this "once great city" fall and burn, never to be inhabited by God's true people and commerce again!

2nd Thessalonians 2:6-11

1. "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
3. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
4. Even him [Man of Sin] whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
5. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
6. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

When that great spiritual city Babylon falls, then shall God's elect mourn for her for a short season before the Lord returns on the clouds of Glory, and His people shall be changed, and shall forever be with Him as the books are opened and the wicked shall be judged.

People who do not understand the Mystery of Babylon often look to cities like Rome, Baghdad, New York, or even Jerusalem as potential candidates for its identity. They may insist that the "beast" represents a supernatural being, a banking system, political nations, or even seven historic empires. This perspective arises because they deny that there is anything wrong within God's New Testament congregation and disregard the idea of being judged. They have not learned from the lessons of Israel in the Old Testament! Therefore, the truth about God's Church as Babylon is a mystery to them!

 

[Earburner]

No wonder it is MYSTERY to you because you do not have the spirit to understand who the woman, beast, heads, ten horns, etc. represent.

Revelation 2:16-17

• "Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
• He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

As God warned the messengers of those churches, so God warns the messengers of today's churches. But they (to a large degree) are not hearing Him because "truth" is a mystery to them.

Babylon in Revelation is noted by God as a symbol or representation of the one great city called Jerusalem, the church as it has fallen into captivity because she has been deceived and is deluded that she is serving God. Just as the congregation of Israel was. Her true composition is a secret/mystery to most in her "because" they are unfaithful people who are under a strong delusion because they refuse to receive the love of God's truth. Just like many here who say, "No, the church can't be Babylon because it is God's people." ...just like Israel said!! Or as God also illustrated many times.

Lamentations 4:12-13

• "The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem.
• For the sins of her prophets, and the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her."

It's always for the same reason. God's people were overcome by the enemy because of her own sins. The moniker Babylon is to represent captivity. Even as Israel went into captivity in Babylon because of her sins. The mystery of Babylon is seen in the imagery of Revelation chapter 17 where we see that superficially (on the outside) she "appears" good, clean, valuable, precious, the righteous congregation of the Lord. But it is further revealed that within the golden cup that she offers, is hypocrisy, filth, uncleanness, and abominations to God. This is how she deceives by sight, rather than the evidence of her works. A tree is known by its fruits, not its appearance as a tree. This whore appears as clothed in Royalty (see the appearance of the Lord's priests in the Old Testament), but her appearance hides her abominations. That is the secret or mystery, and also why (without the grace of God) many professing Christians mistake her (deceived by her) to be the beautiful, royal, kingly, house of God. She is contemptuously mimicking (Jeremiah 52:19) the Lord's house.

Revelation 17:4-5

• "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
• And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

The Holy Spirit reveals to God's true people the mystery of just who she really is! Why she is called Babylon? Who is the beast that carries her? And What are the abominations that she carries within her precious looking/appearing cup?

Revelation 17:7

• "And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns."

The messenger of God reveals to His servants the secret of who she is and who the beast is. Thus we need not marvel that God does not reveal to those who are NOT His servants, who she really is.

Satan was bound with a chain and restrained in the church after Christ's crucifixion. But the mystery is that there are STILL workers of iniquity that secretly dwell in the corporate church. But they have been restrained from getting big or strong enough to overcome the Saints for the last 2000 years so that the nations/gentiles could be loosed from being deceived. Even as among the twelve apostles, there was still the mystery of a traitor "secretly" dwelling among the eleven elect of the group. Judas was waiting until his appointed time to reveal himself and cause Christ's death. The others didn't know of his treachery until it was revealed to them later. See? Likewise, when you ask, when is the mystery revealed, the answer is that it is revealed in God's own appointed time (as the scripture I'll quote below says unambiguously) after He finished sealing all of His Elect through the testimony of Two Witnesses FIRST! Revealed as God predetermined it to be, and according to His own purpose and will, even as it was kept secret about Judas until the other disciples needed to know. Same thing with the New Testament Congrgation. The iniquity of Satan is restrained in the church by God according to His work on the cross, but only until the thousand years are finished and all the children of Israel to be sealed, are sealed.

2nd Thessalonians 2:6-7

• "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
• For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."

Letteth means restraineth. The mystery is how there has always been iniquity in the church (see the 7 churches of Asia) as there have always been those who were rebellious there, but God has been withholding and retraining them there by His Spirit so that He could build His church. That was the real purpose of Satan being bound! Selah! It was so God could call his election from the deceived nations of the world. It was "for this reason" Satan was bound and iniquity restrained!

Revelation 20:3

• "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

And Revelation 20 explains that after the millennial reign of Christ's kingdom on earth, that is to say, after all the election of Israel that God intends to seal has been sealed (Revelation11), then Satan is once again loosed. Because his reason for being bound has been accomplished. At this time God will stop withholding Satan's power of iniquity, loosing it to bring a strong delusion in the church as judgment for their refusing to receive truth. Even as MANY here won't TODAY than ever! Then God will reveal this mystery to His people who shall "SEE" the revelation of the Wicked through men (like Judas) and FLEE out of this spiritual Babylon to the mountains, wherein dwelleth their God. There they watch and prophesy this "once great city" fall and burn, never to be inhabited by God's true people and commerce again!

2nd Thessalonians 2:6-11

1. "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
3. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
4. Even him [Man of Sin] whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
5. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
6. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

When that great spiritual city Babylon falls, then shall God's elect mourn for her for a short season before the Lord returns on the clouds of Glory, and His people shall be changed, and shall forever be with Him as the books are opened and the wicked shall be judged.

People who do not understand the Mystery of Babylon often look to cities like Rome, Baghdad, New York, or even Jerusalem as potential candidates for its identity. They may insist that the "beast" represents a supernatural being, a banking system, political nations, or even seven historic empires. This perspective arises because they deny that there is anything wrong within God's New Testament congregation and disregard the idea of being judged. They have not learned from the lessons of Israel in the Old Testament! Therefore, the truth about God's Church as Babylon is a mystery to them!

Your concept is 100% fabrication, all because you neglect to understand when and how M,BTG the MOTHER of harlots [Jerusalem] was CARRIED by each of the seven heads of the ten Horned beast. In Dan. 7:1-7 you will discover who the seven heads of the ten horned beast were.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Your concept is 100% fabrication, all because you neglect to understand when and how M,BTG the MOTHER of harlots [Jerusalem] was CARRIED by each of the seven heads of the ten Horned beast. In Dan. 7:1-7 you will discover who the seven heads of the ten horned beast were.

It's not surprising if you don't understand the mystery or lack spiritual discernment. You can go ahead and have fun interpret God’s prophecies with National Geographic Magazine to satisfy your faulty doctrine.

70AD? Jerusalem? America? United Nations?

(chuckle)

 

[Earburner]

You were wrong to claim the image of the beast gives out the mark because it doesn't, now you are also wrong on identifying the false prophet. The FP is one person, not a nation.

Sorry that you can't read the KJV Bible as to which of the two entities is being focussed on in Rev. 13:11-16.

Color key:
Red- is the "another beast".
Blue- is the "image" of the 10H beast.
11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and [he] causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast [having 7 heads and10 horns], whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And [he] deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to THEM that dwell on the earth, that  THEY should MAKE an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power [political authority] to give [political] life unto the image of the beast, [so] that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Therefore, the "another beast" is the USA, and the "image" of the 10H Beast is the United Nations.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Sorry that you can't read the KJV Bible as to which of the two entities is being focussed on in Rev. 13:11-16.

Color key:
Red- is the "another beast".
Blue- is the "image" of the 10H beast.
11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and [he] causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And [he] deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to THEM that dwell on the earth, that  THEY should MAKE an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power [political authority] to give [political] life unto the image of the beast, [so] that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Therefore, the "another beast" is the USA, and the "image" of the 10H Beast is the United Nations.

Come on! Do you even understand God's definition of "the image" in Scripture?? Did God indicate anywhere in Scripture that the image refers to a political entity? Please show me the chapter and verse where God stated this.

Additionally, the power (or the image) mentioned in verse 15 does not relate to "political authority." You need to find God's interpretation first in Scripture. Not a private interpretation based on your assumations that the beast should be the USA and the image is the United Nations. You do not make any biblical sense at all!

 

[Earburner]

Come on! Do you even understand God's definition of "the image" in Scripture?? Did God indicate anywhere in Scripture that the image refers to a political entity? Please show me the chapter and verse where God stated this. How (and why) did the image receive a wound from a sword? When did that happen?

Additionally, the power (or the image) mentioned in verse 15 does not relate to "political authority." You need to find God's interpretation first in Scripture. Not a private interpretation based on your assumations that the beast should be the USA and the image is the United Nations. You do not make any biblical sense at all!

Unfortunately, you as well as most Christians have a "religious view" of understanding prophecy, of which is severely corrupted by church-ianity and it's many indoctrinated concepts.

In my understanding, I don't have to give long winded explanations of why I believe in the way that I do. I simply reveal the simple truth of what prophecy is pointing to.

 

[Rockerduck]

This is what God says about Babylon:

Isaiah 13:20-21 -
Babylon will never be inhabited again.
It will remain empty for generation after generation.
Nomads will refuse to camp there,
and shepherds will not bed down their sheep.
21 Desert animals will move into the ruined city,
and the houses will be haunted by howling creatures.
Owls will live among the ruins,
and wild goats will go there to dance.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Unfortunately, you as well as most Christians have a "religious view" of understanding prophecy, of which is severely corrupted by church-ianity and it's many indoctrinated concepts.

LOL!!!! My undersanding comes from God Himself by studying in His Word Only, not "churchianity."

In my understanding, I don't have to give long winded explanations of why I believe in the way that I do. I simply reveal the simple truth of what prophecy is pointing to.

Huh? A long-winded explanation? Did you really read my question carefully? I specifically asked you to show me a verse—chapter and verse—where God defines the image as a political entity. The truth is, you won't be able to find one, and it seems you're making excuses for not providing an answer. Nice try, yet your argument has remained refuted, because it is what it is - a private interpretation on your part!

 

[Earburner]

FUNNY STUFF!

In Ezekiel 16, GOD Himself called JERUSALEM a HARLOT, because of falling away from Him into IDOL WORSHIP. That is what the JEWS did back in OLD JERUSALEM'S HISTORY.

And that figures into WHY... JERUSALEM TODAY AT THE END OF THIS WORLD WILL ONCE AGAIN BE KNOWN AS THE BABYLON HARLOT, because of the FALSE-MESSIAH today's unbelieving JEWS will RECEIVE THERE IN TODAY'S JERUSALEM in place of Jesus Christ!

That... is what is actually written in God's Word.

Like Jesus said to those false Jews who love their father, the devil...

John 5:39-43
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me.
40 And ye will not come to Me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
KJV

Why is what I wrote "funny stuff", when I am agreeing with you that "Jerusalem which now is", is M,BTG the mother of harlots.

 

[Earburner]

LOL!!!! My undersanding comes from God Himself by studying in His Word Only, not "churchianity."



Huh? A long-winded explanation? Did you really read my question carefully? I specifically asked you to show me a verse—chapter and verse—where God defines the image as a political entity. The truth is, you won't be able to find one, and it seems you're making excuses for not providing an answer. Nice try, yet your argument has remained refuted, because it is what it is - a private interpretation on your part!

Your fabrications refuted nothing of what I pointed to as to what/who the scriptural image of the beast is. In fact, every other explanation, that is not scripture, is just more religious nonsense of explanation.

The truth is, God doesn't define anything of a description for us, as to what the image of the 10H Beast is.

However, God does explicitly tell us WHO it is that shall "make" the image of the beast, and
WHO it is that tells them to make the image of the beast. Rev. 13:11-16.
Anything more than that is pure fiction.

Now, since I have provided my answer, being the very scriptures I cited above, could you please cite the scriptures that tell you that the image of the beast is different than what God tells us it is in Rev. 13:11-16.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Your fabrications refuted nothing of what I pointed to as to what/who the scriptural image of the beast is. In fact, every other explanation, that is not scripture, is just more religious nonsense of explanation.

The truth is, God doesn't define anything of a description for us, as to what the image of the 10H Beast is.

Really? Guess you can't search for His interpreation in Scripture. Not surprised.

However, God does explicitly tell us WHO it is that shall "make" the image of the beast, and
WHO it is that tells them to make the image of the beast. Rev. 13:11-16.
Anything more than that is pure fiction.

Now, since I have provided my answer, being the very scriptures I cited above, could you please cite the scriptures that tell you that the image of the beast is different than what God tells us it is in Rev. 13:11-16.

Really? You said, "Therefore, the "another beast" is the USA, and the "image" of the 10H Beast is the United Nations."

Based on Scripture, did the Lord say that?! Nowhere. It was your private interpreation based on an assumption.

 

[Marilyn C]

This is what God says about Babylon:

Isaiah 13:20-21 -
Babylon will never be inhabited again.
It will remain empty for generation after generation.
Nomads will refuse to camp there,
and shepherds will not bed down their sheep.
21 Desert animals will move into the ruined city,
and the houses will be haunted by howling creatures.
Owls will live among the ruins,
and wild goats will go there to dance.

And this has not happened yet.

 

[Marilyn C]

Sorry that you can't read the KJV Bible as to which of the two entities is being focussed on in Rev. 13:11-16.



Therefore, the "another beast" is the USA, and the "image" of the 10H Beast is the United Nations.

That doesn`t make sense. The other beast, is a person. `He had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.` (Rev. 13: 11)

That `false Prophet` will have two offices - religious and Economic. He will look harmless, (lamb) but will speak with the authority of the dragon, Satan.

The image of the 10 horned beast is the A/C who has 10 kings join him in a Federation ruling the world.

 

[TribulationSigns]

That doesn`t make sense. The other beast, is a person. `He had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.` (Rev. 13: 11)

That `false Prophet` will have two offices - religious and Economic. He will look harmless, (lamb) but will speak with the authority of the dragon, Satan.

The image of the 10 horned beast is the A/C who has 10 kings join him in a Federation ruling the world.

Sigh.

 

[Marilyn C]

Sigh.

And the interpretation is....?

 

[Earburner]

Really? Guess you can't search for His interpreation in Scripture. Not surprised.



Really? You said, "Therefore, the "another beast" is the USA, and the "image" of the 10H Beast is the United Nations."

Based on Scripture, did the Lord say that?! Nowhere. It was your private interpreation based on an assumption.

The prophetic language of God is that of His foreknowledge of situations and events that are to come in the future upon the earth among men.
You don't understand the contextual message of God's thoughts in symbolism, whereby He must communicate to us on our level by His use of our human words.

Because His thoughts and His ways are not our thoughts and ways (Isa. 55:8-9), we can only understand Him by the help of His Holy Spirit dwelling within us, that is if we are listening to Him, and not that of the preconcieved thoughts of men and their doctrines of men (church-ianity).

Being now 2000+/- years since Christ ascended into heaven, according to Amil understanding, most all of prophecy within the figurative 1000 years is now fulfilled.

God does explicitly tell us WHO it is that shall "make" the image of the beast, and
WHO it is that tells them to make the image of the beast.
Once you know the truth of who is who in Rev. 13:11-16, no other interpretation, opinion, speculation or fabrication will be able to corrupt you.

 

[Earburner]

That doesn`t make sense. The other beast, is a person. `He had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.` (Rev. 13: 11)

That `false Prophet` will have two offices - religious and Economic. He will look harmless, (lamb) but will speak with the authority of the dragon, Satan.

The image of the 10 horned beast is the A/C who has 10 kings join him in a Federation ruling the world.

Of course it makes sense, when one abides by the rules of prophetic interpretation in Daniel of what the symbols of beasts, heads, mountains and horns literally represent.

From Daniel, maybe you can correct yourself by learning what "beasts" are symbolic of.