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Don't you think God who wants us to walk in truth?
Will provide some teachers that are sound and good, which need to be sorted out of the many?

James 3:1 tells us....

Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know
that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.

Note what it says?
"Not many."

Add to that.

2 Timothy 4:3, tells us there will be many bad teachers. Those who will tell people what they want to hear,
rather, then being able to tell believers what they are needing to hear!

The problem is outlined right here!

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires,
they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
I found a few good over the years.
Here is one excellent teacher that I am so glad I found by God's grace through prayer.
R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries | Home



Grace and peace!
Indeed, there are a few. However, what is foretold is very limited. Here are a few indicators, and what we should expect:

Mark 13:11
But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.

John 16:13
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

Revelation 10:7
but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets.​
PS, Unfortunately, destructive doctrines were allowed by God, causing many good teachers to be unaware. It can even be said, that for a time, what has been taught was meant for good by God, that under the blindness of apostacy many generations and people would be added to the fold. The end of which would be the finish of the mystery of God that has remained sealed since Daniel and since John.
 
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@Big Boy Johnson, It's all perception.


In my opinion, www.thegreatnewsnetwork.com is a viable source for anyone looking for verse by verse teachings on the bible.

The Great News Network (TGNN) is led by Shawn and Delaney McCraney, a father and daughter who’ve (apart and together) spent decades discovering, teaching, and living out The Great News — a fulfilled perspective of faith beyond religion.

There are times were the Bible can be very boring. That is just facts... our flesh hates anything to do with it. That is my perception anyway.
 

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But you enjoy doing it so much, it makes one wonder.

And, do not quote theologians as if you are quoting Scripture.
For some of them hated Jews....

Refute the Word of God quoted in post #41.
Not your feelings — not your emotional projections — the actual text.

Then refute the words of the early Church Fathers, the ones who lived, bled, and died to defend the Gospel before America, Scofield, or Zionism even existed. I literally have thousands of quotes like those that span over a thousand years..

All confirming one truth:

Israel is in Christ, or it is nothing.

And what do you bring?
Accusations of racism because the Bible and Church history don’t flatter your theology?

That’s not an argument.
That’s deflection.

If the truth feels like hatred to you, maybe that says more about the state of your heart than the state of my words.

Come back when you have something stronger than feelings.
Until then, the Word of God stands — and it doesn’t apologize.
 
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Getting it right about Israel isn't going to cure the church of worldliness and lukewarmness, but it certainly will force apart the current Zionist links between church and state. That can only be a good thing.

Who is true Israel? Is it the physical nation fighting for its existence in the Middle East, or is it the spiritual entity we know as the church. And if it is the church, which one?

The name "Israel" first appears in the Bible in Genesis 32:28. After a night of wrestling with the heavenly visitor (who I personally believe to be Christ Himself) Jacob prevails in his efforts and his name is changed from Jacob, the deceiver or supplanter, to Israel, meaning he will rule. Jacob has prevailed with God and overcome.

At the time of this event, Jacob was reluctant to face Esau after 20 years of exile and was quite simply terrified of him. His former deception of his father and claim to be Esau was now playing on his conscience and he desired God's blessing and forgiveness before proceeding. So the 'Angel' asks Jacob his name, to which he truthfully replies 'my name is Jacob'. In this he was confessing his guilt, and God then knew he was a changed man, so gave him a new name that celebrated so to speak his victory over sin, self and his night of wrestling in prayer, the 'Angel' saying "for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed."
Israel, as a name therefore represents spiritual victory over sin.

Is this real Israel?
This is significant as it tells us God's purpose for His people. That is, to live in victory over sin, to show forth God's true character to the world.

In Exod 4:22,23 Moses is instructed on how he is to speak to Pharaoh in order that Israel's descendants may be freed from slavery. God says to Moses "and thou shalt say unto Pharaoh 'Thus saith the Lord,Israel is My son, my firstborn and I say unto thee let My son go to serve me..."
This is the first time Israel is used in a corporate sense for the entire nation. Before it applied only to an individual, but here we see it being applied to his descendants. First to a victorious man, then to his people.
Did Israel live up to that name? What was God trying to accomplish in establishing Israel in the first place? Was it not that He would have a people to represent Him on the earth? Before God had His champions, but all failed. Sin interposed and no longer was any of God's chosen able to fulfill the true destiny that God intended for them. Adam failed over appetite. So did Noah. Abraham also, but God was determined to establish a people after His own heart and show the gentiles His law, His mercy and grace and power. Interesting that Adam, Noah, and Israel all failed on points of appetite. (Gen 9:20,21; Exodus 16:27-29.)

It wasn't until Jesus came on the scene in person that the title "Israel" in it's truest spiritual sense and power could be rightly bestowed. And Mathew in particular showed this time and time again how Jesus was the fulfillment of the OT prophecies which may have originally applied to the nation, but now, according to Mathew's inspired writings, applied in fact to Jesus. Examples are Hosea 11:1 ; Isaiah 41:8,42:1-3 .

Or is the spiritual entity we know as the 'church', true Israel?
Paul followed the same idea and reasoning by paralleling Col 1:15 with Ex 4:22, Gal 3:16 with Isaiah 41:8 and elsewhere.

Jesus Himself proclaimed Himself as the true vine, in fulfilment of Ps 80:8 which applied to the nation.
So now the mantle and authority once bestowed upon the nation has been given to Jesus. Jesus is the essence of true Israel. He only has the right to bear the name for He only has prevailed with sin and overcome. Jesus walked over the same ground that Israel walked, but came through victorious. In His temptations in the wilderness, it was appetite that came under particular scrutiny.

What Paul does in Romans and other writers in the NT however is extend that idea and show how the name Israel also now applies to Jesus' descendants, just as it did to Jacob's descendants. Peter also showed this when he compared the church to Exodus 19:6.(1 Peter 2:9).
So as Paul says, immediately after saying that Jesus is the 'seed' of Abraham, Gentile converts in Galatia were now also Abraham's seed because they are Christ's. They are also heirs according to the promise.

This is not 'replacement ' theology. It is merely a revelation of who true Israel always was and who Israel is now. It is those people, of whatever nation kindred tongue and people, who by faith in the mercy grace and power of God overcome sin and receive Christ's righteousness and forgiveness as a gift and are willing to share that gift with the lost. True Israel was always exclusively those who "as princes had power with God and men and prevailed".

Thus the unfulfilled covenant that Jeremiah speaks of and repeated in hebrews, "I will place My laws in their hearts and in their minds I will write them" applies to the church, not a resurgent nation. All Israel will be saved, but the descendants of Jesus, not flesh and blood descendants of Jacob.

And the prophecies that most believe apply to the nation, apply to the church. For example, Armageddon is not the world arrayed against the nation of Israel, but the unsaved world (those who have accepted the mark) arrayed against the remnant who have refused the mark, and are under the sentence of death. Those who keep the commandments of God, (and thus have gained that victory over sin) and have the faith of Jesus. Rev.12:17; 14:12.
 

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Getting it right about Israel isn't going to cure the church of worldliness and lukewarmness, but it certainly will force apart the current Zionist links between church and state. That can only be a good thing.

Who is true Israel? Is it the physical nation fighting for its existence in the Middle East, or is it the spiritual entity we know as the church. And if it is the church, which one?

The name "Israel" first appears in the Bible in Genesis 32:28. After a night of wrestling with the heavenly visitor (who I personally believe to be Christ Himself) Jacob prevails in his efforts and his name is changed from Jacob, the deceiver or supplanter, to Israel, meaning he will rule. Jacob has prevailed with God and overcome.

At the time of this event, Jacob was reluctant to face Esau after 20 years of exile and was quite simply terrified of him. His former deception of his father and claim to be Esau was now playing on his conscience and he desired God's blessing and forgiveness before proceeding. So the 'Angel' asks Jacob his name, to which he truthfully replies 'my name is Jacob'. In this he was confessing his guilt, and God then knew he was a changed man, so gave him a new name that celebrated so to speak his victory over sin, self and his night of wrestling in prayer, the 'Angel' saying "for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed."
Israel, as a name therefore represents spiritual victory over sin.

Is this real Israel?
This is significant as it tells us God's purpose for His people. That is, to live in victory over sin, to show forth God's true character to the world.

In Exod 4:22,23 Moses is instructed on how he is to speak to Pharaoh in order that Israel's descendants may be freed from slavery. God says to Moses "and thou shalt say unto Pharaoh 'Thus saith the Lord,Israel is My son, my firstborn and I say unto thee let My son go to serve me..."
This is the first time Israel is used in a corporate sense for the entire nation. Before it applied only to an individual, but here we see it being applied to his descendants. First to a victorious man, then to his people.
Did Israel live up to that name? What was God trying to accomplish in establishing Israel in the first place? Was it not that He would have a people to represent Him on the earth? Before God had His champions, but all failed. Sin interposed and no longer was any of God's chosen able to fulfill the true destiny that God intended for them. Adam failed over appetite. So did Noah. Abraham also, but God was determined to establish a people after His own heart and show the gentiles His law, His mercy and grace and power. Interesting that Adam, Noah, and Israel all failed on points of appetite. (Gen 9:20,21; Exodus 16:27-29.)

It wasn't until Jesus came on the scene in person that the title "Israel" in it's truest spiritual sense and power could be rightly bestowed. And Mathew in particular showed this time and time again how Jesus was the fulfillment of the OT prophecies which may have originally applied to the nation, but now, according to Mathew's inspired writings, applied in fact to Jesus. Examples are Hosea 11:1 ; Isaiah 41:8,42:1-3 .

Or is the spiritual entity we know as the 'church', true Israel?
Paul followed the same idea and reasoning by paralleling Col 1:15 with Ex 4:22, Gal 3:16 with Isaiah 41:8 and elsewhere.

Jesus Himself proclaimed Himself as the true vine, in fulfilment of Ps 80:8 which applied to the nation.
So now the mantle and authority once bestowed upon the nation has been given to Jesus. Jesus is the essence of true Israel. He only has the right to bear the name for He only has prevailed with sin and overcome. Jesus walked over the same ground that Israel walked, but came through victorious. In His temptations in the wilderness, it was appetite that came under particular scrutiny.

What Paul does in Romans and other writers in the NT however is extend that idea and show how the name Israel also now applies to Jesus' descendants, just as it did to Jacob's descendants. Peter also showed this when he compared the church to Exodus 19:6.(1 Peter 2:9).
So as Paul says, immediately after saying that Jesus is the 'seed' of Abraham, Gentile converts in Galatia were now also Abraham's seed because they are Christ's. They are also heirs according to the promise.

This is not 'replacement ' theology. It is merely a revelation of who true Israel always was and who Israel is now. It is those people, of whatever nation kindred tongue and people, who by faith in the mercy grace and power of God overcome sin and receive Christ's righteousness and forgiveness as a gift and are willing to share that gift with the lost. True Israel was always exclusively those who "as princes had power with God and men and prevailed".

Thus the unfulfilled covenant that Jeremiah speaks of and repeated in hebrews, "I will place My laws in their hearts and in their minds I will write them" applies to the church, not a resurgent nation. All Israel will be saved, but the descendants of Jesus, not flesh and blood descendants of Jacob.

And the prophecies that most believe apply to the nation, apply to the church. For example, Armageddon is not the world arrayed against the nation of Israel, but the unsaved world (those who have accepted the mark) arrayed against the remnant who have refused the mark, and are under the sentence of death. Those who keep the commandments of God, (and thus have gained that victory over sin) and have the faith of Jesus. Rev.12:17; 14:12.


You got so close to the truth you could feel the heat, but then you wrapped it in ambiguity and softened the edge.

The Gospel doesn’t ‘redefine’ Israel.
It claims Israel.
It transfers the title deed to Christ — and to those in Him.
Not by bloodline, not by Torah.
But by the cross.

This isn’t about who “rules” or “overcomes appetite.”
It’s about who follows the Son.

He is True Israel — and His Body is the only covenant of people God recognizes on Earth.

Anything less isn’t theology, it’s Zionist propaganda dressed up in scripture to sell a covenant God already ended 2,000 years ago.

And not a single Christian on Earth believed any of this until John Nelson Darby conjured it up in the 1830s — and Scofield, backed by the Dragon, bushwhacked America with it during the Great Depression.

Period. The End.
 
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What misled Christians are doing here is playing the trans-insanity game with the Jews — just on a religious level.
Just like men claim to be women and demand affirmation, they're claiming a covenant that isn’t theirs and demanding the Church not only go along with it, but bow to their delusion.

But the Gospel of Jesus Christ obliterates those claims.
God doesn’t honor self-identification or genealogies.
He honors the cross.

Even the Puritans would’ve seen through the 1948 hijack of Palestine — bought by Rothschilds, backed by Rockefellers, and anointed not by God, but by propaganda and war.

But in 1909, they began rewiring the mind of the Church.
Scofield replaced scripture.
Darby replaced doctrine.

And they manipulated you into forgetting who you are in Christ.

Now you’re pledging allegiance to a covenant God ended 2,000 years ago and calling it “prophecy.”

It’s not, it’s absolute insanity.
Stop going along with it.

Wake up and repent.
Come back to the cross — or keep serving the Dragon whose spell and veil you're firmly under.
 
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To the lurkers... stop and think.

The Word of God says:

Romans 2:28–29
“For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit…”

That was from Post #41...

One point at a time.
Now, you show me where I am wrong.

Romans 2:28–29?

Paul, who was a Jew, was teaching the Gentile Roman believers principles of what constituted true Judaism.
That the legalism of Judaism as they had been accustomed to seeing was not something to be emulated.
That what the Romans had been used to seeing was not true Judaism, but seeing the fruit of legalistic Pharisaism.

That is why Paul was teaching them the following verses...

Romans 2:28–29​
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.
No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit,
not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

Paul was teaching the Gentile Roman believers about Jews, and how a Jew should have been living at that time. That the Jews they saw were not living as a Jew should have lived in order to please God.

Paul was not teaching the Romans to be as Jews. Paul was just correcting their misconception they were having been exposed to by Pharisaically influenced Jews.

Now?
Prove me wrong.
 

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Especially Luther!

Adolph Hitler followed Luther as a young man and learned to hate the Jews from Luther because Luther despised the Jews.

Luther had a devil :funlaugh2

Wise gentile believers are our best friends.
Dumb Gentile believers are their own worst enemy.


But? God saves them and seats them with Christ in heaven just the same.
 

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That was from Post #41...

One point at a time.
Now, you show me where I am wrong.

Romans 2:28–29?

Paul, who was a Jew, was teaching the Gentile Roman believers principles of what constituted true Judaism.
That the legalism of Judaism as they had been accustomed to seeing was not something to be emulated.
That what the Romans had been used to seeing was not true Judaism, but seeing the fruit of legalistic Pharisaism.

That is why Paul was teaching them the following verses...

Romans 2:28–29​
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.
No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit,
not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

Paul was teaching the Gentile Roman believers about Jews, and how a Jew should have been living at that time. That the Jews they saw were not living as a Jew should have lived in order to please God.

Paul was not teaching the Romans to be as Jews. Paul was just correcting their misconception they were having been exposed to by Pharisaically influenced Jews.

Now?
Prove me wrong.


Easily and with little effort...

This is exactly how false theology crumbles when exposed to the raw, undiluted Word of God.

You claim Paul was “just teaching Gentiles how Jews should behave.”
That Romans 2:28–29 is merely a correction of legalistic Pharisees.

That’s not just wrong — it’s a complete evasion of what the text actually says… and what it destroys.

As if Paul is saying, “Hey Gentiles, don’t judge those Jews too harshly, they’re just a little legalistic.”

No.

Paul wasn’t defining how a Jew should live.
He was redefining who the Jew even is.

“Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.”
That’s not a rebuke of bad manners — it’s a rejection of entire genealogical frameworks.

He says — the true Jew is the one with a circumcised heart,
the one indwelt by the Spirit,
the one reborn — not of flesh, but of promise.

Paul didn’t say the Pharisee was misguided, he revealed that those who trust in the flesh aren’t even counted as Jews in God’s eyes.

Let that land.

This wasn’t a lesson in behavior, it was a revolution of identity.

It was Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, lighting a theological nuke and dropping it right on the temple of ethnic privilege.

This wasn’t Paul correcting Jewish customs, it was the final eulogy of flesh-based covenant theology.

And he said it clearly:

Not a Jew outwardly.
Not by flesh.
Not by law.
Not by lineage.
Not by Abraham’s blood.
Not by circumcision.

But by the Spirit.


If you are in Christ — then, and only then — are you Abraham’s seed and heir to the promise.

Your interpretation doesn’t merely miss the point — it strategically evades it.
(Exactly as Darby and Scofield engineered it to; in the footnotes from the Pit.)

Romans 2:28–29 isn’t a critique of Pharisees.
It’s the Spirit of God drawing a line in the sand and saying:

“The covenant people are not who you think they are.
They are those in Christ — and only those in Christ now.”


This is what the apostles believed.
It’s what every Christian on earth believed for 1,900 years.

And everything — everything — that Scofield built, that the Zionist propaganda machine upholds, that modern evangelicalism bows to?

It all collapses under this verse.

This is where flesh dies.
This is where the promise lives.

And if you’re still clinging to blood and race and tribe?

You’re not just in error —
You are standing on the wrong side of the line Paul drew.

Paul, by the Spirit, revealed the true nature of Israel — not based on ethnicity, but on spiritual rebirth.

Romans 2:28–29A Jew is one inwardly, by the Spirit.
Romans 9:6–8Not all descended from Israel belong to Israel.
Galatians 3:29If you are in Christ, you are Abraham’s seed.

Faith — not flesh — now determines covenant identity.

What Darby and Scofield taught...
In the 1800s, John Nelson Darby laid the groundwork.
In 1909, Cyrus Scofield baptized it with Oxford’s press.

Together, they invented and spread Dispensationalism, a system that:

Separates Israel and the Church permanently.
Preserves special promises for ethnic Jews, regardless of faith.
Redefines the Gospel into a two-track plan: one for Jews, one for Gentiles.
Ignores or twists scriptures like Romans 2:28–29 to preserve "ethnic supremacy" — directly contradicting the New Testament at every level.

This is why the Holy Spirit, speaking through Paul, warned us plainly in Titus 3:9: ‘Avoid foolish questions, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law — for they are unprofitable and vain.’”

God Himself made it plain: tribal lineage has no covenant value anymore.


Scofield’s footnotes didn’t just distort Scripture, they laid the foundation for a theology of deception.
These weren’t just mistaken ideas, they were forged in rebellion against the Gospel itself.

This was not a passive mistake.
It was a calculated framework built to reshape Christian theology around Zionism, racial distinctions, and end-times manipulation.

It flipped Paul’s Gospel upside down — not by accident, but by design.

And the result?

It brainwashed Christians into marching straight down the wide road.
It assured Jews they were in covenant, while keeping them outside of salvation.
It misled Christians into thinking that the Body of Christ wasn't Israel. (Something every Christian believed for nearly 2000 years)
It told ethnic Jews they were saved without Christ — a lie that damned souls.
It replaced the Gospel with a geopolitical idol.
It turned the Church into a cheering section for the flesh & war and silenced the call to repentance.

And worst of all...

It made millions believe they were in covenant with God,
while they were still outside of Christ — and outside the promise.

No Christian on earth believed these lies before the 1800s — when Darby birthed them, Scofield canonized them, and Rockefeller helped finance their global spread.

The Scofield Reference Bible — leather-bound, gold-leafed, and engineered to deceive the world; it became the theological torpedo that struck the American Church in 1909. Oxford University Press didn’t just publish the Scofield Bible — they built brand-new printing facilities in America just to manufacture it (imagine that). It was the first time in history a theology was mass-produced with the backing of international banking, British academia, and American pulpits… all in one unholy alliance.
 
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One of the core truths the Scofield system was specifically built to erase is this:

Christians are the New Covenant Jews.

The heirs of the promise.

The fulfillment of what Israel was always meant to be — through Christ, the King of the Jews.

The New Covenant Jews follow the King of the Jews — Jesus Christ.
That’s why they’re called Christians.
You know… because, they follow.. the KING of the Jews; whose name is Christ.

This isn't hard.

And this isn’t “replacement theology.”
It’s fulfillment theology.
It’s the Gospel.

The problem isn’t that we replaced ethnic Israel.
The problem is that Rockefeller, Rothschild, Oxford, Darby and Scofield tried to resurrect the corpse of the Old Covenant — the one that died at the foot of the Cross

And those who still cling to that corpse —
those who reject the King while claiming the Kingdom —
are not walking in covenant.

They are lost in the shadows of a temple that no longer stands.
And the veil they cherish was torn in two 2,000 years ago.
And still they bow to the veil — as if it wasn’t torn.

…and then they called it prophecy, bound it in leather, stamped it with gold, and preached it from pulpits soaked in ignorance and blood.

And that’s how the Dragon deceived the whole world — both Old Covenant Jew and New Covenant Jew alike.


“Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great… for by her sorcery all the nations were deceived.”
— Revelation 18:23
 
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Easily and with little effort...

This is exactly how false theology crumbles when exposed to the raw, undiluted Word of God.

You claim Paul was “just teaching Gentiles how Jews should behave.”
That Romans 2:28–29 is merely a correction of legalistic Pharisees.

That’s not just wrong — it’s a complete evasion of what the text actually says… and what it destroys.

As if Paul is saying, “Hey Gentiles, don’t judge those Jews too harshly, they’re just a little legalistic.”

No.

Paul wasn’t defining how a Jew should live.
He was redefining who the Jew even is.

“Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.”
That’s not a rebuke of bad manners — it’s a rejection of entire genealogical frameworks.

He says — the true Jew is the one with a circumcised heart,
the one indwelt by the Spirit,
the one reborn — not of flesh, but of promise.

Paul didn’t say the Pharisee was misguided, he revealed that those who trust in the flesh aren’t even counted as Jews in God’s eyes.

Let that land.

This wasn’t a lesson in behavior, it was a revolution of identity.

It was Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, lighting a theological nuke and dropping it right on the temple of ethnic privilege.

This wasn’t Paul correcting Jewish customs, it was the final eulogy of flesh-based covenant theology.

And he said it clearly:

Not a Jew outwardly.
Not by flesh.
Not by law.
Not by lineage.
Not by Abraham’s blood.
Not by circumcision.

But by the Spirit.


If you are in Christ — then, and only then — are you Abraham’s seed and heir to the promise.

Your interpretation doesn’t merely miss the point — it strategically evades it.
(Exactly as Darby and Scofield engineered it to; in the footnotes from the Pit.)

Romans 2:28–29 isn’t a critique of Pharisees.
It’s the Spirit of God drawing a line in the sand and saying:

“The covenant people are not who you think they are.
They are those in Christ — and only those in Christ now.”


This is what the apostles believed.
It’s what every Christian on earth believed for 1,900 years.

And everything — everything — that Scofield built, that the Zionist propaganda machine upholds, that modern evangelicalism bows to?

It all collapses under this verse.

This is where flesh dies.
This is where the promise lives.

And if you’re still clinging to blood and race and tribe?

You’re not just in error —
You are standing on the wrong side of the line Paul drew.

Paul, by the Spirit, revealed the true nature of Israel — not based on ethnicity, but on spiritual rebirth.

Romans 2:28–29A Jew is one inwardly, by the Spirit.
Romans 9:6–8Not all descended from Israel belong to Israel.
Galatians 3:29If you are in Christ, you are Abraham’s seed.

Faith — not flesh — now determines covenant identity.

What Darby and Scofield taught...
In the 1800s, John Nelson Darby laid the groundwork.
In 1909, Cyrus Scofield baptized it with Oxford’s press.

Together, they invented and spread Dispensationalism, a system that:

Separates Israel and the Church permanently.
Preserves special promises for ethnic Jews, regardless of faith.
Redefines the Gospel into a two-track plan: one for Jews, one for Gentiles.
Ignores or twists scriptures like Romans 2:28–29 to preserve "ethnic supremacy" — directly contradicting the New Testament at every level.

This is why the Holy Spirit, speaking through Paul, warned us plainly in Titus 3:9: ‘Avoid foolish questions, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law — for they are unprofitable and vain.’”

God Himself made it plain: tribal lineage has no covenant value anymore.


Scofield’s footnotes didn’t just distort Scripture, they laid the foundation for a theology of deception.
These weren’t just mistaken ideas, they were forged in rebellion against the Gospel itself.

This was not a passive mistake.
It was a calculated framework built to reshape Christian theology around Zionism, racial distinctions, and end-times manipulation.

It flipped Paul’s Gospel upside down — not by accident, but by design.

And the result?

It brainwashed Christians into marching straight down the wide road.
It assured Jews they were in covenant, while keeping them outside of salvation.
It misled Christians into thinking that the Body of Christ wasn't Israel. (Something every Christian believed for nearly 2000 years)
It told ethnic Jews they were saved without Christ — a lie that damned souls.
It replaced the Gospel with a geopolitical idol.
It turned the Church into a cheering section for the flesh & war and silenced the call to repentance.

And worst of all...

It made millions believe they were in covenant with God,
while they were still outside of Christ — and outside the promise.

No Christian on earth believed these lies before the 1800s — when Darby birthed them, Scofield canonized them, and Rockefeller helped finance their global spread.

The Scofield Reference Bible — leather-bound, gold-leafed, and engineered to deceive the world; it became the theological torpedo that struck the American Church in 1909. Oxford University Press didn’t just publish the Scofield Bible — they built brand-new printing facilities in America just to manufacture it (imagine that). It was the first time in history a theology was mass-produced with the backing of international banking, British academia, and American pulpits… all in one unholy alliance.

If you are going to twist my words to prove I am an idiot in how you present it?

Go ahead....
It is your technique.

It is not Christian.
It is religious FLESH.

Keeping my Pearls away from swine.

You are on IGNORE.
 

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Your words weren’t twisted.
They were answered — with Scripture, in full context, and with historical truth you couldn’t refute.


If quoting Romans 2:28–29, Galatians 3:29, and Titus 3:9 is now considered "twisting" or "religious flesh," then your argument isn’t with me — it’s with Paul. And if identifying Christians as the true heirs of the promise, through Christ — the King of the Jews — offends you, then it’s not theology you’re rejecting. It’s the Gospel itself.

Scofield’s theology didn’t come from the Holy Spirit, it came from Oxford, Zionism, and men who severed Christ from the promises of God and rebuilt what the Cross already tore down. That’s not a pearl — it’s a carcass.

You’re free to put me on ignore.
But I’ll leave you with this:

“Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?”
— Galatians 4:16

God doesn’t call us to guard idols.
He calls us to tear down strongholds.

And that’s exactly what just happened here.

The reason the Church is falling apart isn’t complicated.
It’s because 80% of them aren’t preaching the Word —
They’re preaching Scofield.

And everyone
not under the veil, sees that it's completely INSANE and endangering the entire World and God's creation.

Which is exactly, what it was designed by the Dragon to do.

To create Hell on earth and unleash total chaos.

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Wise gentile believers are our best friends.
Dumb Gentile believers are their own worst enemy.


But? God saves them and seats them with Christ in heaven just the same.

So let me guess - you claim to be one of the so called "Wise gentile believers" who are so much more superior than those pesky "dumb gentile believers" :Laughingoutloud:






Keeping my Pearls away from swine.

More like getting your pearls FROM swine? :funlaugh2
 

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So let me guess - you claim to be one of the so called "Wise gentile believers" who are so much more superior than those pesky "dumb gentile believers" :Laughingoutloud:








More like getting your pearls FROM swine? :funlaugh2
Thanks for outing yourself.
I suspected...

Now I know.
 

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So let me guess - you claim to be one of the so called "Wise gentile believers" who are so much more superior than those pesky "dumb gentile believers"

Wise Gentile believers get accurate sound teaching not designed to please their flesh.
Dumb Gentile believers seek out distorted teachings to justify how they are in their flesh.


Attention span missing?

I came from a Jewish family.
Negative gentile believers like you is what caused me to wonder if I should believe in Jesus Christ.

Christ won.
But, you are still losing.

Now go back into the schoolyard.
Find more kids to push around.

You never grew up........
 
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^ See what Scofield did?

He gave flesh-based Jews a counterfeit Gospel that let them keep their tribal supremacy while pretending to accept Christ.

They looked at this newfangled, dragon-breathed theology from Hell and said:

"Wait… I can still believe I’m chosen above everyone else, more important than any other race on Earth… and all I have to do is say I believe in Jesus?"

And the Dragon whispered:
“Yesss.”

This was never accidental.
It was by design — a theological trap engineered to preserve ethnic pride, bypass the Cross, and hijack the Church.

And now?

You’ve got millions of misled Jews preaching to millions of misled Christians that they're "racist antisemites" for quoting Paul and Christ himself.

And the entire religion of Christianity has been rewired, repackaged, and sold back to the Church under Scofield’s label.

This isn’t revival.
It’s a global end-times psyop, that started in 1909.
 
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:hmhehmBring out the torches and pitchforks!
There is a heretical Christian on our street!

Are you ready men?!
Let's go get them!


(so... Christian like)
 

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Thanks for outing yourself.
I suspected...

Yes, too bad I'm not "superior" like you getting pearls FROM swine :funlaugh2





But, you are still losing.

Well you swine people wouldn't know winning if someone shipped some victory to you in a box!

Glad to hear your pride keep you sufficiently puffed up and keeps you so superior so you can feel good about yourself! :rolleyes:





If's not corret doctrine that needs to be taught; it's correct relationship with Jesus. And through Hin with God.

And of course with no correct doctrine, there will be right relationship with the Lord.