THE GOSPEL

[MatthewG]

Some Ai analysis,

The "gospel of Christ" according to Paul is most clearly articulated in 1 Corinthians 15:1-8. This passage outlines the core message of the gospel, emphasizing that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and was resurrected on the third day, according to the Scriptures, and appeared to various witnesses.

Here's a breakdown of the key elements of the gospel as presented by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:

• Christ's Death: He died for our sins, fulfilling the prophecies of the Old Testament.
• Christ's Burial: He was placed in a tomb, demonstrating the reality of His death.
• Christ's Resurrection: He rose from the dead on the third day, proving His victory over sin and death.
• Witnesses of the Resurrection: Paul lists several witnesses who saw the resurrected Christ, including Cephas (Peter), the Twelve, over 500 brethren at once, James, and all the apostles.

 

[Doug]

Here’s three—and they shatter your wall between Israel and the rest of us:

These are not from the prophets

 

[RenewedStrength316]

Some Ai analysis,

The "gospel of Christ" according to Paul is most clearly articulated in 1 Corinthians 15:1-8. This passage outlines the core message of the gospel, emphasizing that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and was resurrected on the third day, according to the Scriptures, and appeared to various witnesses.

Here's a breakdown of the key elements of the gospel as presented by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:

• Christ's Death: He died for our sins, fulfilling the prophecies of the Old Testament.
• Christ's Burial: He was placed in a tomb, demonstrating the reality of His death.
• Christ's Resurrection: He rose from the dead on the third day, proving His victory over sin and death.
• Witnesses of the Resurrection: Paul lists several witnesses who saw the resurrected Christ, including Cephas (Peter), the Twelve, over 500 brethren at once, James, and all the apostles.

You’ve laid out the gospel’s foundation solidly—Christ’s death, burial, resurrection, and the eyewitnesses. This is the bedrock of our faith.

But the gospel isn’t just history. It’s crucifixion and resurrection lived today in the soul of every believer. Paul said, “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me” (Galatians 2:20).

If the gospel doesn’t break the old man, kill the pride, and raise a new creation walking in Spirit-powered obedience—then it’s a lie dressed in sacred robes. It’s religion, not redemption.

The gospel is not a museum relic; it’s a consuming fire that re-makes us by the power of the Spirit.

No resurrection without death. No life without crucifixion.

That’s the gospel I preach. That’s the gospel I live.

 

[RenewedStrength316]

These are not from the prophets

Doug, you say “these aren’t from the prophets”?

Then let the prophets speak.


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> Isaiah 49:6 — “It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob... I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be My salvation unto the end of the earth.”



The Gentiles were never an afterthought. They were the target.
From the prophets. From the beginning.


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> Isaiah 53:5–6 — “He was wounded for our transgressions... the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.”



Not just Judah.
Not just the circumcised.
All.

The cross isn’t an interruption in prophecy — it’s the fulfillment of it.


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> Hosea 2:23 — “I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.”



Who is that if not Gentiles?
Paul quoted it — but Hosea prophesied it.


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> Malachi 1:11 — “For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same, My name shall be great among the Gentiles.”



The prophets weren’t silent, Doug.
You just haven’t listened.


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You want to draw a line between Paul and the prophets?
Then you’ll have to take a knife to the very Scriptures that gave him his gospel.

> “He expounded unto them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.” — Luke 24:27
“To Him give all the prophets witness…” — Acts 10:43
*“Christ died for our sins *according to the Scriptures.” — 1 Corinthians 15:3



The prophets didn’t preach Paul. Paul preached the prophets.


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Your wall is falling, Doug.
Repent before it buries you.

> *“Is not My word like fire?” says the Lord, *
“and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?” — Jeremiah 23:29



And it just did.

 

[MatthewG]

You’ve laid out the gospel’s foundation solidly—Christ’s death, burial, resurrection, and the eyewitnesses. This is the bedrock of our faith.

It sure is, RS316. I don't have to go any further than this right here. When it comes down to the Gospel as Paul puts it here. All that extra stuff, is unneeded.

 

[LoveYeshua]

This is the gospel by which we are saved.

1 Corinthians 15 contains Paul's gospel:

[1Co 15:1, 3-4 KJV] 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; ... 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

We are all sinners who cannot save ourselves.

See Romans 3:23 Titus 3:5 Romans 5:6

[Rom 3:23 KJV] 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

[Tit 3:5 KJV] 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

[Rom 5:6 KJV] 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

Christ died for our sins; He was our substitute; He paid the full penalty and debt for our sin by his blood sacrifice.

See 2 Corinthians 5:21 Romans 3:24 Romans 3:25 Romans 3:26

[2Co 5:21 KJV] 21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

[Rom 3:24-26 KJV] 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

He was buried.

He rose again for our justification (to declare us righteous) and forgiveness of all our sin. He gives us His righteousness and eternal life.

See Romans 4:25 Ephesians 1:7 Romans 4:22 Romans 4:23 Romans 4:24 1 Corinthians 1:30

[Rom 4:22-25 KJV] 22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

[Eph 1:7 KJV] 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

[1Co 1:30 KJV] 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

The Message and Gospel of Jesus Christ our lord
Jesus proclaimed with clarity and compassion: "Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 4:17). This core message reverberated throughout His ministry, resonating in the hearts of those who sought truth and redemption. He taught with authority, revealing God's love and His plan for humanity's salvation: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).
Jesus proclaimed Himself as the ultimate and only source of life and salvation, declaring, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" (John 11:25). He likened His role to the vital essence that sustains and satisfies, stating, "But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life" (John 4:14). Again Jesus assured His followers that He alone is the way to the Father, affirming, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6). In embracing Him as the living water and the path to eternal life, believers find fulfillment, purpose, and eternal security in His divine grace and truth.
Jesus underscored the significance of following God's commandments, affirming, "If ye love me, keep my commandments" (John 14:15). He taught that obedience to God's law demonstrates genuine love and devotion: "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me" (John 14:21). The commandments serve not as burdensome rules but as a moral guide to righteous living and harmonious relationships with God and others: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind" (Matthew 22:37). Jesus exemplified obedience to God's will throughout His life, setting an example for His followers to emulate: "For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you" (John 13:15). Thus, adherence to God's commandments not only honors Him but also leads to spiritual growth and alignment with His divine purpose for humanity.
However, Jesus also warned of the consequences for those who reject Him and refuse to repent: "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal" (Matthew 25:46). Revelation further unveils the destiny of the righteous, depicting a glorious future where God's kingdom reigns supreme: "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away" (Revelation 21:1).
In this new reality, God will dwell among His people, wiping away all tears and abolishing death and sorrow forever (Revelation 21:3-4). The redeemed will bask in His presence, enjoying eternal communion with their Creator: "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him" (Revelation 22:3).
Therefore, let us heed Jesus' call to repentance, embrace His message of love and salvation, and eagerly anticipate the fulfillment of His promises. For in Christ, we find hope, redemption, and the assurance of a future beyond imagination, where righteousness reigns and God's glory shines forever.

 

[Doug]

> Isaiah 49:6 — “It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob... I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be My salvation unto the end of the earth.”

This does not say Christ died as a ransom for all

 

[Doug]

> Isaiah 53:5–6 — “He was wounded for our transgressions... the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.”

Sorry this is not for all ....for Israel

[Isa 53:8 KJV] 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

My people is Israel

[Isa 53:11 KJV] 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Justify MANY not ALL

 

[Doug]

> Hosea 2:23 — “I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.”

This is said about believing Israel

 

[Doug]

> Malachi 1:11 — “For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same, My name shall be great among the Gentiles.”

God always made provision for Gentiles
This says nothing of Christ a ransom for all

 

[RenewedStrength316]

This does not say Christ died as a ransom for all

Doug, enough with the half-measures and excuses. Isaiah 49:6 is the gospel pulse—God’s heart beating beyond Israel, reaching the Gentiles, the nations, the lost, the broken. If you say it doesn’t prove Christ died for all, you’re building a gospel of shadows and lies.

Hear the thunder of Scripture that shatters your fence:

> “For God so loved the world…” — John 3:16
“Who gave Himself a ransom for all…” — 1 Timothy 2:6
“He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” — 1 John 2:2
“There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon Him.” — Romans 10:12



This is not dispensational trivia. This is the heart of God. The cross was never meant to be a divider; it is the ultimate unifier, breaking every wall of hostility (Ephesians 2:14). You’re clutching your Israel-only gospel like a shield, but it’s a brittle shield—cracking under the weight of Scripture’s hammer.

Your “not all” theology is no gospel at all. It’s a betrayal of the blood that cleanses all sin. Paul’s gospel is Christ crucified and resurrected—for everyone who calls on His name. Anything less is cheap grace, heresy disguised as truth.

If you refuse to repent, you’re not just deceiving yourself—you’re leading others into darkness. The Spirit is calling you out. Don’t harden your heart against the gospel’s full power.

> “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” — Revelation 2:7



Repent, Doug, before the day of reckoning comes.

 

[RenewedStrength316]

Sorry this is not for all ....for Israel

[Isa 53:8 KJV] 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

My people is Israel

[Isa 53:11 KJV] 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Justify MANY not ALL

Doug, you think Isaiah 53 is only about Israel? Then why does Paul quote it in Romans 10:16 and apply it to the church?

> “But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?” — Romans 10:16, quoting Isaiah 53:1



So tell me—was Paul wrong to quote Isaiah 53 as the gospel? Was the Holy Spirit wrong to breathe it into his pen? You're cutting the cross out of Scripture and locking it inside a national border. But Isaiah 53 wasn’t written for a flag—it was written for the fallen.

> “All we like sheep have gone astray…” — not just Israel. All.
“The Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” — That’s humanity, Doug. Not just Hebrews.



Even your own proof-text betrays you.

You say “many, not all”? Let’s go deeper.

> “By His knowledge shall My righteous servant justify many…” — Isaiah 53:11
Now match that with Jesus in Matthew 20:28:
“The Son of man came… to give His life a ransom for many.”



So did Christ only ransom Israel?

Paul crushes that lie:

> “Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” — 1 Timothy 2:6



“Many” is the Hebrew idiom for “the masses”—the same way Romans 5:19 says:

> “By the obedience of One shall many be made righteous.”



But a few verses earlier, he says:

> “As by one man's disobedience many were made sinners…” (v. 18–19)



So let’s be clear: “many” in Hebrew usage includes all who are in Adam—and all who come to Christ.

Doug, you’re cherry-picking verses to amputate the global reach of the blood.

You’re not rightly dividing.

You’re mutilating.

 

[RenewedStrength316]

This is said about believing Israel

No, Doug.

Paul—not me—says Hosea isn’t just about Israel.

> “As He saith also in Osee [Hosea], I will call them My people, which were not My people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not My people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.”
— Romans 9:25–26



Paul explicitly applies Hosea to the Gentiles being grafted in. That’s your verse, Doug. That’s your doctrine being shattered.

You say it’s only about “believing Israel”? Then why is Paul using it in a chapter where he’s explaining how Gentiles—"vessels of mercy"—are called into salvation alongside Israel?

> “Even us, whom He hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?” — Romans 9:24



And then—boom—he quotes Hosea.

You’re fighting Paul.
You’re fighting the prophets.
You’re fighting the Holy Spirit.

God always intended to say to the Gentiles:
“You are My people.”


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You ready to throw the next verse in? Try Romans 10:19–20:

> “I was found of them that sought Me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after Me.”



Who’s that?

The Gentiles, Doug. Us.

Your doctrine is breaking because it’s built on sand.

Repent…
before the stone crushes what’s left.

 

[RenewedStrength316]

God always made provision for Gentiles
This says nothing of Christ a ransom for all

Doug, you keep shifting the goalposts.

I give you prophets, you ask for Paul.
I give you Paul, you ask for prophets.
I give you both, and now you want one phrase—"a ransom for all"—in every passage, or you’ll dismiss it.

But Scripture doesn’t serve you, Doug.
You serve it. Or you don’t.

Let’s break this open:


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Malachi 1:11 — “My name shall be great among the Gentiles…”

That’s not a side note. That’s not generic. That’s prophecy—worship, from the Gentiles—because of the name of the Lord.

And what name is that?

> “For there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” — Acts 4:12



Only Jesus—the name of salvation. The name exalted among Gentiles after the cross.
So unless you think Gentiles were offering incense to Yahweh in Malachi’s day, this is clearly prophetic—a cross-shaped, blood-purchased worship breaking out globally.


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Isaiah 49:6 — “That thou mayest be My salvation unto the end of the earth.”

You said “that’s not Christ dying for all.”
Wrong.

Paul quotes this exact verse in Acts 13:47 to justify preaching to Gentiles:

> “For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying,
I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles,
that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.”



Paul didn’t say that verse was just about national Israel.
He said it’s why he preached Jesus to the Gentiles.


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Isaiah 53 — “The iniquity of us all.”

You say it’s just “Israel”?
Then explain this:

> “That He by the grace of God should taste death for every man.” — Hebrews 2:9



Not just many, Doug.
Every. Man.


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If the prophets were only speaking of Israel,
then Paul had no right quoting them to defend Gentile salvation.

But he did.
And he did it constantly.

So either:

1. Paul misused the prophets,


2. or you’ve misunderstood both Paul and the prophets.



Only one of those options ends in repentance.
The other ends in blindness.


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Doug, don’t just believe in the cross.
Let the cross break you.

You keep protecting your doctrine.
But the cross isn’t here to be protected.

It’s here to slay us…
so that Christ can raise us new.

> “Search the Scriptures… they testify of Me.” — John 5:39
Every page bleeds His name.

 

[Doug]

“For God so loved the world…” — John 3:16

But look at this other verse in context...........[Jhn 3:18 KJV] 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.....John 3:16 does not speak of Jesus being a ransom for all..........nothing of the cross......Israel had to believe on his name, that he was their Messiah, the Son of God

 

[Doug]

Doug, you think Isaiah 53 is only about Israel? Then why does Paul quote it in Romans 10:16 and apply it to the church?

> “But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?” — Romans 10:16, quoting Isaiah 53:1

Paul is not talking about the church he is talking about Israel..............[Rom 10:1 KJV] 1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved..........Romans 9 thru 11 is about the believing remnant of Israel who believed the preaching of Jesus and the twelve..................[Rom 11:5 KJV] 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

 

[Doug]

> “All we like sheep have gone astray…” — not just Israel. All.
“The Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” — That’s humanity, Doug. Not just Hebrews.

This is all about the redemption of Israel but Christ thru Paul revealed it is also for us in this dispensation

 

[Doug]

You say “many, not all”? Let’s go deeper.

> “By His knowledge shall My righteous servant justify many…” — Isaiah 53:11
Now match that with Jesus in Matthew 20:28:
“The Son of man came… to give His life a ransom for many.”

The many in all these is Israel

 

[Doug]

So did Christ only ransom Israel?

Paul crushes that lie:

> “Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” — 1 Timothy 2:6

As I said Christ revealed this to Paul .....it was not known before Paul

 

[Doug]

Paul—not me—says Hosea isn’t just about Israel.

> “As He saith also in Osee [Hosea], I will call them My people, which were not My people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not My people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.”
— Romans 9:25–26

[Rom 9:2 KJV] 2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

Romans 9 is about Israel

[Rom 9:24-25 KJV] 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? 25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

Here he is talking about the believing remnant of Israel promised the earthly thousand year kingdom in Acts 10:45 they are the people talked about in Hosea which included Gentiles

[Rom 9:27 KJV] 27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Isiah "ALSO crieth concerning Israel" which means Hosea in Romans 9:25-26 was talking about WHO? NOT the church the body but ISRAEL