The Coming of Christ and the Kingdoms — a Clear Chronology of events.

[IndianaRob]

Revelation Texts shows there are two resurrections. John does not use the exact phrase “second resurrection,” but he makes the contrast very clear by calling the first one blessed and holy, and then showing a later resurrection for the rest of the dead. Let me explain carefully.

In Revelation 20:4–6, John describes the first resurrection. These are the saints who belong to Christ, who are raised and given life to reign with Him for a thousand years. Verse 6 says, “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.” This resurrection is unto life, victory, and blessing.

But then John says in Revelation 20:5, “The rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.” These are those who were not part of the first resurrection. After the thousand years, they are raised, not to reign with Christ, but to stand before the great white throne for judgment (Revelation 20:11–13). This is the second resurrection, though John does not use those exact words. Yet, the very mention of a “first resurrection” in Revelation 20:6 clearly points to a subsequent one. All whose names are not found in the Book of Life are then cast into the lake of fire, which is called the second death (Revelation 20:14–15).

I get it. I used to believe that also but fortunately it’s not true, the truth is much better than that.

To show you that I’m not making this up or interpreting it, I asked Chatgpt if grammatically both verses are about the first resurrection.

Chatgpt response:

Grammatically speaking, yes — in these two verses, the resurrection being referred to is identified as the first resurrection.

• In Revelation 20:5, the statement "This is the first resurrection." directly follows a contrast with "the rest of the dead," implying that the resurrection just mentioned (in verses 4–5a) is being labeled as the first resurrection.
• In Revelation 20:6, "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection..." clearly refers back to the same event.

So, grammatically, both verses refer to the same event as the first resurrection.

To say that one is the first resurrection and the other is the second resurrection, goes completely against what the verse actually says.

 

[LoveYeshua]

I get it. I used to believe that also but fortunately it’s not true, the truth is much better than that.

To show you that I’m not making this up or interpreting it, I asked Chatgpt if grammatically both verses are about the first resurrection.

Chatgpt response:

Grammatically speaking, yes — in these two verses, the resurrection being referred to is identified as the first resurrection.

• In Revelation 20:5, the statement "This is the first resurrection." directly follows a contrast with "the rest of the dead," implying that the resurrection just mentioned (in verses 4–5a) is being labeled as the first resurrection.
• In Revelation 20:6, "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection..." clearly refers back to the same event.

So, grammatically, both verses refer to the same event as the first resurrection.

To say that one is the first resurrection and the other is the second resurrection, goes completely against what the verse actually says.

you cannot rely on AI to interpret or even to understand scripture.

Yes both 20:5 and 20:6 are about the first resurrection as described in 20:4;
"Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." these are the ones taking part of the first resurrection
The proof is in 20:6;
"Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years."

the rest of the dead are judged at the Judgment Before the Great White Throne
as described in;

Rev 20:11 Then ( this is after the millennial Kingdom and the final defeat of satan, see 20:7-10) I saw a great white throne and the One seated on it. Earth and heaven fled from His presence, and no place was found for them.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne. And there were open books, and one of them was the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books.

Rev 20:13 The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds.

Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire.

Rev 20:15 And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

 

[HealthyShape]

you cannot rely on AI to interpret or even to understand scripture.

But AI should be good in identifying things like grammar or structure. Better than many people, actually.

 

[IndianaRob]

you cannot rely on AI to interpret or even to understand scripture.

Yes both 20:5 and 20:6 are about the first resurrection as described in 20:4;
"Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." these are the ones taking part of the first resurrection
The proof is in 20:6;
"Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years."

the rest of the dead are judged at the Judgment Before the Great White Throne
as described in;

Rev 20:11 Then ( this is after the millennial Kingdom and the final defeat of satan, see 20:7-10) I saw a great white throne and the One seated on it. Earth and heaven fled from His presence, and no place was found for them.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne. And there were open books, and one of them was the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books.

Rev 20:13 The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds.

Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire.

Rev 20:15 And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Grammar is grammar and I’ll leave it that.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Grammar is grammar and I’ll leave it that.

ok

 

[Scott Downey]

Passages That Sound Like One Resurrection (all at once)​

• John 5:28–29
  “An hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.”
  Here, Jesus puts both the righteous and the wicked rising in one event.
• Daniel 12:2
  “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
  Again, it sounds like one big resurrection, with two outcomes.
• Acts 24:15
  “…there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust.”
  Paul teaches one resurrection applying to everyone.

Passages That Sound Like Two Resurrections (separated in time)​

• Revelation 20:4–6
  “They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power…”
  Here John describes a first resurrection (for the saints who reign with Christ) and a later resurrection of the rest of the dead.
• 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17
  “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven… and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive… will be caught up together with them…”
  Suggests that believers rise first, before anything else happens.

There is only one resurrection of all dead for all people at the end.
Even though some think it sounds like two.
The first resurrection is Christ
As of this moment only Christ has been resurrected and glorified, no people at all are risen from the grave and glorified yet.
As the resurrection happens on the LAST Day

And we have days left, supposedly until the end.
There was a day last week, yesterday and so on.
Christ has risen in His resurrection BODILY 2000 years ago.

People are resurrected BODILY in their own resurrection on the LAST DAY

We all as believers in Christ are risen with Him in His first resurrection so that we have life, we are alive in Him, Because HE LIVES, we LIVE.

We still have a bodily resurrection at the end, and that is when we get a glorified body like He has.
John 11:24
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

John 20:9
For as yet they did not know the Scripture, that He must rise again from the dead.

So, Christ is the first resurrection and we live and reign with Him in heavenly places, so we have a part in Him now and forever, not just in the future.

This started back when Christ was resurrected, ongoing as believers die, and are added to the lord
And they are in Heaven with Him, never to be separated.

And continues in heaven till the end as more people are added to the kingdom of God. More people reign with Him in heaven, right now today and forever and ever.
Rev 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

 

[IndianaRob]

Passages That Sound Like One Resurrection (all at once)​

• John 5:28–29
  “An hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.”
  Here, Jesus puts both the righteous and the wicked rising in one event.
• Daniel 12:2
  “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
  Again, it sounds like one big resurrection, with two outcomes.
• Acts 24:15
  “…there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust.”
  Paul teaches one resurrection applying to everyone.

Passages That Sound Like Two Resurrections (separated in time)​

• Revelation 20:4–6
  “They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power…”
  Here John describes a first resurrection (for the saints who reign with Christ) and a later resurrection of the rest of the dead.
• 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17
  “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven… and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive… will be caught up together with them…”
  Suggests that believers rise first, before anything else happens.

There is only one resurrection of all dead for all people at the end.
Even though some think it sounds like two.
The first resurrection is Christ
As of this moment only Christ has been resurrected and glorified, no people at all are risen from the grave and glorified yet.
As the resurrection happens on the LAST Day

And we have days left, supposedly until the end.
There was a day last week, yesterday and so on.
Christ has risen in His resurrection BODILY 2000 years ago.

People are resurrected BODILY in their own resurrection on the LAST DAY

We all as believers in Christ are risen with Him in His first resurrection so that we have life, we are alive in Him, Because HE LIVES, we LIVE.

We still have a bodily resurrection at the end, and that is when we get a glorified body like He has.
John 11:24
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

John 20:9
For as yet they did not know the Scripture, that He must rise again from the dead.

The resurrection happens on the last day of what Scott?

 

[LoveYeshua]

But AI should be good in identifying things like grammar or structure. Better than many people, actually.

yes and no try text analysis it shall give better result. AI cannot truly understand context properly.

let me try something about the first resurrection in 20:5 and I will gt back to you.

 

[LoveYeshua]

But AI should be good in identifying things like grammar or structure. Better than many people, actually.

ME asking chat gpt:"do a text analysis on "first resurrection " in rev 20:5 and tell me if it is about 20:4"

ChatGPT said:​

Let’s carefully read Revelation 20:4–6 (NKJV):

Revelation 20:4 – And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Revelation 20:5 – But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:6 – Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

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Text analysis​

1. Grammatical flow
   • Verse 4 describes the souls of the faithful martyrs who refused the beast and his mark. John says “they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”
   • Verse 5 interrupts with a contrast: “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.” This clearly sets up two groups:
     • Those in verse 4, who live and reign with Christ at the start of the thousand years.
     • The rest of the dead, who do not live again until after the thousand years.
   • The sentence “This is the first resurrection” directly follows verse 5, but grammatically and contextually it points back to verse 4—the living and reigning of the faithful—because the “rest of the dead” are excluded from it.
2. Meaning of “first resurrection”
   • “First” is used in contrast to the later raising of the rest of the dead in verse 5 (which happens after the thousand years).
   • The “resurrection” here is not applied to the wicked but to the righteous who reign with Christ.
3. Verse 6 confirms the link
   • It says, “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection … they shall reign with Him a thousand years.” This matches perfectly with verse 4, showing that the “first resurrection” refers to those faithful ones who are raised to life at the beginning of the millennium.

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Conclusion:
The phrase “This is the first resurrection” in Revelation 20:5 is not about the “rest of the dead” but about the group described in verse 4. The structure is: verse 4 (the faithful live and reign), verse 5a (contrast: the rest of the dead wait), verse 5b (statement: the first resurrection is what was just described in verse 4).
Would you like me to also trace how the term “first resurrection” is unique to Revelation 20 and how John uses it to separate the righteous from the wicked across the thousand years?

 

[Scott Downey]

The resurrection happens on the last day of what Scott?

This is the Last Day of this world

in scripture what is the last day

ChatGPT said:​

Good question — the “last day” is an important phrase in Scripture, especially in the New Testament. Let’s look carefully at what it means.

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Jesus’ Teachings About the “Last Day”​

• John 6:39–40
  “…this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
• John 6:44
  “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.”
• John 6:54
  “Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

In these verses, the “last day” = the resurrection of believers, the day Christ raises the faithful to eternal life.

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Judgment on the Last Day​

• John 11:24 (Martha about Lazarus)
  “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.”
• John 12:48
  “The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.”

So the “last day” also = the day of judgment for unbelievers.

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The Broader Biblical Picture​

• Daniel 12:2
  “…many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
  Same “last day” event: resurrection + judgment.
• 2 Peter 3:10
  “The day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved…”
  The “day of the Lord” overlaps with what Jesus called the “last day”: final judgment and renewal of creation.
• Revelation 20:11–15
  Describes the Great White Throne Judgment — the final judgment of all people.

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Summary​

The “last day” in Scripture refers to:

1. The resurrection of the dead (John 6, John 11).
2. The final judgment (John 12, Revelation 20).
3. The consummation of history — when Christ returns, the old creation passes away, and God makes all things new (2 Peter 3, Revelation 21).

So, the “last day” = the end of this present age, when Christ raises the dead and judges all humanity.

 

[IndianaRob]

ME asking chat gpt:"do a text analysis on "first resurrection " in rev 20:5 and tell me if it is about 20:4"

ChatGPT said:​

Let’s carefully read Revelation 20:4–6 (NKJV):

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Text analysis​

1. Grammatical flow
   • Verse 4 describes the souls of the faithful martyrs who refused the beast and his mark. John says “they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”
   • Verse 5 interrupts with a contrast: “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.”This clearly sets up two groups:
     • Those in verse 4, who live and reign with Christ at the start of the thousand years.
     • The rest of the dead, who do not live again until after the thousand years.
   • The sentence “This is the first resurrection” directly follows verse 5, but grammatically and contextually it points back to verse 4—the living and reigning of the faithful—because the “rest of the dead” are excluded from it.
2. Meaning of “first resurrection”
   • “First” is used in contrast to the later raising of the rest of the dead in verse 5 (which happens after the thousand years).
   • The “resurrection” here is not applied to the wicked but to the righteous who reign with Christ.
3. Verse 6 confirms the link
   • It says, “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection … they shall reign with Him a thousand years.” This matches perfectly with verse 4, showing that the “first resurrection” refers to those faithful ones who are raised to life at the beginning of the millennium.

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Conclusion:
The phrase “This is the first resurrection” in Revelation 20:5 is not about the “rest of the dead” but about the group described in verse 4. The structure is: verse 4 (the faithful live and reign), verse 5a (contrast: the rest of the dead wait), verse 5b (statement: the first resurrection is what was just described in verse 4).
Would you like me to also trace how the term “first resurrection” is unique to Revelation 20 and how John uses it to separate the righteous from the wicked across the thousand years?

If your going to do that, you have to tell the ai to give answer based on grammar alone, no commentary allowed. You also have to tell it which translation to use because translation wording differs one to another.

Other wise Chatgpt is going to give the commentary slant in its answer.

 

[IndianaRob]

This is the Last Day of this world

in scripture what is the last day

ChatGPT said:​

Good question — the “last day” is an important phrase in Scripture, especially in the New Testament. Let’s look carefully at what it means.

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Jesus’ Teachings About the “Last Day”​

• John 6:39–40
  “…this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
• John 6:44
  “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.”
• John 6:54
  “Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

In these verses, the “last day” = the resurrection of believers, the day Christ raises the faithful to eternal life.

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Judgment on the Last Day​

• John 11:24 (Martha about Lazarus)
  “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.”
• John 12:48
  “The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.”

So the “last day” also = the day of judgment for unbelievers.

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The Broader Biblical Picture​

• Daniel 12:2
  “…many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
  Same “last day” event: resurrection + judgment.
• 2 Peter 3:10
  “The day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved…”
  The “day of the Lord” overlaps with what Jesus called the “last day”: final judgment and renewal of creation.
• Revelation 20:11–15
  Describes the Great White Throne Judgment — the final judgment of all people.

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Summary​

The “last day” in Scripture refers to:

1. The resurrection of the dead (John 6, John 11).
2. The final judgment (John 12, Revelation 20).
3. The consummation of history — when Christ returns, the old creation passes away, and God makes all things new (2 Peter 3, Revelation 21).

So, the “last day” = the end of this present age, when Christ raises the dead and judges all humanity.

Or the last day means the last day of Jesus in the heart of the earth, resurrection day. The day when all sins, past and present, were forgiven and all who believe in him were raised to eternal life.

 

[LoveYeshua]

I tough about text analysis from my french lessons a long time ago, we had to do this on many different difficult texts to understand properly the context, this is a standard method that helps with text comprehension.

 

[IndianaRob]

I tough about text analysis from my french lessons a long time ago, we had to do this on many different difficult texts to understand properly the context, this is a standard method that helps with text comprehension.

Ai is always going to give the consensus view on any question. Trying asking it if Covid vaccines are safe and effective. It has the data to tell you no it’s not, but it will only give you the consensus answer.

 

[HealthyShape]

ME asking chat gpt:"do a text analysis on "first resurrection " in rev 20:5 and tell me if it is about 20:4"

ChatGPT said:​

Let’s carefully read Revelation 20:4–6 (NKJV):

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Text analysis​

1. Grammatical flow
   • Verse 4 describes the souls of the faithful martyrs who refused the beast and his mark. John says “they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”
   • Verse 5 interrupts with a contrast: “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.”This clearly sets up two groups:
     • Those in verse 4, who live and reign with Christ at the start of the thousand years.
     • The rest of the dead, who do not live again until after the thousand years.
   • The sentence “This is the first resurrection” directly follows verse 5, but grammatically and contextually it points back to verse 4—the living and reigning of the faithful—because the “rest of the dead” are excluded from it.
2. Meaning of “first resurrection”
   • “First” is used in contrast to the later raising of the rest of the dead in verse 5 (which happens after the thousand years).
   • The “resurrection” here is not applied to the wicked but to the righteous who reign with Christ.
3. Verse 6 confirms the link
   • It says, “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection … they shall reign with Him a thousand years.” This matches perfectly with verse 4, showing that the “first resurrection” refers to those faithful ones who are raised to life at the beginning of the millennium.

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Conclusion:
The phrase “This is the first resurrection” in Revelation 20:5 is not about the “rest of the dead” but about the group described in verse 4. The structure is: verse 4 (the faithful live and reign), verse 5a (contrast: the rest of the dead wait), verse 5b (statement: the first resurrection is what was just described in verse 4).
Would you like me to also trace how the term “first resurrection” is unique to Revelation 20 and how John uses it to separate the righteous from the wicked across the thousand years?

I am not too interested in the book of Revelation. It is an obscure book and everybody interprets it differently. Its "canonicity" was still disputed as late as in the 4th century.

I personally think that, the 99% of it happened in the 1st century, with potentially the 1,000 years beginning in the first century, but spanning across some longer period. But I am not trying to explain all the verses in it. It would be futile with so much ancient symbolism and metaphors and with incomplete historical records.

 

[LoveYeshua]

If your going to do that, you have to tell the ai to give answer based on grammar alone, no commentary allowed. You also have to tell it which translation to use because translation wording differs one to another.

Other wise Chatgpt is going to give the commentary slant in its answer.

I have put rules in chat gpt already to not use commentaries but biblical texts only and I agree no commentaries should be used. i will check

Alright, let’s keep it only within the NKJV text itself, no commentaries, just what is written.

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Q: do a text analysis on "first resurrection " in rev 20:5 and tell me if it is about 20:4 BUT do NOT usa any bible commentaries and Only texts in the NKJV​

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Step 1 – Read the full passage (Revelation 20:4–6 NKJV)​

• 20:4 – “And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”
• 20:5 – “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.”
• 20:6 – “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.”

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Step 2 – Connect the words​

• Verse 4 speaks about certain faithful people: they were killed for their witness, they refused the beast, and they “lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”
• Verse 5a makes a contrast: “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.” That means only the group in verse 4 lived at the beginning of the thousand years.
• Verse 5b then says: “This is the first resurrection.”

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Step 3 – Compare with verse 6​

Verse 6 gives the blessing of the “first resurrection”:

• “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection.”
• “… they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.”

That language is the same as verse 4 (“they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years”).

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Step 4 – Textual conclusion​

The phrase “This is the first resurrection” (20:5) refers back to the group in verse 4 who lived and reigned with Christ. Verse 5 first points out that the rest of the dead did not live at that time, then immediately identifies what just happened in verse 4 as “the first resurrection.” Verse 6 confirms this by repeating the same reign-with-Christ description.

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Would you like me to now rewrite this analysis into one continuous simple text (without numbered steps) so it reads smoothly, the way you usually like it finalized?

 

[LoveYeshua]

now show me what came out differently is the conclusion changed?

ChatGPT said:​

Good question — let’s compare.
In both the first answer I gave you and the second one (where I used only NKJV text, no commentaries), the conclusion did not change.

• First analysis (with some explanation): I said the “first resurrection” in Revelation 20:5 points back to verse 4, to the ones who lived and reigned with Christ, not to the rest of the dead.
• Second analysis (only NKJV text): I reached the same conclusion, showing from the flow of verses 4–6 that “first resurrection” clearly refers to those in verse 4 who lived and reigned with Christ, since verse 6 repeats their description.

What came out differently:
The wording was a bit different. The first answer used some explanatory notes about grammar and contrast; the second answer only used NKJV text and direct comparison. But in both cases the meaning is the same: the “first resurrection” is about the faithful in verse 4, not about the rest of the dead.
Would you like me to now merge both into one finalized smooth explanation (in simple continuous text, no steps) so you have a single clean version?

 

[Scott Downey]

ME asking chat gpt:"do a text analysis on "first resurrection " in rev 20:5 and tell me if it is about 20:4"

ChatGPT said:​

Let’s carefully read Revelation 20:4–6 (NKJV):

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Text analysis​

1. Grammatical flow
   • Verse 4 describes the souls of the faithful martyrs who refused the beast and his mark. John says “they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”
   • Verse 5 interrupts with a contrast: “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.”This clearly sets up two groups:
     • Those in verse 4, who live and reign with Christ at the start of the thousand years.
     • The rest of the dead, who do not live again until after the thousand years.
   • The sentence “This is the first resurrection” directly follows verse 5, but grammatically and contextually it points back to verse 4—the living and reigning of the faithful—because the “rest of the dead” are excluded from it.
2. Meaning of “first resurrection”
   • “First” is used in contrast to the later raising of the rest of the dead in verse 5 (which happens after the thousand years).
   • The “resurrection” here is not applied to the wicked but to the righteous who reign with Christ.
3. Verse 6 confirms the link
   • It says, “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection … they shall reign with Him a thousand years.” This matches perfectly with verse 4, showing that the “first resurrection” refers to those faithful ones who are raised to life at the beginning of the millennium.

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Conclusion:
The phrase “This is the first resurrection” in Revelation 20:5 is not about the “rest of the dead” but about the group described in verse 4. The structure is: verse 4 (the faithful live and reign), verse 5a (contrast: the rest of the dead wait), verse 5b (statement: the first resurrection is what was just described in verse 4).
Would you like me to also trace how the term “first resurrection” is unique to Revelation 20 and how John uses it to separate the righteous from the wicked across the thousand years?

Of course they are different groups, one is the saints of God, they live and reign with Christ, it does not say they live again as they live, they have passed from death into life when the believed, as John 5 says.

They live RIGHT NOW in Christ and are with Him at their physical death in Heaven where this reigning takes place,

The others do not live again until the resurrection of all physically dead humans. Then they are judged. Meanwhile they are in hell if their bodies perish, and abide in death. They do not possess eternal life and how could they?

 

[Scott Downey]

Make the connections.
Kings, priests, reigning, second death, those who have their part in the first resurrection, all of that is for all saved believers.
Regardless of 1000 years considerations.


Revelation 1
John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:

Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.

To Him who [b]loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us [c]kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

What do these kings and priests do? They minister to GOD the Father IN HEAVEN, not on the earth
Who are these Kings and Priests? Christ's people who are saved.

Revelation 2:11
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.” ’

Revelation 20
6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

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[rwb]

many here are incredibly confused, Revelation shows that the complete destruction of the present heavens and earth and the making of the new heaven and earth happens after the thousand–year reign of Christ, not at the moment of His second coming.

Here’s how it unfolds in Revelation:

• When Christ returns (Revelation 19:11–16), He defeats the nations and the beast, and then the devil is bound for a thousand years (Revelation 20:1–3).
• During this thousand–year period, called the Millennial Kingdom, the saints live and reign with Christ (Revelation 20:4–6).
• After the thousand years, Satan is released, makes one last rebellion, but is destroyed and cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:7–10).
• Then comes the Great White Throne judgment, where the dead are judged, and death and Hades are also cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11–15).
• Only after this do we see the old heaven and earth passing away and the new heaven and new earth appearing (Revelation 21:1).

So in Revelation, the destruction of the present earth and heavens is shown as happening after the Millennium.

But in 2 Peter 3:10–13, Peter does not mention the thousand years—he compresses the whole picture into one sweeping vision of the day of the Lord, where the present order is destroyed and the new one begins. He is stressing the end result, not the order of events.

So both Peter and John are describing the same ultimate truth—that the heavens and earth we know will not last and God will make all things new—but Revelation gives more detail about the thousand–year reign that takes place before the final renewal.

this is what I am trying to explain but no one listens, the full sequence in proprer order is in revelations!.

Why should anyone listen to you "trying" (and I emphasize trying) to explain your doctrine AGAIN? Posting the same thing again and again does not change the error of your opinions! Instead of re-posting the same thing again, why don't you answer the questions presented to you in this thread? I suspect you don't answer because your doctrines cannot be biblically supported because they are based on either what you have been taught or what you think might support your conclusions.