Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?

[pandaflower]

--- Parody ---

At the Rainbow Florist.

Christian customer: I need a dozen roses.
Rainbow Florist: Sorry, we don't serve your kind.
Christian customer: Say what?
Rainbow Florist: You're wearing a MAGA cap and a Jesus T-Shirt.
Christian customer: That's not a crime!
Rainbow Florist: It should be.
Christian customer: So, you are refusing me service because I am a Republican Christian?
Rainbow Florist: It's my store. I choose who we do business with.
Christian customer: That's discrimination.
Rainbow Florist: Welcome to my world.
Christian customer: When have you been discriminated against?
Rainbow Florist: When I tried to enter a church wearing a rainbow T-Shirt.



--- Parody ---

At the Rainbow Florist. Act 2

Christian customer: I need a dozen roses.
Rainbow Florist: Sorry, we don't serve your kind.
Christian customer: Say what?
Rainbow Florist: You're wearing a MAGA cap and a Jesus T-Shirt.
Christian customer: Does that offend you?
Rainbow Florist: Absolutely! It's my store. I choose who we do business with.
Christian customer: Fair enough.
Rainbow Florist: Say what?
Christian customer: I want you to know that I don't hate you, and neither does Jesus.
Rainbow Florist: Say what?
Christian customer: I'll change my cap and T-Shirt and pay double for the roses.
Rainbow Florist: Are you for real?
Christian customer: I'll be right back. I need white roses, thanks.

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Parody 2 is an insult to the Gospel. It's also a fool apologizing for everything Jesus taught and died to seal for eternity.



Parody 1 is scripture.
Here's why.
A homosexual that enters a church wearing a gay pride tee shirt is levying an insult first toward all Christians everywhere.

The rainbow was stolen by proponents that are the abomination that is condemned in scripture. Homosexuality.

They're proud to strut behind the rainbow that God put in the sky after drowning the world for its sins.
They strutt proudly displaying their sins mocking the rainbow legacy of God's judgement.
The only reason they don't use a block of salt carved to resemble a naked man,to mock Sodom and Gomorrah,is due to resiliency issues in incliment weather.

If you want to see reality,look at the way a street preacher is treated at gay pride events.

 

[Cross8527]

If it would bring unity yes I would give up on my own beliefs, but unity is possible even if we disagree on things
But one issue I have found is that most are not willing to consider they may be wrong in their understanding and beliefs everyone is right in their own minds and so we have many Christian scholars or teachers but very few students and very few who have the ability to learn from others because of doctrinal certainty refusing to budge and consider they may be wrong

 

[pandaflower]

You know what hasn't been elaborated upon here?

If we all agree to give up our personal beliefs for the sake of unity,what do we all then agree to believe in order to be unified?

 

[Cross8527]

You know what hasn't been elaborated upon here?

If we all agree to give up our personal beliefs for the sake of unity,what do we all then agree to believe in order to be unified?

Well to be fair even the original church had issues like this so never in history has the entire church been in one accord on doctrine

So I would say best case we agree to disagree and agree to agree, the basics of salvation is pretty simple a good starting point as long as you don't over think it and turn it into a debate

 

[quietthinker]

You know what hasn't been elaborated upon here?

If we all agree to give up our personal beliefs for the sake of unity,what do we all then agree to believe in order to be unified?

What a person is persuaded of today is not necessarily what they are persuaded of in a month's time.
Take Mr Trump as an example constantly shifting the goal posts.
Many marriages follow this pattern.

In a fallen world with unregenerate minds, what appears as unity today can become cause for division tomorrow.

My guess is that there will be an attempt down the track to legislate 'unity' to control the escalating divisions globally.
Could it be that a religio/ political player is in the process of arising?

 

[St. SteVen]

Parody 2 is an insult to the Gospel. It's also a fool apologizing for everything Jesus taught and died to seal for eternity.

No, not at all.

The world is blown away when we demonstrate the love of Christ to them, a sacrificial love.

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[St. SteVen]

If you want to see reality,look at the way a street preacher is treated at gay pride events.

But what is your response? Love or hate?

In that video, I think the street preacher is wrong.
Why would you defend him?

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[St. SteVen]

If it would bring unity yes I would give up on my own beliefs,

Is doctrinal unity really so important to you that you would surrender your beliefs?
Seems to be a HUGE price to pay. Is it worth it?

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[Marvelloustime]

And if examine where this push has led
we will see exactly who is accepted and who it has pushed OUT the door .
More and more sins are now accepted , Even UNBELEIF is now being accepted .
JESUS and the sheep who wont conform , NOT ACCEPTED , called haters . THIS IS GONNA explode much worse too .
For us sheep we shall not conform . But it will cost us and some even their own lives .
But it has been so since even the days of paul and others . The hour of our betrayal draws nigh .
And it wont just be words either . f ear it not . fear not man .
We stand on CHRIST and the sheep shall HEED and FOLLOW HIM . HE WILL BE WITH US
as HE was always and has always been with HIS OWN through all times .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

always remember that a little leaven can and will LEAVEN the whole lump .
SO here is what i say to compromise . NO DEAL . Wont be done on this sheeps watch . HOPE you say the same my friend .
WE dont compromise the HOLY words OF THE LORD . we simply love and embrace and beleive the TRUTH .
Now mount up and put on the battle boots and strap on all armour
cause the hour is late and its time to do what we can while we can , in hopes that at least some will hear and repent and believe
and if in error will recieve the correction which is meant for their good and not their destuction .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

And if examine where this push has led
we will see exactly who is accepted and who it has pushed OUT the door .
More and more sins are now accepted , Even UNBELEIF is now being accepted .
JESUS and the sheep who wont conform , NOT ACCEPTED , called haters . THIS IS GONNA explode much worse too .
For us sheep we shall not conform . But it will cost us and some even their own lives .
But it has been so since even the days of paul and others . The hour of our betrayal draws nigh .
And it wont just be words either . f ear it not . fear not man .
We stand on CHRIST and the sheep shall HEED and FOLLOW HIM . HE WILL BE WITH US
as HE was always and has always been with HIS OWN through all times .

@amigo de christo

 

[LoveYeshua]

It seems this way for lot's of Christians no. And, having just moved out of state, it's even more difficult as it's hard to enter a church alone. But I have a few Christian friends here who will help me through it eventually, I hope! Lol. Most of the new churches hold not a thing for me, I starve spiritually and fellowship is a thing of the past for the most part
We keep praying until we see a breakthrough and
The Lord will place us where He sees fit. Or, maybe He has something all together different in mind...home church meetings/bible study/prayer...?

I used to think also I was alone but we are Not alone Nancy. Christ Clearly said and I can tell you it is perfectly accurate, all of it:

Jhn 14:16 (KJV) "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

These words gave me great hope and comfort, I hope they do the same for you.
I do believe also the lord has plans for us and he will lead us in the right place at the right time.

Blessings.

 

[pandaflower]

But what is your response? Love or hate?

In that video, I think the street preacher is wrong.
Why would you defend him?

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Why were they wrong?

 

[pandaflower]

No, not at all.

The world is blown away when we demonstrate the love of Christ to them, a sacrificial love.

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It's love to concede a people have every right to choose damnation?

Well,no wonder parody 2 bought them flowers. And,ironically at twice their price.

Huge message there. Huge.

 

[St. SteVen]

Why were they wrong?

He was building walls, not bridges.
No attempt was made to understand the other person.
He only wanted to fight. Displaying self-righteousness.
His mind was made up. He didn't want to hear the other side.

Everything changes when you reject the doctrine of a forever-burning hell.

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[pandaflower]

He was building walls, not bridges.
No attempt was made to understand the other person.
He only wanted to fight. Displaying self-righteousness.
His mind was made up. He didn't want to hear the other side.

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Did you hear the other side?

Was she correct?

 

[St. SteVen]

Did you hear the other side?

Was she correct?

From my perspective, it's not about who's right and wrong.
Both sides should have a voice.

If he had stopped screaming apologetics at her, they could have had a peaceful conversation.
Her gospel was centered on the two greatest commandments given by Christ.
Was that wrong?

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[St. SteVen]

From my perspective, it's not about who's right and wrong.
Both sides should have a voice.

I took a lot of heat because of my LGBT topics.

WWJD with LGBTQ?

Christians tend to treat LGBTQ as if it is a singular thing. It's not. It's a very complex subject that the church has, for the most part, swept under the rug. Those who have stepped up to be inclusive have taken the heat for it. And there is even a broad spectrum of how inclusion can play out...

www.christianityboard.com

Unethical treatment of LGBTQ humans / Understanding LGBTQ - 101

I'm still trying to help Christians understand this COMPLEX issue that they have reduced to a knee-jerk reaction. Notice the term "LGBTQ humans" in the topic title. I need to remind Christians that these people are human. - Sigh. :( Because they are typically treated by Christians as subhuman...

www.christianityboard.com

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[pandaflower]

From my perspective, it's not about who's right and wrong.
Both sides should have a voice.

If he had stopped screaming apologetics at her, they could have had a peaceful conversation.
Her gospel was centered on the two greatest commandments given by Christ.
Was that wrong?

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Where did Christ say,love is love?

 

[St. SteVen]

Where did Christ say,love is love?

Google it. - LOL

Never, to my knowledge.

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