just thinking what's your input

[The Learner]

If the DNA of all in the world was put in a database that Law Enforcement, Doctors, Univeristy researchers has access to. When a crime is committed with DNA is left behind. Police would be able to identifly them for quick arrest.

 

[PS95]

If the DNA of all in the world was put in a database that Law Enforcement, Doctors, Univeristy researchers has access to. When a crime is committed with DNA is left behind. Police would be able to identifly them for quick arrest.

we do not want that but that is their goal.
Scientists genetically engineer viruses to target specific DNA sequences in cells, which can be used for purposes like gene therapy or cancer treatment.
That can be used for good or evil.

 

[marks]

If the DNA of all in the world was put in a database that Law Enforcement, Doctors, Univeristy researchers has access to. When a crime is committed with DNA is left behind. Police would be able to identifly them for quick arrest.

It's an interesting question. With the police this seems like an obvious thing, like you say, quick ID of suspects.

I'm more leary of doctors and researchers having access to something like that, it seems more likely for misuse. The whole thing makes me nervous, mostly I think because I've always been very careful with my personal information, and I'm continually astounded by the inventiveness of criminals in subverting things that seemed innocent enough.

Much love!

 

[The Learner]

I am concerned insurance companies gaining access.

 

[Exegesis]

If the DNA of all in the world was put in a database that Law Enforcement, Doctors, Univeristy researchers has access to. When a crime is committed with DNA is left behind. Police would be able to identifly them for quick arrest.

That's some good sarcasm.

The 'system' is designed to protect the criminals.

 

[PS95]

If the DNA of all in the world was put in a database that Law Enforcement, Doctors, Univeristy researchers has access to. When a crime is committed with DNA is left behind. Police would be able to identifly them for quick arrest.

Just the other day I was reading about a senator or congressmen speaking to the owner of people's DNA (23 & me?) where they are selling the company along with all of the clients.
The senator asked if a person can delete their DNA from their site before they sell it all. He said YES.,
Then the senator said--- in the fine print it says that you can delete your account and no longer have access, but your DNA info is theirs.

So- yeah they can be trusted..I have always known this was a bad idea. I've tried to talk people out of it- but that made them upset.

 

[pandaflower]

It would be a huge violation of privacy.

 

[The Learner]

That's some good sarcasm.

The 'system' is designed to protect the criminals.

True

 

[The Learner]

It would be a huge violation of privacy.

No it is not a violation of privacy because much information about us is collected. Also, the database is not open to the public.

A violation of privacy occurs when an individual's personal information or private life is accessed, used, or disclosed without their consent. This can happen in various contexts, including:

Types of Privacy Violations:

• Data Breaches: Unauthorized access to personal data, often through hacking.
• Surveillance: Monitoring individuals without their knowledge or consent, such as through cameras or tracking devices.
• Invasive Marketing: Collecting and using personal information for targeted advertising without permission.
• Social Media Misuse: Sharing private information or images without consent.

Legal Context:

• Privacy laws vary by jurisdiction but generally protect individuals from unauthorized use of their personal information.
• Common legal frameworks include data protection regulations like the GDPR in Europe and various state laws in the U.S.

Consequences:

• Emotional distress, loss of trust, and potential financial harm can result from privacy violations.
• Legal repercussions may include fines or lawsuits against the offending party.

Understanding privacy violations is crucial in today's digital age, where personal information is often shared and stored online.

Dna database does not fall under that understanding.

Many countries around the world have national forensic DNA databases, with the United States, the United Kingdom, and China possessing the largest ones. Other countries like Germany, the Netherlands, and Finland also maintain them, often sharing data through systems like the INTERPOL DNA Gateway. However, the legal criteria for including DNA profiles and the overall size and scope of these databases vary significantly between nations due to differing national laws and privacy concerns.
Examples of countries with DNA databases:
United States: Operates the national Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), which includes national, state, and local databases.
United Kingdom: The world's first country to establish a national DNA database in 1995, known as the National DNA Database (NDNAD).
China: Has one of the largest DNA databases globally.
Other European Countries: Includes Germany, the Netherlands, Finland, Austria, and others, which have established their own national DNA databases.
Global Participation:
INTERPOL: The INTERPOL DNA Gateway platform facilitates the exchange of DNA data, with many of its member countries participating in the system.
Growing Trend: The number of countries operating forensic DNA databases has grown exponentially since the 1990s, with more nations continuously establishing or expanding their databases.
Variations in Databases:
Legal Frameworks: The criteria for including DNA profiles—such as whether only convicted offenders or suspects of any crime are included—differ significantly by country.
Scope: Some countries have expansive legislation allowing broad inclusion, while others have more restrictive rules, often influenced by legal challenges and varying interpretations of human rights.
Purpose: While some databases primarily focus on criminal investigations, others also have specialized functions, such as managing databases for missing persons.

 

[pandaflower]

No it is not a violation of privacy because much information about us is collected. Also, the database is not open to the public.

A violation of privacy occurs when an individual's personal information or private life is accessed, used, or disclosed without their consent. This can happen in various contexts, including:

Types of Privacy Violations:

• Data Breaches: Unauthorized access to personal data, often through hacking.
• Surveillance: Monitoring individuals without their knowledge or consent, such as through cameras or tracking devices.
• Invasive Marketing: Collecting and using personal information for targeted advertising without permission.
• Social Media Misuse: Sharing private information or images without consent.

Legal Context:

• Privacy laws vary by jurisdiction but generally protect individuals from unauthorized use of their personal information.
• Common legal frameworks include data protection regulations like the GDPR in Europe and various state laws in the U.S.

Consequences:

• Emotional distress, loss of trust, and potential financial harm can result from privacy violations.
• Legal repercussions may include fines or lawsuits against the offending party.

Understanding privacy violations is crucial in today's digital age, where personal information is often shared and stored online.

Dna database does not fall under that understanding.

Many countries around the world have national forensic DNA databases, with the United States, the United Kingdom, and China possessing the largest ones. Other countries like Germany, the Netherlands, and Finland also maintain them, often sharing data through systems like the INTERPOL DNA Gateway. However, the legal criteria for including DNA profiles and the overall size and scope of these databases vary significantly between nations due to differing national laws and privacy concerns.
Examples of countries with DNA databases:
United States: Operates the national Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), which includes national, state, and local databases.
United Kingdom: The world's first country to establish a national DNA database in 1995, known as the National DNA Database (NDNAD).
China: Has one of the largest DNA databases globally.
Other European Countries: Includes Germany, the Netherlands, Finland, Austria, and others, which have established their own national DNA databases.
Global Participation:
INTERPOL: The INTERPOL DNA Gateway platform facilitates the exchange of DNA data, with many of its member countries participating in the system.
Growing Trend: The number of countries operating forensic DNA databases has grown exponentially since the 1990s, with more nations continuously establishing or expanding their databases.
Variations in Databases:
Legal Frameworks: The criteria for including DNA profiles—such as whether only convicted offenders or suspects of any crime are included—differ significantly by country.
Scope: Some countries have expansive legislation allowing broad inclusion, while others have more restrictive rules, often influenced by legal challenges and varying interpretations of human rights.
Purpose: While some databases primarily focus on criminal investigations, others also have specialized functions, such as managing databases for missing persons.

There's nothing more private than your DNA.
It contains the genetic instructions for development, functioning, growth, and reproduction of our self.

 

[bdavidc]

If the DNA of all in the world was put in a database that Law Enforcement, Doctors, Univeristy researchers has access to. When a crime is committed with DNA is left behind. Police would be able to identifly them for quick arrest.

Proverbs 28: 1: “The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.” It is good to see criminals punished (Romans 13:3–4 says governments are instituted by God to punish evildoers), but a system which gives governments or elites complete access to every person’s DNA goes far beyond justice, it sets the stage for control. Not a good idea!

 

[pandaflower]

Proverbs 28: 1: “The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.” It is good to see criminals punished (Romans 13:3–4 says governments are instituted by God to punish evildoers), but a system which gives governments or elites complete access to every person’s DNA goes far beyond justice, it sets the stage for control. Not a good idea!

Right now law enforcement agencies around the country are aware of,and some are utilizing, familial DNA to solve homicide cases.

When they don't have a match for a suspects DNA in the CODIS database they resort to trying to find a match through family members DNA.

How do they get that? Through the various DNA collection companies operating throughout America. Genealogy websites,etc...

Since that's now a thing in law enforcement it wouldn't surprise me if sooner than we think there will be an effort underway wherein we have to submit our DNA as part of a federal contrived " personal security" system.


After all , as of May 7th if we are 18y.o +, we can't board commercial flights unless we have the Federal Real ID.
A State driver license won't cut it anymore.

Eventually that Federal ID system could require we add our retinal scan and/or our DNA to be filed.

And being a Real ID could be.lost or counterfeited, who's to say a biochip implant wouldn't offer a "foolproof" protection against identity theft?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160791X23001008

Once some beaurocrat thinks collecting citizen DNA is a good idea for national security,where would it stop?

 

[Stumpmaster]

If the DNA of all in the world was put in a database that Law Enforcement, Doctors, Univeristy researchers has access to. When a crime is committed with DNA is left behind. Police would be able to identifly them for quick arrest.

There’s a real-world company called Identifly that specializes in Identity and Access Management (IAM) in cybersecurity. In that context:
• Identifly is a brand name implying secure, agile identity systems.
• It suggests enabling users to “fly” through digital systems safely once their identity is verified

 

[Wick Stick]

It's an interesting question. With the police this seems like an obvious thing, like you say, quick ID of suspects.

I'm more leary of doctors and researchers having access to something like that, it seems more likely for misuse. The whole thing makes me nervous, mostly I think because I've always been very careful with my personal information, and I'm continually astounded by the inventiveness of criminals in subverting things that seemed innocent enough.

Much love!

This - biometric security (based on fingerprints or eyeball scans) has been a disaster so far. When someone steals your fingerprints or retinal scan, how do you change them? You can't

 

[Muna]

Always seems to be under the pretense of some sort of security

 

[bdavidc]

Once some beaurocrat thinks collecting citizen DNA is a good idea for national security,where would it stop?

I’m in favor of arresting criminals and murderers by all means. If DNA is going to help crack cold cases and bring justice, then so be it.

It paves the way for biological weapons that are designed to attack specific groups of people based on their genetic traits. That’s no longer science fiction, it’s possible with this kind of data.

And worst of all, it paves the way for end-time style control. Imagine a system where your DNA, or a biochip linked to your DNA, is what determines if you can buy, sell, travel, or even access healthcare. Revelation 13 paints a picture of a world where no one can buy or sell without the “mark.” That prophecy becomes completely plausible with a system like this.

It may begin under the guise of “safety” and “national security,” but once it’s in place the control will only increase. That’s where the danger is.

 

[pandaflower]

I’m in favor of arresting criminals and murderers by all means. If DNA is going to help crack cold cases and bring justice, then so be it.

It be it already.
The question is,where does that stop?

Right after 9-11 when the 300 page+ U.S Patriot Act passed into law days later, meaning it was drafted well before the 11th, some were of the same indifferent to privacy violations mind set.

As long as they were made to feel safe,they were OK with losing rights and freedoms.

It paves the way for biological weapons that are designed to attack specific groups of people based on their genetic traits. That’s no longer science fiction, it’s possible with this kind of data.

And worst of all, it paves the way for end-time style control. Imagine a system where your DNA, or a biochip linked to your DNA, is what determines if you can buy, sell, travel, or even access healthcare. Revelation 13 paints a picture of a world where no one can buy or sell without the “mark.” That prophecy becomes completely plausible with a system like this.

It may begin under the guise of “safety” and “national security,” but once it’s in place the control will only increase. That’s where the danger is.

DNA is already taken from those convicted of a crime.

We haven't began to see the controls that are going to descend on Americans.

And the tragedy besides is,there will be those who say it's all OK. Because they need to feel safe from whatever boogyman the controllers sell them so they'll believe,government is their savior.

 

[MatthewG]

Back when I was in middle school in America, they took my fingerprints—kind of wild to think about now. And you know how it goes at the doctor’s office: you get blood drawn, and that info gets filed away too.
I’ve seen stories where someone gets caught decades later—like 40 years after the crime—because of DNA evidence. It’s amazing how long justice can wait, and how far technology has come to finally catch up.