Rapture ... soon?

[Ronald David Bruno]

If it is not information, but you are falling for and spreading misinformation, then yes, it is a shame. From what you said in your OP, you are even falling for the same kind of misinformation constantly for decades. Time to learn?

We are probably all guilty of spreading/repeating some false information, but it does not mean it is OK and without any shame.

You gave no detailed info. Joel has no connection to this gay, nor does he teach about the end times. 9-23-17 was an astronomical sign in the heavens: Virgo, clothed in the sun, with the moon at her feet and crown of stars ( Leo) around her head (including thr King Star, Jupiter in the mix). It was a description of Rev. 12:1
Joel never mentioned that either.
Spare me the off the cuff opinionated, broad stroke statements, with no details to back it up. It's like a child trying to connect the dots to outline a picture of an eagle but comes up with a pig instead.

 

[shepherdsword]

Jesus made that statement when He was alive. After He rose from the dead, His glory returned. After He ascended into heaven, He was given the scroll and He opened it - so then He knew. During His earthly mission, He relinquished His glory and did not know. You don't think Our Lord knows now? And this is the generation that all these things will come to pass. He left us signs to look for. We'll see.
The interesting report I heard today was that Jerusalem would be blowing 100 shofars and televising it to the world on the 24th, the second day of the Feast of Trumpets. This will create a stir among all the anti-simites in the world- especially now since they are accusing Israel of genocide. And another event is scheduled for this time, a UN meeting! This will be a time when every eye could not only see the shofars sound an alarm, but also maybe a surprise appearance of Jesus when every eye could see Him descending too. ?? We'll see.

You are missing the point. Perhaps Jesus does know now...but no man on earth does. Don't let him deceive you with guile.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Change our DNA, eh?


I got the COVID-19 vaccine (and booster ones), yet my hair did not grow faster.

The concept of transhumanism was an issue with the Covid 19 vaccine. The claim was made that was supposedly debunked - but I did not believe their lies. There was bad stuff in that vaccine!
My wife and others in the family suffered from that vaccine. Information was buried and is now coming out that 7 % of those who got the jab suffered symptoms ranging from blood clots, partial paralysis and my wife now suffers from Auto Immune Disease, where her body is attacking itself. The RNA messed with her DNA. I don't know the science, but it was no surprise that 100k doctors and nurses refused to get the jab and sor did I. My wife was dancing one month and the next using a walker. I do blame that vaccine. Her sister got the jab and couldn't walk for 4 days and continued to suffer other symptoms. My 18 year old nephew was rushed to the hospital with a blood clot in his lungs - they passed it off as some rare condition.
Since the Mark of the Beast was discussed in the video, (that you refused to watch), I'll double down on this future jab that will not only include a chip, but also DNA altering technology.
GOD will resurrect our bodies. We will resemble somewhat in appearance how we looked physically, but a perfected version. So He uses elements of our DNA. We have been keeping this tradition of burying the dead, to store our elements ( dust in some cases) for that future transformation, the Resurrection. We'll have similar characteristics and recognize eachother. But Satan, if he can alter the person's DNA, then they are no longer the humans whom God created. He puts his stamp on them or so to speak and their path becomes irrevocable. Of course it is the spiritual decision that one makes that seals the deal.
So for those left behind, do not take the Mark of the Beast.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

You are missing the point. Perhaps Jesus does know now...but no man on earth does. Don't let him deceive you with guile.

I am not deceived when I already anticipate His return and have been for 25+ years. The clock is ticking and one generation ( 80 years) added to 1948 is approaching soon - if that theology is correct, and many of us Premillennials use that as one of the signs. So again, dreams and visions are and will be given by God during this time - so we hear them and decide, true or false.
I got your NO vote on this one, check.

 

[HealthyShape]

I am not deceived when I already anticipate His return and have been for 25+ years. The clock is ticking and one generation ( 80 years) added to 1948 is approaching soon - if that theology is correct, and many of us Premillennials use that as one of the signs. So again, dreams and visions are and will be given by God during this time - so we hear them and decide, true or false.
I got your NO vote on this one, check.

A 1948 guy? I thought they converted to 1968.

Dispensationalists came with 20 years, then 40 years, now 80 years for a generation. Still nothing, not even a temple being built. So I guess it will be prolonged to 100 years and then to 120 years etc. The absurdity of this goal posts moving lead some to count it since 1968 instead, but this is also not working well.

 

[HealthyShape]

You gave no detailed info. Joel has no connection to this gay, nor does he teach about the end times. 9-23-17 was an astronomical sign in the heavens: Virgo, clothed in the sun, with the moon at her feet and crown of stars ( Leo) around her head (including thr King Star, Jupiter in the mix. It was a description of Rev. 12:1
Joel never mentioned that either.
Spare me the off the cuff opinionated, broad stroke statements, with no details to back it up. It's like a child trying to connect the dots to outline a picture of an eagle but comes up with a pig instead.

I do not care about Joel or about "this guy". It is just another round of the same kind of social media viral chain, with new people involved and with new reasons invented.

It will not happen and it is behind me why are some people taking it seriously.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

I get it now, there are a few Amillennialists responding here - of course - that figures.
I should have created a Pre-millennial Safe Zone, not allowing Amillennials into this thread. Yes, might as well exclude them from any of my threads from now on.

A 1948 guy? I thought they converted to 1968.

Dispensationalists came with 20 years, then 40 years, now 80 years for a generation. Still nothing, not even a temple being built. So I guess it will be prolonged to 100 years and then to 120 years etc. The absurdity of this goal posts moving lead some to count it since 1968 instead, but this is also not working well.

"Our days may come to seventy years,
or eighty, if our strength endures;
yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away." Psalm 90:10

 

[HealthyShape]

"Our days may come to seventy years,
or eighty, if our strength endures;
yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away." Psalm 90:10

Or 100 or 110. And with longevity breakthroughs, you can make it longer and longer, right?

 

[shepherdsword]

I am not deceived when I already anticipate His return and have been for 25+ years. The clock is ticking and one generation ( 80 years) added to 1948 is approaching soon - if that theology is correct, and many of us Premillennials use that as one of the signs. So again, dreams and visions are and will be given by God during this time - so we hear them and decide, true or false.
I got your NO vote on this one, check.

The bible has a generation as 100 years:

Ge 15:13-16
hen He said to Abram: "Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. 14 And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. 15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete."

But it sounds like you swallowed that pre-trib deception. I am historic premillennial so I don't

 

[TribulationSigns]

The bible has a generation as 100 years:

Ge 15:13-16
hen He said to Abram: "Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. 14 And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. 15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete."

But it sounds like you swallowed that pre-trib deception. I am historic premillennial so I don't

LOL!!!!

Look at the history of false premillennial interpretation based on “generation” since 1948AD they thought everything have to do with their precious nation called “Israel.”

40 years, nothing happened then 50 years but nothing happened, then 70 years, again nothing happened, 80 years and now 100 years?!

Foolish! They got the wrong generation!

 

[IndianaRob]

LOL!!!!

Look at the history of false premillennial interpretation based on “generation” since 1948AD they thought everything have to do with their precious nation called “Israel.”

40 years, nothing happened then 50 years but nothing happened, then 70 years, again nothing happened, 80 years and now 100 years?!

Foolish! They got the wrong generation!

Two more weeks.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Two more weeks.

For what? To consider yourself as the false prophet on the 25th? Agreed!

 

[IndianaRob]

For what? To consider yourself as the false prophet on the 25th? Agreed!

No. The rapture is a lie. The standard saying when something is never going to happen is two weeks… at least where I live it is.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The bible has a generation as 100 years:

Ge 15:13-16
hen He said to Abram: "Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. 14 And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. 15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete."

But it sounds like you swallowed that pre-trib deception. I am historic premillennial so I don't

Didn't swallow it, as I implied, just chewing on it for a bit.

 

[shepherdsword]

Didn't swallow it, as I implied, just chewing on it for a bit.

You know what? I actually hope they are right! I don't see it in the scripture but I am all for it if I am wrong.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I don't know at this point if he is the real deal ... but maybe? But his story is interesting, it doesn't seem fabricated, he doesn't sound like a liar. What say you?

I don't believe he is lying, or fabricating his story. I believe that he believes what he's saying. I believe he loves the Lord. But there is still a chance he is a nut, that loves the Lord.

Don't mean to freak you out ... I mean I have been talking about this for 25 years and anticipating His return. And so I feel like the boy who cried wolf enough times and after a while, when a wolf really came, nobody would believe him.

But it is a freak out. People are getting stressed out over it. And people are getting mad at it. His first video was in July 2025. It was a phone in video. Since that time it has become a phenomena. It has spread around the world. You can search YouTube with a VPN and find confirmation videos from around the world.

BTW, this goes against my belief sbout the timing of last trumpet, which I have for years believed it was the 7th Trumpet in Rev. 11:15. Oh well.

I watched all his videos. The first time I listened to his hour long video with the cent twinz on earphones. Then I watched it again latter. I watched his eyes. That video I watched 4 times. I watched them all and studied them to see if I could catch him in something wrong. I find a few things I liked, and a few things I had a problem with. He says a few strange things. I talked about them on another forum with another smart guy. I can forgive, and have leeway for doctrinal issues. We don't really know exactly what is going to happen, or that we are correct in every detail.

My conclusion at this time is 50/50. I can't disqualify anything he said. So based on the magnitude of the event we are talking about, if there is any chance he is genuine, we should probably proceed as if he is correct. If he is speaking for God, I wouldn't speak against him at this time. We're talking about the greatest event in the history of mankind.

He first received his main vision in 2018. He didn't really do anything with it at that time. He has a little YouTube channel that never was successful. He said God told him to get going on it and tell the world this year. So he contacted a more popular YouTube creator to get the word out. His first video was phone in with Vlad at God's Voice Daily.

In the main part of his long video he said a couple things that sounded legit to me, and a couple things that did not sound legit. Like saying Jesus didn't call it the Rapture, he called it the Exodus. I thought of that years ago, it's like the second great Exodus, God is taking His People out of Egypt.

In his newest video, Joshua talked about how he is aware that many "watchmen" have been working on trying to figure out the timing of this for many years. Why would God choose to reveal this to him, just a simple guy from Johannesburg South Africa. He said he never gave any thought to the timing, he was never obsessed with when the Rapture would be, his focus was always on Christ first. He just thought he would grow to be a 90 year old man, and it wouldn't happen in his lifetime.

The other thing is he says Jesus more recently told him to shout it from the rooftops. Joshua says he has a little YouTube Channel that never grew too much. He said he knew the "urgency of the time", so he began approaching "already established platforms'. That makes me believe that he believes. He's not profiting from this. So that's when he contacted Vlad for that first phone in video at God's voice daily, then the cent twinz, and the rest is history. That's the order I watched them in. The rest of the videos began after that, and became a world wide phenomena. Old ladies making videos in their kitchens for the first time, young men making simple videos in their cars, and construction workers making confirmation videos. Crazy.

In his latest video, Joshua says: "I would rather die than lead the body of Christ astray". He says, he's "talking to the Body of Christ all over the world, "before we watch for the date, "before we put our eyes on the date, "before we focus on the date, "we need to watch for the Lord. "We need to have our eyes on the Lord. He says all the "watching" becomes bigger than Christ. "The watching becomes a thing about, who is watching better than the other.

I don't know.

He might be legit.

This might really be it.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[TribulationSigns]

He might be legit.

Seriously?? He is a false prophet.

What made you think that our Holy God is so concerned about a soccer game that He needed to tell Joshua that there will be no World Cup? That is purely stupid and false! Nowhere in Scripture does God tie the rapture or end-times events to a sporting event like the World Cup. All Christ warned, "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only” (Matthew 24:36). Now, Joshua claimed that he had a conversation with Christ where He gave him a "hint" about the soccer game?!

That is adding to God's Word. That is dangerous, misleading, and not from the Holy Spirit.

See you on the 24th!

 

[Wish-it]

I have been inundated with many Youtube videos about the Rapture happening on Sept. 23-24, 2025. But many of them seemed fake, fabrications generated by AI.
This is popular now, AI generated stories or ads that are very articulate, creative as if written by a Phd in Journalism. Adults and children telling stories of accidents, (NDE's), going to heaven, seeing Jesus and returning to give us a message can't possibly all express themselves like Hemingway with a keen knowledge of the Bible.
AI can develop a story as one prompts it with particular parameters, styles, in line with Biblical truths in such a brilliant way - in seconds - with access to and information sifted from 5 billion books. It is quite amazing. But that is the flaw in it, it is not communicated in a common way.
So after listening to many of these fake AI stories that are usually generated for monetary purposes, which have all taken advantage of this date to attract attention, I just about dismissed the whole idea. Btw, it is the Feast of Trumpets on Tuesday - which many have supposed the last trumpet would be part of.
I woke up this morning and a notion came to me. When did these stories start appearing? Recently, most of them in August and September this year. But where did they get this idea? There must have been an original claim, with a real person talking and giving his account. And I found one story. The difference is, this one is not a near death experience, it was a 2018 Vision by this South African Christian named Joshua.
I don't know at this point if he is the real deal ... but maybe? But his story is interesting, it doesn't seem fabricated, he doesn't sound like a liar. What say you?
Don't mean to freak you out ... I mean I have been talking about this for 25 years and anticipating His return. And so I feel like the boy who cried wolf enough times and after a while, when a wolf really came, nobody would believe him.
Just pray everyday, ask Him to bless your family and keep you safe. Be thankful for what God has given you. He will return soon. ??? Please read 1 Cor. 15:51-55 & 1 Thes. 4:16-17
BTW, this goes against my belief sbout the timing of last trumpet, which I have for years believed it was the 7th Trumpet in Rev. 11:15. Oh well.

Here it is: https://share.google/eCLgNLuK2SMR0klwm

*** PREMILLENNIAL SAFE ZONE, NO AMILLENNIALS PLEASE!

Won't happen, see you all on the 25th (to allow for time variations) Too many signs yet to happen, namely Dan 2,7,8,11. 2 Thess 2, etc,etc

 

[Dave Watchman]

What made you think that our Holy God is so concerned about a soccer game that He needed to tell Joshua that there will be no World Cup? That is purely stupid and false! Nowhere in Scripture does God tie the rapture or end-times events to a sporting event like the World Cup. All Christ warned, "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only” (Matthew 24:36). Now, Joshua claimed that he had a conversation with Christ where He gave him a "hint" about the soccer game?!

I didn't think our Holy God would be concerned about the world cup. I didn't think Jesus would care about a soccer game. This was one of the things I thought was strange in the beginning. Just as strange as Jesus saying there will be no super bowl in 2026.

Joshua from Africa said he doesn't follow soccer, he had to check if there even was a world cup in 2026.

Joshua was talking about this in July, I was delving into it then, and in August.

Around the last week in August I was talking with some investment people on a forum. The night before there was an alert that Trump would make an important announcement from The Oval Office. We were debating what it would be, maybe more tariffs, maybe secondary sanctions on countries buying oil from Russia. And Trump was a hour late.

It turned out to be an announcement that the World Cup will be held in the USA. And encompass Canada and Mexico. It will be the greatest event in the history of sports.

In the video Trump said he would put the World Cup Trophy next to the angel in his office.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Or 100 or 110. And with longevity breakthroughs, you can make it longer and longer, right?

Some can live to 120, but the average is around 78-80.