Rapture ... soon?

[Rockerduck]

I missed this note while I was reading yesterday. Even if there were no resurrection on this Feast of Trumpets, at this time I would still see the 80 years as valid.

At the beginning of the Cent twins part 2 interview, Joshua does a good job describing why people get stressed out and even angry with all the rapture predictions. From around 5 to 7 minutes in. I copied some of the transcript:

"Almost everyone quoted the scripture to say nobody knows the hour the time that you know his the day or the hour of his return. So let's get into it. Okay. So, what I've realized is that people are traumatized by the setting of dates. I'm saying for the lack of a better word, they are traumatized because let me say, let me use another word and say people are worn out. Okay. Okay. This date is set. It comes and it goes. But I want to comfort people and I want to assure them that the date that I have come with is the final one. Sure. There there is no other date when it comes to if the gospel has reached the world, if it has reached everybody. I guess there only God can know that only God can know. I hear you. How many people or how many billions of people have received the gospel? Only God can know that. So I'm comforting people with this word that the date that I have come up with Mhm. that others also are confirming is irrefutable. So it's the final date. It is the final date. It cannot be disproven. It cannot be because I hear other people are talking about postponement.​

I believe this is true. I'm sure of it. It was the end that had come, which was the Gospel being preached by man to the ends of the earth. Then the power was given to the Two Witnesses, they took over.

There are a bunch of things like this that have been happening, and are happening now. There's a bunch of things. Too many to list. I was smart yesterday for not bringing them up. John Chau, and Charlie Kirk I believe are markers, or signals. They frame in a heptad of time. And they are not the only objects doing so. There's a lot going on right now.

I'm promise not to get into this right now. I actually think it is January 1969 and Levi Eshkol. But it's not 80 years we need to add to that, only 49 years, 7 heptads.

It's probably in our DNA, but I'm a big believer in keeping the weight down. Do a fast for a day once and awhile. We don't see too many heavy old people. Because once we get too big, the blood pressure goes up. Insulin resistance goes up. There's danger for strokes, liver failure, heat attacks and poor eyesight. Get a blood pressure monitor. One with the arm cuff.

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Or maybe wait until next Wednesday in case we're out of here.

Maybe we should put out extra food for the animals, maybe get an automatic fish feeder.

My study says Jesus did away with Mosiac law, and feasts. So, Rosh Hashanah is out as a day of return. Ask yourself why would Jesus return on a Jewish feast after doing away with the Law.

 

[Dave Watchman]

My study says Jesus did away with Mosiac law, and feasts. So, Rosh Hashanah is out as a day of return. Ask yourself why would Jesus return on a Jewish feast after doing away with the Law.

If Jesus did away with the Law, thanks for capitalizing it, I could probably be sitting here with a beautician at the wheel, and three more in the back smoking Lucky Strikes and wearing nylons too, all of us watching porno movies.

Jesus said if we even look at a woman with lust in our eyes.

It's all debatable. If Jesus is coming this week, you can ask Him.

But if you're worried about it you can do a Google on it. And you'll probably get a better answer than if you ask your pasture.

Jesus fulfilled the first 4 out of the seven Feast Days with His life. It doesn't take a giant extrapolation to figure out He will knock off the next 3 with His second coming. My Brave Browser's AI knows it:

Jesus fulfilled the first four feasts of Israel—Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost—during His first coming, perfectly aligning with the precise days and requirements of each feast. These spring feasts were fulfilled literally and on their appointed times, with Jesus' crucifixion corresponding to Passover, His burial during Unleavened Bread, His resurrection on First Fruits, and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, marking the beginning of the Church. The fulfillment of these feasts is seen as a central part of God's redemptive plan, with the final three fall feasts—Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles—expected to be fulfilled at His second coming.

• Jesus fulfilled Passover by being crucified as the sinless Lamb of God, whose blood provided salvation, fulfilling the requirement of the Passover sacrifice.
• The Feast of Unleavened Bread was fulfilled by Jesus' sinless life and His burial, symbolizing the removal of sin, as leaven represents corruption in Scripture.
• Jesus' resurrection on the Feast of First Fruits fulfilled the prophecy of Him being the "firstfruits from the dead," guaranteeing the resurrection of believers.
• Pentecost was fulfilled when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the disciples, establishing the Church and fulfilling the promise of a spiritual harvest.

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My study says Jesus did away with Mosiac law, and feasts.

Tell Him when you see Him. Tell Him my study says you did away with the Mosaic Feasts.

They weren't Moses' Feasts, they were the ones that God told Moses to tell the people to do.

The Feasts were God's.

 

[Rockerduck]

If Jesus did away with the Law, thanks for capitalizing it, I could probably be sitting here with a beautician at the wheel, and three more in the back smoking Lucky Strikes and wearing nylons too, all of us watching porno movies.

Jesus said if we even look at a woman with lust in our eyes.

It's all debatable. If Jesus is coming this week, you can ask Him.

But if you're worried about it you can do a Google on it. And you'll probably get a better answer than if you ask your pasture.

Jesus fulfilled the first 4 out of the seven Feast Days with His life. It doesn't take a giant extrapolation to figure out He will knock off the next 3 with His second coming. My Brave Browser's AI knows it:

Jesus fulfilled the first four feasts of Israel—Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost—during His first coming, perfectly aligning with the precise days and requirements of each feast. These spring feasts were fulfilled literally and on their appointed times, with Jesus' crucifixion corresponding to Passover, His burial during Unleavened Bread, His resurrection on First Fruits, and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, marking the beginning of the Church. The fulfillment of these feasts is seen as a central part of God's redemptive plan, with the final three fall feasts—Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles—expected to be fulfilled at His second coming.

• Jesus fulfilled Passover by being crucified as the sinless Lamb of God, whose blood provided salvation, fulfilling the requirement of the Passover sacrifice.
• The Feast of Unleavened Bread was fulfilled by Jesus' sinless life and His burial, symbolizing the removal of sin, as leaven represents corruption in Scripture.
• Jesus' resurrection on the Feast of First Fruits fulfilled the prophecy of Him being the "firstfruits from the dead," guaranteeing the resurrection of believers.
• Pentecost was fulfilled when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the disciples, establishing the Church and fulfilling the promise of a spiritual harvest.

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I'm not worried about nothing. Jesus did away with the Law of Moses, this includes feasts, Jubilees and sacrifices. When Jesus died on the Cross, the Age of Grace, aka Church age, began. The Age of Grace cannot be mixed with a works-based Mosaic Law.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I'm not worried about nothing. Jesus did away with the Law of Moses, this includes feasts, Jubilees and sacrifices. When Jesus died on the Cross, the Age of Grace, aka Church age, began. The Age of Grace cannot be mixed with a works-based Mosaic Law.

It doesn't mean that we're saved by doing the Feasts, or not killing people, or honoring our parents, or any of the other commandments. You're not getting it. Jesus said don't think that He has come to do away with the Law. It doesn't mean we are saved by it. But we should still make an effort to do them as best as we can.

And you're combining the Feast days with the whole of the Mosaic Law. All anyone needs to look at is how Jesus Himself thought it necessary to fulfil the first 4. With Jesus' crucifixion corresponding to Passover, His burial during Unleavened Bread, His resurrection on First Fruits, and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, marking the beginning of the Church.

The fulfillment of these feasts is seen as a central part of God's redemptive plan, with the final three fall feasts—Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles—expected to be fulfilled at His second coming.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Brakelite]

Yep, apparently day after tomorrow, Australian time. So annoying. I'll miss the next Miami Dolphins game, and miss the rest of my term holidays.

 

[Rockerduck]

It doesn't mean that we're saved by doing the Feasts, or not killing people, or honoring our parents, or any of the other commandments. You're not getting it. Jesus said don't think that He has come to do away with the Law. It doesn't mean we are saved by it. But we should still make an effort to do them as best as we can.

And you're combining the Feast days with the whole of the Mosaic Law. All anyone needs to look at is how Jesus Himself thought it necessary to fulfil the first 4. With Jesus' crucifixion corresponding to Passover, His burial during Unleavened Bread, His resurrection on First Fruits, and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, marking the beginning of the Church.

The fulfillment of these feasts is seen as a central part of God's retidemptive plan, with the final three fall feasts—Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles—expected to be fulfilled at His second coming.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Of course, Jesus was born under the law and fulfilled the Law and yes, all the feasts and 613 laws were in effect until Jesus died, went to the grave, and set the captives free, because under the law, the sacrifices postponed the Grace of God. When Jesus rose on the third day, it all was changed, The Mosiac law gone, the Age of Grace started, and at Pentecost, it was done, kaput. The Holy Spirit is in us now. Jesus preached the Kingdom of Heaven is near, and Now the Kingdom of Heaven is here, with us.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Can you all at least watch this video ... if you can spare 24 minutes of your very important and busy schedules?

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[HealthyShape]

Can you all at least watch this video ... if you can spare 24 minutes of your very important and busy schedules?

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1. If it is about supporting the "next week rapture" then no. Literally 0 chance of it happening.

2. Requiring people to watch something from google share is unusual. People may be more willing to watch something on safe public online platforms like youtube.

 

[Scott Downey]

Posting stuff on this forum is like rolling dice. People agree, but mostly disagree. No shame is suffered for merely sharing information. I'm not a Pastor or Professor leading people astray. No cost, no debt, no harm and no foul. This is just speculative stuff. Eschatology contains many views which are opposing - as we often end up with. Actually there are no qualified teachers on this forum that can influence me or anyone else. So lightened up.

When the rapture does not happen in a few days, what will you say on this thread?

 

[Rockerduck]

I watched the video up to the red heifer part. Then Its all false Mosaic worship. Bulls and goats cannot remove sin, only Jesus can. The narrator makes many false statements. Like at Isaac sacrifice a ram's horn was used, bold lie. I'm sure Joshua had over 100 horns, by the way. Only one phophecy I heard was fulfilled was the return to Israel. In truth, Jews bought the land the land little by little after WW1. The United Nation recognized Israel as a nation, not God. Another temple is not an option as it thumbs it nose at Jesus and His saving Grace, that Jews still are trying to reach God as thieves and robbers, to quote Jesus.

 

[Dave Watchman]

When the rapture does not happen in a few days, what will you say on this thread?

I don't know what Ron will say, but I might check in with the guy who's doing the 24hour livestream and poke some fun in the comment section.

Then I would say keep watching, I still think it's anytime now. Feast of Trumpets is just a high alert time. There's a lot of things going on right now.

Three interstellar visitors are framing in the heptad I have marked, based on Isaac Newton's count from 1535.

There's a once in a millennia swarm of seven comets converging on our inner solar system. Never seen before.

I was just loading up all these comets and interstellar visitors into the sky live.

theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem?objs=c2025a6|c2025k1|c2024e1|c2025r2|414p|240p|c2022n2&date=2024-09-10&h=21&m=17&

You can set the date for around Sept 2024, then center the inner solar system the way you like it, then press the play arrow. Watch all these things come in to our solar system. Seven of them. It's like a swarm of bees. Then as it advances into the beginning of 2026, they all move away and leave us alone.

Screen shots from my Sky Live:

 

[HealthyShape]

Three interstellar visitors are framing in the heptad I have marked, based on Isaac Newton's count from 1535.

Newton was born 1642.

 

[Scott Downey]

I don't know what Ron will say, but I might check in with the guy who's doing the 24hour livestream and poke some fun in the comment section.

Then I would say keep watching, I still think it's anytime now. Feast of Trumpets is just a high alert time. There's a lot of things going on right now.

Three interstellar visitors are framing in the heptad I have marked, based on Isaac Newton's count from 1535.

There's a once in a millennia swarm of seven comets converging on our inner solar system. Never seen before.

I was just loading up all these comets and interstellar visitors into the sky live.

theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem?objs=c2025a6|c2025k1|c2024e1|c2025r2|414p|240p|c2022n2&date=2024-09-10&h=21&m=17&

You can set the date for around Sept 2024, then center the inner solar system the way you like it, then press the play arrow. Watch all these things come in to our solar system. Seven of them. It's like a swarm of bees. Then as it advances into the beginning of 2026, they all move away and leave us alone.

Screen shots from my Sky Live:

Since the rapture signifies also the resurrection, when Christ comes again is also the day of judgment and the Last Day.
That is going to be a busy Day.

1 Thess 4

The Comfort of Christ’s Coming​

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [b]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

When the rapture does not happen in a few days, what will you say on this thread?

I said up front, I wasn't sure about Joshua's prediction and still am not. I have been anticipating Jesus' return and feel the timeline and events are ripe; but still goes against my Mid-Trib claims over the years. I'm open, but just wanted opinions ... and I got them. Thank you all.

It is not my prediction, I did not have a vision, so I will not feel any shame or guilt from missleading anyone. It is just an open sharing forum ... isn't it? " Yeah guys, what do think of this ... sounds sincere ...?" That's all. Amillennials and Post- Tribbers will immediately dismiss it -- BECAUSE it is a huge stumbling block ( and quite a dismantling one) against their views.
Well, we'll see. I figure by sundown Jerusalem time on the 24th, we'll know. Maybe you think you know now - Okay, Check, got your vote!
And furthermore, if this 80 year generation ( added to 1948) expires, I am okay with that too. I am living a good life, retired in Texas, pushing 70. So after that, would not be shifting dates to 2047, I'd be looking forward to death instead. Billy Graham once said about the end times, "Everyone's end time is coming soon- at their death"! (paraphrased). So either way is fine with me, Jesus returns for judgment or I die and ascend to heaven!

 

[Dave Watchman]

Newton was born 1642.

That's great news. I wasn't posting his birthday. His count of heptads were based on 1535. He was alive to see that. 1535 pointed to 1969. 1969 pointed to 2018. And that culminates with 2025.

 

[HealthyShape]

That's great news. I wasn't posting his birthday. His count of heptads were based on 1535. He was alive to see that. 1535 pointed to 1969. 1969 pointed to 2018. And that culminates with 2025.

Not even AI is certain about what you are trying to say. It says you are posting some speculative numerology, but that it is inconsistent.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Since the rapture signifies also the resurrection, when Christ comes again is also the day of judgment and the Last Day.
That is going to be a busy Day.

1 Thess 4

The Comfort of Christ’s Coming​

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [b]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

All of this depends on you being exactly correct on your definition of the "last day". For the purpose of this thread, that word "rapture" really just means the blessed and holy resurrection, or the first resurrection from Revelation 20.

If the subject of the OP turns out to be correct, we may not be fully understanding these verses from Revelation:

"If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.
Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.

Or this verse:

"And I heard a voice from heaven telling me to write, Blessed are the dead--those who die in the Lord from this moment on. Yes, says the Spirit, they will rest from their labors, for their deeds will follow them.

These will be the those. Those who are coming, one at a time, out of great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. So these people are doing it the hard way. There is not two raptures, or two resurrections from the dead, these people who die in the Lord, go strait to heaven one at a time, and become those who are coming out of great tribulation.

"Sir, you know.

 

[Scott Downey]

That's great news. I wasn't posting his birthday. His count of heptads were based on 1535. He was alive to see that. 1535 pointed to 1969. 1969 pointed to 2018. And that culminates with 2025.

And not only all that I pointed to happens when Christ comes back, this also, the restoration of all things spoken of by all the holy prophets since the world began.

Including the new earth and new heavens.
And it says that all who are among the people when God sends Christ, who do not hear Christ, will be utterly destroyed.

Acts 3
14 But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, 15 and killed the [b]Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses. 16 And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began. 22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you.

23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24 Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also [f]foretold these days.

25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ 26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”

 

[Dave Watchman]

Not even AI is certain about what you are trying to say. It says you are posting some speculative numerology, but that it is inconsistent.

AI really just is a digest of everything on the net. I'm glad AI can't figure it out.

The numbers match and can superspeed, or force the understanding of doctrine. The numbers are the price action that makes for market commentary. The numbers take priority.

1535 + 62 weeks = 1969.

1969 + 7 weeks = 2018, + Special 50th Jubilee year = 2019.

2019 + 1 week = 2025.

 

[Scott Downey]

All of this depends on you being exactly correct on your definition of the "last day". For the purpose of this thread, that word "rapture" really just means the blessed and holy resurrection, or the first resurrection from Revelation 20.

If the subject of the OP turns out to be correct, we may not be fully understanding these verses from Revelation:

"If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.
Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.

Or this verse:

"And I heard a voice from heaven telling me to write, Blessed are the dead--those who die in the Lord from this moment on. Yes, says the Spirit, they will rest from their labors, for their deeds will follow them.

These will be the those. Those who are coming, one at a time, out of great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. So these people are doing it the hard way. There is not two raptures, or two resurrections from the dead, these people who die in the Lord, go strait to heaven one at a time, and become those who are coming out of great tribulation.

"Sir, you know.

Last Day also included Lazarus rising in the resurrection.

John 11:24
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

I take it to mean the Last Day of this first earth. I don't try to make it more complex than it should be.
John 12:48
He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

2 Timothy 4
New King James Version

1 I charge you [a]therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:

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Therefore logically according to the word, Last Day is the Day of Christ when He appears.​