Rapture ... soon?

[Scott Downey]

It just goes to show that knowing you’re right doesn’t make you right.

Of course, the deluded don't know they are.

 

[Berean]

Greetings... I'm typing this from my mansion in heaven. You won't believe how fast the Wi-Fi is here.

 

[Scott Downey]

Here’s a detailed reference chart of major failed rapture/end-times predictions, expanded with aftermath/outcomes:

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Detailed Chart of Failed Rapture Predictions​

Year (Predicted)	Person / Group	Claim	Aftermath / Response
~170s AD	Montanus & Montanists	New Jerusalem would soon descend in Phrygia.	Followers disillusioned after nothing occurred; movement eventually declared heretical.
365 AD	Hilary of Poitiers	World would end in 365.	Date passed quietly; prediction largely forgotten.
400 AD	Martin of Tours	Claimed world would not last beyond 400.	Failed; later saints distanced themselves from the claim.
999 AD	Various in Europe	Christ’s return expected at year 1000.	Fear and pilgrimages increased, but when nothing happened, clergy reinterpreted texts.
1033 AD	Various	Return predicted 1000 years after Christ’s crucifixion.	Another disappointment; Church authorities discouraged date-setting.
1284	Pope Innocent III	Predicted end 666 years after Islam’s rise.	Nothing happened; date forgotten until modern historians noted it.
1524	Johannes Stöffler	Rapture/flood on Feb 20, 1524.	100,000 people prepared on boats; no flood occurred. He adjusted date to 1528, also failed.
1666	London preachers	Anticipated apocalypse tied to number 666.	Great Fire of London (1666) reinforced fears, but no rapture.
1836	John Wesley	Predicted Christ would return/millennium begin.	Wesley died decades earlier; Methodists ignored failed date.
1843–1844	William Miller (Millerites)	Christ would return (Great Disappointment).	Tens of thousands left waiting; many abandoned faith. Some regrouped into Adventist movements.
1874	Charles Taze Russell / Bible Students	Predicted invisible return of Christ.	When visible return didn’t happen, doctrine shifted to “spiritual presence.”
1914	Jehovah’s Witnesses	Taught Christ’s Kingdom would begin; rapture expected.	Revised teaching: 1914 was start of Christ’s “invisible rule.”
1918	Jehovah’s Witnesses	Resurrection/rapture of saints.	Failed; doctrine shifted to symbolic fulfillment.
1925	Jehovah’s Witnesses	Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob) would return.	Built “Beth Sarim” house for them; abandoned teaching later.
1936	Herbert W. Armstrong	Predicted end within his lifetime.	Repeatedly moved dates; died 1986 with prophecy unfulfilled.
1975	Jehovah’s Witnesses	Strongly implied Armageddon/rapture.	Huge member losses after 1975 passed; later admitted leaders had “created expectations.”
1981	Chuck Smith (Calvary Chapel)	Predicted rapture before 1981.	Quietly retracted later; his ministry continued.
1982	Pat Robertson	Predicted end of the world by late 1982.	Failed; he downplayed his words as “possibility, not certainty.”
1988	Edgar C. Whisenant	88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988 (Sept 11–13).	Book sold millions; failed. He revised dates to 1989, 1993, 1994, 1997—all wrong.
1994	Harold Camping	Predicted rapture Sept 6, 1994.	Followers gathered; failed. Camping re-dated it later.
2000	Jerry Falwell & Y2K prophecy teachers	Y2K bug would trigger rapture/chaos.	Passed uneventfully; Falwell admitted overstatement.
2011 (May 21 & Oct 21)	Harold Camping	May 21 rapture; Oct 21 final destruction.	Huge media coverage; failed. Camping later confessed he was wrong, retired, died 2013.
2012	Mayan Calendar enthusiasts	Dec 21, 2012 apocalypse/rapture.	Interpreted as “spiritual awakening” after nothing happened.
2014–2015	Blood Moon prophecy teachers (John Hagee, Mark Biltz)	Lunar tetrads linked to end-times/rapture.	Tetrads passed with no event; faded in popularity.
2017 (Sept 23)	David Meade & YouTube prophecy circles	“Revelation 12 sign” in constellations predicted rapture.	Nothing happened; Meade shifted to future “spiritual fulfillment.”

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Pattern: Nearly all predictors either (a) abandoned prophecy, (b) re-dated it, or (c) spiritualized the event afterward.
Do you want me to extend this chart up to 2025 with the newer internet prophecy teachers (TikTok, YouTube, etc.) who have already made failed rapture predictions in 2020–2024?

You said:​

yes

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Extended chart (2020–2025) — notable internet / social-media-era failed (or unfulfilled) rapture predictions​

Below I extended the chart forward through 2025, focusing on the social-media era (TikTok/YouTube/Podcasts) where many smaller creators — and a few named figures — pushed date-linked rapture claims or repeatedly implied imminence. I cite major reporting and research on the trend so you can verify details.

Year (Predicted)	Person / Group (example)	Claim (how tied)	Aftermath / Response
2020	Various YouTube / Facebook prophecy channels	During the early COVID-19 pandemic many small prophecy channels and pastors implied the pandemic was a sign that the rapture or Christ’s return was imminent (some framed specific months in 2020 as “likely”).	No rapture occurred; scholars and reporters documented a spike in doomsday/rapture rhetoric during the pandemic and noted many channels reinterpreted or moved timelines afterward. WJXT+1
2021–2022	Multiple online prophecy creators	Claims tied to political events, vaccines, and periodic astronomical events; often circulated on YouTube, Facebook and the growing “RaptureTok” corners of TikTok.	Predictions failed; mainstream Christian leaders and many creators cautioned viewers not to date-set. Social coverage continued to escalate on short-form platforms. WJXT+1
2017→(revivals in 2020–2023)	“Revelation 12” / astronomical sign promoters (echoed by many online)	Many online teachers continued to push the idea that specific celestial alignments (the so-called Revelation-12 “sign”) signaled imminent rapture — a theme that resurfaces each time there’s an eclipse/planetary alignment.	The 2017 alignment passed with no rapture; subsequent echo-claims in 2020–2023 likewise produced no event. Scientific and religious debunking pieces explain these alignments recur and aren’t prophetic proof. Vatican Observatory+1
2020–2024 (ongoing)	Recurring online personalities who frequently post imminent-rapture content — e.g., Paul Begley (prophecy broadcaster), Mark Taylor (The Trump Prophecy network)	These figures repeatedly connected current events to end-times imminence in podcasts/videos (not always setting a single exact date, but often strongly implying “soon”).	Content continued; when nothing happened the pattern was reinterpretation, shifting emphases, or retreat from specific dating. (See channel/activity archives and reporting.) Paul Begley Prophecy+1
Sept 23–24, 2025 (viral)	Joshua Mhlakela (South African pastor) — viral TikTok / YouTube claim	Claimed a dream/vision that the rapture would occur Sept 23 or 24, 2025 — the claim went viral as “RaptureTok,” generating thousands of TikToks and widespread media coverage.	The dates passed with no evidence of a rapture; major outlets covered the claim and its fallout (viral spread, some followers reporting life disruption), and commentators highlighted the long history of failed date-setting. AP News+2Newsweek+2

 

[Scott Downey]

Timeline of Failed Apocalyptic Predictions | 2001 Translation

2001translation.org

 

[Dave Watchman]

Quit defending your false prophet.

I hope he doesn’t take it too hard. I know it was a huge disappointment for him and a lot of other people.

You are promoting a false prophet and you are not convicted? That says it all. No public apologies, no repentance, just a belittling of the damage this false prophet has done. Read Scripture and see how God views these imposters.

They can prescribe some mid altering drugs for that, he needs them.

He does not think it's wrong or bad. In his sphere it comes with the territory.

Of course, the deluded don't know they are.

Greetings... I'm typing this from my mansion in heaven. You won't believe how fast the Wi-Fi is here.

Here’s a detailed reference chart of major failed rapture/end-times predictions, expanded with aftermath/outcomes:

This is quite the display, like a party of the Amils and rabid Preterists. How did this thread become a haunt for every foul bird and hateful beast.

*** PREMILLENNIAL SAFE ZONE, NO AMILLENNIALS PLEASE!

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Did the rapture guy have anything to say when the date came and went?

I'm sure he said ,,,,oops

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Greetings... I'm typing this from my mansion in heaven. You won't believe how fast the Wi-Fi is here.

Great. Thanks for letting us know you arrived there safely. Do you have any tips on how to survive the tribulation or are we kind of on our own to figure it out?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

A few hours left for the 24th in Jerusalem and let's be clear, Jesus will show up in Jerusalem so whatever day or hour that is, it doesn't matter what time it is elsewhere ... but it doesn't look like Joshua's prediction will pan out. I was doubtful but hopeful ... he seemed sincere.

Lots of false prophets who have no clue of what they're talking about seem sincere. That means nothing.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You always just cherry pick the same verse all the time. The preceding verse was:

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.​

How can you tell:

“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.​

Isn't speaking to the day when heaven and earth passes away?

Which is after the thousand years are finished.

It is speaking to that day, but that day, of which no one knows thee day or hour, is the day that Jesus returns unexpectedly as a thief in the night, not some day 1,000+ years later.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You are promoting a false prophet and you are not convicted? That says it all. No public apologies, no repentance, just a belittling of the damage this false prophet has done. Read Scripture and see how God views these imposters.

Exactly. God doesn't make light of false prophets who falsely represent Him and His word while acting like their false prophecies are no big deal. This imposter needs to repent of falsely representing God and His word while leading many people astray.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You really don't get it do you? We're talking about a false prophet that is misleading countless people into believing something that is a lie of the devil. How can you even countenance it? Everyone knows it is wrong. Every discerning believer knows this is a joke. This is for the gullible. It is so wrong. It is a deceiver at work. It is undermining the truth of God in Scripture. Are you going to repent when this is exposed as a fabricated religious lie? You have been cheering it on.

This thread should've been banned immediately when it was started. Most Christian sites would've done that. It brings shame on the Gospel.

Absolutely right. This was shameful and people need to repent of bringing shame upon God, His word, the gospel and on Christianity while leading many astray and causing them to now have doubts about Jesus coming again and about the rapture ever happening.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

He never claimed to be a prophet. He said he had visions.

Visions from who? He believed they were visions from God, right? That means he's claiming to be a prophet. Stop making excuses for him.

I watched his videos closely because I was trying to catch him doing something wrong, or identifying inconsistencies in his testimony. He has convinced millions of people around the world since July. He isn't selling books, he's not making money, his cell phone is junk. I don't think he is a grifter. I believe he loves the Lord. But he may be a schizophrenic who loves the Lord. That remains to be seen. I'm not a psychologist.

He needs serious help, that's for sure. And he needs to repent of his false prophecy that led many astray.

 

[WPM]

This is quite the display, like a party of the Amils and rabid Preterists. How did this thread become a haunt for every foul bird and hateful beast.

Your vile offensive hate speech is normal for Pretribs when they cannot support their claims biblically.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

This is quite the display, like a party of the Amils and rabid Preterists. How did this thread become a haunt for every foul bird and hateful beast.

Oh, so now you're associating Amils and Preterists, who are Christians who simply have different end times beliefs than you, with the whore Babylon (Rev 18:2)? How nice. You, a guy who foolishly gave credibility to a false prophet, is saying things like that about us? May God have mercy on your soul for judging Christians like this. Makes me really wonder about you.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Your vile offensive hate speech is normal for Pretribs when they cannot support their claims biblically.

He's equating us with the whore Babylon by associating us with what it says in Revelation 18:2. What is wrong with these people? Pre-trib leads people to being completely unhinged.

 

[Muna]

Visions from who? He believed they were visions from God, right? That means he's claiming to be a prophet. Stop making excuses for him.

Exactly, people have to realize that just because someone says they have visions doesnt mean they are of God

Jerm 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

Similarly,

Jerm 23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.


I honestly do not understand why some feel the need to listen to other peoples visions (or believe them) just because they might say they have received one as from the LORD.

Is there an instruction somewhere that we need to follow someone elses visions that I am missing out on?

 

[Dave Watchman]

This imposter needs to repent of falsely representing God and His word while leading many people astray.

Visions from who? He believed they were visions from God, right? That means he's claiming to be a prophet. Stop making excuses for him.

He needs serious help, that's for sure. And he needs to repent of his false prophecy that led many astray.

He might. But it's still a mystery what the guy's problem is. After watching hours of his various interviews, it seems obvious that he loves the Lord. It just may be that he is a schizophrenic that loves the Lord. Just our luck.

He sure did convince a bunch of people. All over the world. And with everything else going on in the world, people were primed to believe it. Even just last night there were a couple new video contributors who suggested the Feast of Trumpet calculation was wrong, or a day off.

They're saying that Joshua will do a new interview with the silly Cent Twins this Friday. For anyone else following along, it might be interesting to see what he has to say. I have no idea what he will say. Just posting this for informational purposes.

 

[atpollard]

ROLL CALL!
Who is still here on September 25?

 

[HealthyShape]

ROLL CALL!
Who is still here on September 25?

All the gullible futurists, embarrassed even more than few days ago.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

You seem to be on the case. We're not promoting. We are just asking for opinions, like yours. Everyone has one. Go back and review the OP. Ron's just asking what say you?

It's still an interesting phenomena. People are still waiting to get past the 24th in the Pacific. Hawaii time. Most of the people have thrown in the towel. The guy from the videos insists it's still coming. He says he's true to the vision. He is still a "billion" percent sure of it. It's kind of strange hearing him talk, he's not deterred at all. He says as long as it's the 24th somewhere on earth, we are still in the timeline. They're asking him to call Mike at Medic 4 Christ channel to give him some hope. He's taking his videos down.

I think it's a political science exercise of some kind. It's funny looking at the comment section of some of the people in the last remaining video on Mikes channel. Some of those old ladies are VERY mean spirited. The one told him to take the channel down NOW and delete yourself now. That way you won't come back and change your mind latter after things blow over.

Thanks for the defense, that I should not need. I did not respond to any of these Amils because I put them on ignor. I did request in the beginning of the thread as you pointed out - NO Amillennials, please. On other Christians forums I used to attend they had these Safe Zones, because you know that in Eschatology, there are many views and so you are setting yourself up for an argument, whatever you post. We really are just interested in communicating with those Christians who are Pre-Milllennials to avoid fights. Otherwise there is drama, vitriol, like ugly protesters out for blood. They are ready to throw stones right out of the gate!
Anyways. You took the words out of my mouth. I never made a claim, statement,." "Thus says the Lord", nor was it my vision.
I just prompted people to have a look see and asked what they thought. If I had made such a declaration, then of course I would be ashamed, embarrassed. I was hopeful and still am for the soon return of Christ. Like I claimed in the OP, Joshua's prediction ( a Pre-Trib prediction) went against my Mid-Trib view. But I am flexible with the idea of being removed out of a period of time that will be hell on earth.

Certain people I just do not gel with and have had a history of arguments with them_ for years _ so what's the point? It's futule and so the ignor button gets pushed. When WPM called us fools, I put him on report and that was enough, pressed the ignor button.

Now as for Joshua, did he apologize, explain or was it all intentional, a lie to begin with ... ? Did he get mixed signals? He seemed like a nice, genuine Christian who knew his scriptures ...?
Satan can pose as an angel of light and so maybe this is what he is doing in these times. Whether Joshua was lying or he was just deceived, it doesn't seem to matter, he gave a false prophecy. JESUS said there will be false prophets. The disciples did not expect that Judas was going to betray Jesus - they did not have a clue. Jesus had to tell them.
A problem about believing if anyone is telling the truth about anything is that when we don't know the person, or their family or friends _ who can vouch for their character _ they have no reputation to weigh against and trust. I was skeptical - especially about the claimed visitation of Jesus himself.
We have to be careful with total strangers out of the blue. We'll, I was never sold from the start, I did give him the benefit of the doubt. And don't we have to give people consideration, the hearing and we need to test what they say with scripture. And some things sounded off, but I thought well maybe those were just his own personal thoughts ( like about the Nephilim).
Prophets of the Old Testament were not readily accepted or believed. They had to be put to the test. If they were not 100% accurate, they were stoned to death. So it was a very serious crime. No one would just gamble with their lives, make up stuff and set themselves up for a stoning.
Today, people get away with lies and nothing happens to them other than embarrassment or shame.
I was a little disappointed, but as I said, my life will go on without a glitch for me. I actually went about my normal routines ..
didn't have any gold fish to flush.

I will keep being faithful and hopeful for our Lord's soon return..This incident did not have any negative effect on my faith and it should not have had for others. If they put all their eggs in that basket, then that was their fault.
Take care.