Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

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1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy,

What completely proves that a Christian has "departed from the Faith"?

#1 .. They have become convinced that they can lose their salvation.

And what proves they are under the influence of this demonic doctrine?

#1... Tney will feel a compulsion to try to prove that Salvation can be lost... They are internally driven to try to prove it, and they can't control it.

What is that?
That is literally, = a demonic stronghold in action.
That is a demonic stronghold in their mind, bearing fruit.
 

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1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy,
Do you belong to that 'some' Jack?
 

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What completely proves that a Christian has "departed from the Faith"?

#1 .. They have become convinced that they can lose their salvation.

And what proves they are under the influence of this demonic doctrine?

#1... Tney will feel a compulsion to try to prove that Salvation can be lost... They are internally driven to try to prove it, and they can't control it.

What is that?
That is literally, = a demonic stronghold in action.
That is a demonic stronghold in their mind, bearing fruit.
When a person is sure they can judge another accurately, 'That is a demonic stronghold in their mind, bearing fruit.'
 
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You are so funny. I was once like you. Saying similar things. It's ok my friend. The Creators and I are fine in the relationship we have together. Life with God outside the bible is great! I appreciate the ongoing revelation of my Sovereign Creator Who governs everything according to His desires and will.

We are cool. And it is well with my soul.
1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy,
 

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What completely proves that a Christian has "departed from the Faith"?

#1 .. They have become convinced that they can lose their salvation.

And what proves they are under the influence of this demonic doctrine?

#1... Tney will feel a compulsion to try to prove that Salvation can be lost... They are internally driven to try to prove it, and they can't control it.

What is that?
That is literally, = a demonic stronghold in action.
That is a demonic stronghold in their mind, bearing fruit.
"some will depart from the faith,"
 
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Jack

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When a person is sure they can judge another accurately, 'That is a demonic stronghold in their mind, bearing fruit.'
But YOU are the one who denied what Moses and Jesus said about the Flood!

That is a "demonic stronghold".
 

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who do you belong to Jack, the unforgiving finger pointers?
Who do YOU belong to, accusing Moses and Jesus of lying about the Genesis Flood! Why would I have to forgive you? You attacked Jesus. He's the One you need forgiveness from.
 
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1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy,
And that it is. Living in God, hearing Him communicate with me through the scriptures or by other means is great. I enjoy receiving more of God's words that proceeds from His mouth. The Spirit of Truth continues to reveal Father's thoughts to us. Yes, His words He speaks in heaven is brought to us and revealed to us BY HIS SPIRIT. The indwelling Spirit communicates directly with the spirit of all He inhabits. Maybe the question is. Are we listening to Him? I love receiving visions and pictures which reveal the mind of my Father in heaven. These parables are fantastic because they are life giving truths straight from my Good Shepherd directly to me for me and to freely pass on to others.
 

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And that it is. Living in God, hearing Him communicate with me through the scriptures or by other means is great. I enjoy receiving more of God's words that proceeds from His mouth. The Spirit of Truth continues to reveal Father's thoughts to us. Yes, His what He speaks in heaven is brought to us and revealed to us BY HIS SPIRIT. The indwelling Spirit communicates directly with the spirit of all He inhabits. Maybe the question is. Are we listening to Him?
Better question: Who convinced you to forsake God of the Bible? It sure wasn't God!

"Personally I have left (Hawaii) bible ...

"Life with God outside the Bible is great"
 

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Better question: Who convinced you to forsake God of the Bible? It sure wasn't God!

"Personally I have left (Hawaii) bible ...

"Life with God outside the Bible is great"
Oh the joy of journeying with God's Spirit in sweet communion and fellowship. I long for others to experience such a relationship. Doesn't this intimate connection bring so many benefits in this life. And then there's the life to come. 1000 years of a face to face relationship with our Redeemer! I'm so looking forward to the day or night we are united in this way. When faith gives way to sight.
 

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Oh the joy of journeying with God's Spirit in sweet communion and fellowship. I long for others to experience such a relationship. Doesn't this intimate connection bring so many benefits in this life. And then there's the life to come. 1000 years of a face to face relationship with our Redeemer! I'm so looking forward to the day or night we are united in this way. When faith gives way to sight.
When did you forsake the Bible?
 

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When did you forsake the Bible?
Fellowship with God's Spirit is amazing. Those who experience this will testify of this relationship. For Christ lives in me revealing His character. What a privilege it is for us who are the temple of the Spirit of Christ. I love the picture of us being the mobile home of the Holy Spirit. Like a Divine Winnebago taking the Owner to new destinations so the He can reveal God in Christ through us. Yes, God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. Now He is in us continuing to fulfil this mission.
 

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Fellowship with God's Spirit is amazing. Those who experience this will testify of this relationship. For Christ lives in me revealing His character. What a privilege it is for us who are the temple of the Spirit of Christ. I love the picture of us being the mobile home of the Holy Spirit. Like a Divine Winnebago taking the Owner to new destinations so the He can reveal God in Christ through us. Yes, God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. Now He is in us continuing to fulfil this mission.
Why do you avoid answering questions like the Devil?
 

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Why do you avoid answering questions like the Devil?
Thanks again Jack. What a peaceful thought and feeling we experience as we relax in the presence of our Creator. To not have a care in the world. I'm not sure about you but it increases my love for Him Who loves me and even went as far as to die for me. Wow! This is incredible.
 
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Thanks again Jack. What a peaceful thought and feeling we experience as we relax in the presence of our Creator. To not have a care in the world. I'm not sure about you but it increases my love for Him Who loves me and even went as far as to die for me. Wow! This is incredible.
It doesn't bother God's children to answer questions. You're obviously gonna dodge my questions so hopefully God will deliver you from your massive confusion of the Bible. I hope you're wrong in saying you will be in Hell forever and ever!
 

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It doesn't bother God's children to answer questions. You're obviously gonna dodge my questions so hopefully God will deliver you from your massive confusion of the Bible. I hope you're wrong in saying you will be in Hell forever and ever!
Thanks Jack. I am enjoying being reminded of what God the Creator has done, is currently doing and will do in Christ reconciling all of His creations to Himself. It's truly a beautiful plan of salvation. Glory to God!
 
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Thanks Jack. I am enjoying being reminded of what God the Creator has done, is currently doing and will do in Christ reconciling all of His creations to Himself. It's truly a beautiful plan of salvation. Glory to God!
Quoting you: "ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever.

MASSIVE confusion! A universalist who says all humans are going to hell forever. lol
 
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