Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

[Carl Emerson]

You should have looked at that verse you posted, about 3 posts back..........as then you would have realized that your posts you were sending, were not theologically informed, or even very well thought out.

Im glad you have now read a little more bible.

Be sure to read these to learn more about the Real God and the Real Christ The Lord, and the Apostle Paul.

Titus 1:10

2 Tim 4:14

Acts 5:5,10

Romans 12:19

1 Thess 4:6

:2 Thess 1: 8-9



If you are doing the devil's work on a Forum. (teaching a false Gospel) .......then you are a deceived Christian, or a literal son of the Devil.
So, they prove that themselves..........i just highlight it.
Ive never said to anyone here, 'you are a son of the devil".....or "you are not a Christian".

Now........Jesus declares all unbelievers........as : "You are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father, you shall do"..

So, if the Devil owns a Believers mind, they are being used as if they are a son of the devil.
If they are not born then they are literally a son/daugter of the Devil.

Hebrews 13:9... KJV.... teaches that there are man made : "doctrines of Devils'., and they will capture your mind, unless you do what that verse says to do with your "HEART".

So, a deceiver can be a christian, who is deceived by the devil...."mind blinded" and that is why they believe and teach false theology, and a False Gospel, and believe it is true and that they are "led of the spirit" to do it.



"you shall know them by their fruit"..

So, on a forum, we can't see each other in real life, so, we evaluate a person's Christianity, their BELIEF SYSTEM, = as their posted Theology, and POSTS..... as this is their Spiritual FRUIT on display for all to evaluate.
And if they post Cross Rejecting Heresy... A False Gospel.... (Hyper Calvinism.. or Baptismal Regeneration, or Universalism, ect).......and you defend them, then you are also defending their right to teach heresy... that is designed to harm the faith of real believers, and in the case of the Universalism Gospel........its designed to send a unbeliever to HELL.
I dont defend that by trying to bend the bible to do it, or by any other means. @Carl Emerson

Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Mmmm... don't see 'belief system' in the list....

Judging by the tone of your posts I struggle to see these attitudes in your posts.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

It's not the scriptures or bibles. It is far too small a supply.

Au contraire; God Precious Word of Truth Is An Inexhaustible Mine of Precious Gems Awaiting:

the diligent to "dig Them out!"​

Amen.

 

[St. SteVen]

Au contraire; God Precious Word of Truth Is An Inexhaustible Mine of Precious Gems Awaiting:

the diligent to "dig Them out!"​

Amen.

Jesus said His sheep will hear His voice.
Are you listening?

This way beyond Bible reading. IMHO

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[One 2 question]

Au contraire; God Precious Word of Truth Is An Inexhaustible Mine of Precious Gems Awaiting:

the diligent to "dig Them out!"​

Amen.

By all means stick to the written sources, 73, 66, 80 books, to number a few, of the bibles available that contain God Precious Words of Truth.

Maybe it's like with the historical Jesus, the Son of Man, when He was on earth delivering God's words He received from His Father to His own people, the Jews, in their own land of Israel, in His time, 33 years.

Was that the end of God's words of truth being revealed to the Jews? Was God not going to speak to the Gentiles? Was He not going to speak outside of Isreal? Was that it, time is up, God has pushed the mute button so no more words of God?

I recall Jesus telling His disciples the opposite. He wasn't going to leave them as orphans but would send His Spirit to teach them what He couldn't. That He had other sheep besides the lost sheep of Israel. He said go into ALL the world, to all nations.

God's Spirit has never stopped bringing new revelation to the church. God's expressed thoughts are forever being expressed from the heart of God. For out of the overflow of His heart He keeps speaking truth to His creation.

Wake up church and see, hear, know the Spirit of Truth. For He never stops leading us into ALL truth.

Praise God for His generosity in that He continues to share and reveal Himself to His creation.

 

[One 2 question]

Jesus said His sheep will hear His voice.
Are you listening?

This way beyond Bible reading. IMHO

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Of course Christ is. To listen to the Spirit Christ sent to the church is normal. I am amazed to find that those who have studied the scriptures and the bible have not got a personal relationship with Christ's Spirit.

They don't talk to Him, listen out for Him. They don't worship Him. Many won't even acknowledge Him and His existence.

They attribute so much of the evil and deception that happens within the church to Him. They call what he teaches false doctrine.

He wants to be known but many reject Him and grieve Him. Why would anyone who loves Jesus Christ and His Father want to reject Their Gift, the Divine Companion.

 

[Carl Emerson]

There is another serious aspect to this...

That which is not of faith is sin.

Faith comes from hearing the Word of Christ.

Personal works not ordained of Him and motivated by His Love come to naught.

Much Christian activity fails this basic test.

Knowing the map is one thing - walking in The Way with Him is a different matter altogether.

Very often the reason folks do not walk in His Way is because they are afraid to totally surrender their will to Him.

 

[One 2 question]

There is another serious aspect to this...

That which is not of faith is sin.

Faith comes from hearing the Word of Christ.

Personal works not ordained of Him and motivated by His Love come to naught.

Much Christian activity fails this basic test.

Knowing the map is one thing - walking in The Way with Him is a different matter altogether.

Very often the reason folks do not walk in His Way is because they are afraid to totally surrender their will to Him.

Yes, we can hear the word of Christ as a matter of course. He speaks in real time, live. No need for a delayed telecast or replay.

I listen out for Jesus's words to me each day and He speaks. I don't read the bibles any more as they caused me to get lazy in the discipline of listening and hearing what the Spirit is saying to the church and me personally. As a friend once said, it is more convenient for me to go to the bible to find answers. God can take a long time to give me a direct answer.

The discipline of patiently listening for the Spirit of Christ to communicate a specific direct personal word from Christ is worth the wait. It has saved me a lot of potential stress and wasted time.

 

[St. SteVen]

There is another serious aspect to this...

That which is not of faith is sin.

Faith comes from hearing the Word of Christ.

Personal works not ordained of Him and motivated by His Love come to naught.

Much Christian activity fails this basic test.

Knowing the map is one thing - walking in The Way with Him is a different matter altogether.

Very often the reason folks do not walk in His Way is because they are afraid to totally surrender their will to Him.

Sadly, the well-intentioned soul that wakes up in the morning thinking,
"What can I do for the Lord today?" is off on the wrong foot.
Even Jesus would not go where the Father had not directed Him.

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[Hillsage]

Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Mmmm... don't see 'belief system' in the list....

Judging by the tone of your posts I struggle to see these attitudes in your posts.

The "tone" as you put , is key in discerning when "you do not know what spirit you are of" comes in to play. And you are playing well, brother Carl. I still remember the days of LIVING in the Jesus movement. We....me anyway, had heard a 'saying' back then that still resonates as truth today. TRUE LOVE is better FELT than TELLT. Out of the abundance of your heart, some of us here, FEEL the warmth of your love.

 

[Carl Emerson]

The "tone" as you put , is key in discerning when "you do not know what spirit you are of" comes in to play. And you are playing well, brother Carl. I still remember the days of LIVING in the Jesus movement. We....me anyway, had heard a 'saying' back then that still resonates as truth today. TRUE LOVE is better FELT than TELLT. Out of the abundance of your heart, some of us here, FEEL the warmth of your love.

That is the fragrance of life to life. (this is Him working through us)

We are in Melbourne on holiday praying each day for exactly that to manifest in every encounter... (and He sets them up.)

My wife caught up with a friend from 50 years back - we shared about faith in Jesus - on the way out of the cafe I tripped and flipped right over onto concrete and got up without a scratch or a pain - I am 79 - He is ever faithful.

I just wrote this on another thread...

How does.... "God is at work within you, to will and to do of His Good Purpose - fit into your thoughts ???

Likewise "If by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the flesh, you will live"

Then this... "I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit.

Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone."

Is not our calling to walk in the Spirit which is a surrender to His Spirit and not our effort ???

 

[Carl Emerson]

Yes, we can hear the word of Christ as a matter of course. He speaks in real time, live. No need for a delayed telecast or replay.

I listen out for Jesus's words to me each day and He speaks. I don't read the bibles any more as they caused me to get lazy in the discipline of listening and hearing what the Spirit is saying to the church and me personally. As a friend once said, it is more convenient for me to go to the bible to find answers. God can take a long time to give me a direct answer.

The discipline of patiently listening for the Spirit of Christ to communicate a specific direct personal word from Christ is worth the wait. It has saved me a lot of potential stress and wasted time.

For me I have had years of preparation before being called into the service I describe, including a ton of bible reading.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

I am amazed to find that those who have studied the scriptures and the bible have not got a personal relationship with Christ's Spirit.

God Alone Is The Judge (not men, amazed or not); along with diligent 'study' according to
Bible study Rules, I also 'thank' The Blessed Holy Spirit for:

"Praying for me/Helping my infirmities By His Grace!" (# 7):

”And He That Searcheth the hearts Knoweth What Is The Mind Of The Spirit, Because He​

Maketh Intercession for the saints According To The Will Of God. Likewise The Spirit Also​

Helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: But The​

Spirit Itself Maketh Intercession For us with groanings which cannot be uttered!”​

(Romans 8:27-28) =

Believing is where God Establishes The Eternal 'Relationship' (God's OPERATION) with every
saint, so why is not 'praying ( even ignorantly?) and giving thanks' then personal communion
(2 Corinthians 13:14 AV) With The Blessed Holy Spirit, the Relationship already Having Been
Established ( "By Grace Through faith" ) By God Himself?

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Amen.

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[St. SteVen]

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How does your life experience inform your theology and doctrines?

On another thread I made this observation: "I find it interesting that our life experience informs our theology and doctrines." The person I was speaking with had a completely different life experience than mine. And these experiences had shaped their theology and doctrines. Have you given...

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[One 2 question]

For me I have had years of preparation before being called into the service I describe, including a ton of bible reading.

That's good for you my friend. But for me the way I've been prepared for serving in and outside the church is through a relationship with the Holy Spirit. I have not read the bible, as in studying it, for years.

My personal relationship with Christ and Father has definitely grown over this time.

 

[One 2 question]

God Alone Is The Judge (not men, amazed or not); along with diligent 'study' according to
Bible study Rules, I also 'thank' The Blessed Holy Spirit for:

"Praying for me/Helping my infirmities By His Grace!" (# 7):

”And He That Searcheth the hearts Knoweth What Is The Mind Of The Spirit, Because He​

Maketh Intercession for the saints According To The Will Of God. Likewise The Spirit Also​

Helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: But The​

Spirit Itself Maketh Intercession For us with groanings which cannot be uttered!”​

(Romans 8:27-28) =

Believing is where God Establishes The Eternal 'Relationship' (God's OPERATION) with every
saint, so why is not 'praying ( even ignorantly?) and giving thanks' then personal communion
(2 Corinthians 13:14 AV) With The Blessed Holy Spirit, the Relationship already Having Been
Established ( "By Grace Through faith" ) By God Himself?

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Amen.

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I wasn't saying everyone who identifies as a Christian and reads the bible doesn't have a relationship with the Spirit of Christ, but many don't.

Many won't talk to Him let along worship Him Who is God, the Holy Ghost.