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Key phrase There is a right and there is a wrong, hate begats hate, Mr. Kirk spoke a curse on himself
this proves you have not listened to anything Charlie has said at least not in context. but have bought into the lies spread against him

When you hate people. you do not ask themn to come up to the microphone to discuss what they think or feel in front of the world. You attack them and do not give them a voice. Like the killer did to charlie
 
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I think what happened to charlie PROVES we need to own guns, We have to protect ourselves and our families from people who would do us harm.

No one is elevating charlie any more than th eleft elevated a drug addict who killed himself and blamed it on a few white cops
And burned down cities because of it.

What happened with Charlie?
Flowers, songs and prayers.

The left has gone crazy.
 

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I am MORE than sure, Jack, unlike Mr. Kirk, I don't feel anyone's life is worth losing, because they have a soul, when MLK who this individual spoke vile of was assassinated because he protested NONVIOLENTLY,

There is no video of CK saying that MLK Jr, was an "awful person".
There is an ""alleged""" tape recording.

Tape recordings are very interesting, because you can manipulate them.....you can chop out pieces of the tape to change the sentences..........or literally erase parts of what is said on the tape, to then reinvent a statement.
 
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BOTTOMLINE before Charlie Kirk is an obnoxious, loud mouth, or anything else, he was a son, husband and wife, so no his horrific fate was not deserved, and prayers should be for his family, however it was spoken into existence by himself, AGAIN, THE LEFT had nothing to do with his death, a young man from a MAGA family, living in the whitest state in the union got fed up with his divisive and hateful speech, that YES, he had a right to speak, which is ironic since many are reaping the wrath of that creation in office for utilizing their right, but his words ultimately cause his death. That's it!
 

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Key phrase There is a right and there is a wrong, hate begats hate, Mr. Kirk spoke a curse on himself
Jesus said "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." It is a fallacy that hate begats hate. For the hatred was there already, on the side of the left. Because they are soulish, driven by emotions. The word of God either convicts them of their sins, or something else uncomfortable. It makes them feel bad, so they hate.

Granted hate can soke the fires of hated. But showing kindness to your enemies should be disarming for most people.

The second amendment is not a matter of emotions. Let the people defend themselves. Let criminals fear death with every violent encounter. Let justice be swift, 1100 FPS or higher.
 
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BOTTOMLINE before Charlie Kirk is an obnoxious, loud mouth, or anything else, he was a son, husband and wife, so no his horrific fate was not deserved, and prayers should be for his family, however it was spoken into existence by himself, AGAIN, THE LEFT had nothing to do with his death, a young man from a MAGA family, living in the whitest state in the union got fed up with his divisive and hateful speech, that YES, he had a right to speak, which is ironic since many are reaping the wrath of that creation in office for utilizing their right, but his words ultimately cause his death. That's it!
You have a terrible bottom line Always.
I have some questions for you....

If my having free speech and my saying publicly what I believe,
can lead to my death...
HOW is that free speech?

Do you understand that free speech means that I am free to state my opinion without repercussions?

And when you make a statement such as the one you've made,,,
calling Ckirk obnoxious, loud mouth, hateful in speech and divisive....
you're to be held accountable for such statements and you'd have to prove them in a court of law.

You say above that he had the RIGHT TO SPEAK...
BUT
you also say he is reaping the wrath of his creation.

Do you realize how illogical that statement is?

And you should also realize that this has, unfortunately, gone way beyond the left or the right.
Some line has been drawn.
What I hear now is:
MY SIDE
YOUR SIDE

One must pick their side.

And who caused this division?
The one who is speaking freely - which YOU state is his right

or

The ones who wishes to silence those speaking freely through fear and intimidation?

I'd ask you exactly WHAT CKirk said that was so hateful....
but it doesn't really matter what you think because your whole way of thinking is incredibly flawed.

I've been following CKirk for years.
There is no hate in him.

The hate came from those that oppose his BELIEF SYSTEM...
which he is allowed to have and to expose to others through our system of free speech.

FOR EVERYONE.
 
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BOTTOMLINE before Charlie Kirk is an obnoxious, loud mouth, or anything else, he was a son, husband and wife, so no his horrific fate was not deserved, and prayers should be for his family, however it was spoken into existence by himself, AGAIN, THE LEFT had nothing to do with his death, a young man from a MAGA family, living in the whitest state in the union got fed up with his divisive and hateful speech, that YES, he had a right to speak, which is ironic since many are reaping the wrath of that creation in office for utilizing their right, but his words ultimately cause his death. That's it!

God bless Charlie Kirk and his family.

He was murdered doing what God called him to do which was reaching the very deceived youth on these college campuses for Christ.


God bless America.


The devil and all his followers are liars.
 
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It is a fallacy that hate begats hate.
Not according to Matthew 5:21-22 and quoting a true leader MLK Jr. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that"

* all other comments on this thread addressing me without scripture backing will be perceived as foolish and unlearned questions and as Titus 3:9 and 2 Timothy 2:23 suggest will be ignored. Blessings to you all
 

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Not according to Matthew 5:21-22 and quoting a true leader MLK Jr. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that"

* all other comments on this thread addressing me without scripture backing will be perceived as foolish and unlearned questions and as Titus 3:9 and 2 Timothy 2:23 suggest will be ignored. Blessings to you all
You're a CHRISTIAN!!
You want to use scripture!!

What YOU should do is get to know God and His teachings.
Scripture seems to have done you no good son.
 

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Charlie Kirk, and this disgusting elevation of him, I wish death on no one, however hate begats hate, and when you preach about a false god given right to own guns, you speak into existence a curse on yourself. Yes we have a RIGHT to own a weapon, however leave our God out of it. As Jesus convicted the hearts of the stone throwers on the woman caught in adultery, why are hearts not convicted of gun owners, with an itching finger to kill another human being. Our world is in a sad state, and that should not be surprise to us we were warned that in the last days nations (people) would be against nations. True Christians stay in prayer!
What hate did he expouse?

Whats a "true" Christian? Do you decide? Should anyone care if you think anyone else is a "true" Christian
 
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Charlie Kirk, and this disgusting elevation of him, I wish death on no one, however hate begats hate, and when you preach about a false god given right to own guns, you speak into existence a curse on yourself. Yes we have a RIGHT to own a weapon, however leave our God out of it. As Jesus convicted the hearts of the stone throwers on the woman caught in adultery, why are hearts not convicted of gun owners, with an itching finger to kill another human being. Our world is in a sad state, and that should not be surprise to us we were warned that in the last days nations (people) would be against nations. True Christians stay in prayer!

Anyone claiming Charlie Kirk preached against the Word of God either (1) doesn't know the Word of God, (2) knows the Word of God and does not like what God has to say. Charlie preached TRUTH and for his faithfulness he is a martyr for Christ.
 
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Anyone claiming Charlie Kirk preached against the Word of God either (1) doesn't know the Word of God, (2) knows the Word of God and does not like what God has to say. Charlie preached TRUTH and for his faithfulness he is a martyr for Christ.

I never tuned into anything Turning point, I just never followed it, or knew Charlie was a Christian or what He preached about Jesus Christ, that was found out after someone had killed him.

He seemed to be good soul, who loved Jesus, and this country as far as I have heard from him, and others who have shared stories about him as well.
 
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Yes, haters of Biblical truth would see Charlie Kirk as preaching hate! He was martyred because he spoke truth!

Exactly,

Jesus said,

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

John said also,

1 John 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
 
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I never tuned into anything Turning point, I just never followed it, or knew Charlie was a Christian or what He preached about Jesus Christ, that was found out after someone had killed him.

He seemed to be good soul, who loved Jesus, and this country as far as I have heard from him, and others who have shared stories about him as well.

Charlie was a real danger to Bible/Christ haters! He turned and was turning more and more young college students to Biblical truth and salvation through Christ. That's why he had to be silenced! Sadly, his martyrdom is according to the will of God, because by killing him, the power of darkness will now come face to face with an overwhelming army of Charlie Kirks! So many believe his death was because of his political point of view, and that is also true, but first and foremost he was killed for being a faithful witness for the Kingdom of God.
 
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I never tuned into anything Turning point, I just never followed it, or knew Charlie was a Christian or what He preached about Jesus Christ, that was found out after someone had killed him.

He seemed to be good soul, who loved Jesus, and this country as far as I have heard from him, and others who have shared stories about him as well.
My problem with that is how can you love Jesus, whom you have never seen and not love your brother who you have seen 1John 4:20

check out some of his comments e.g. "slavery wasn't all that bad" everyone that cries out Lord, Lord???
 
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My problem with that

With what Always?

This?

I never tuned into anything Turning point, I just never followed it, or knew Charlie was a Christian or what He preached about Jesus Christ, that was found out after someone had killed him.

Or this?

He seemed to be good soul, who loved Jesus, and this country as far as I have heard from him, and others who have shared stories about him as well.
 

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My problem with that is how can you love Jesus, whom you have never seen and not love your brother who you have seen 1John 4:20

check out some of his comments e.g. "slavery wasn't all that bad" everyone that cries out Lord, Lord???
Did you check out that comment?