Rapture ... soon?

[Douggg]

It is because gog and magog are not involved in this particular war.

It's actually the set up for the next war which comes later as the moslems finally figga out they cannot beat Israel so they ask other larger nations to help with the next war aftter having had their rear ends kicked in the Pslams 83 war.

I think Bill Salus (You Tube bible commentator) is a long time believer of a Psalms 83 war. Time will tell.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I think Bill Salus (You Tube bible commentator) is a long time believer of a Psalms 83 war. Time will tell.

Yep, and since then more and more of the end times prophecy guys are agreeing with him.

One thing for sure is the Pslams 83 war has yet to be fulfilled. It is still a future event.

 

[HealthyShape]

One thing for sure is the Pslams 83 war has yet to be fulfilled. It is still a future event.

The enemies listed in Psalm 83 (Edom, Ishmaelites, Moab, Hagrites, Gebal, Ammon, Amalek, Philistia, Tyre, and Assyria) were historical adversaries of Israel. Many of these nations had already been defeated or assimilated by the time of the New Testament.

 

[covenantee]

Oh it's going to be a modern day spectacle playing out on live TV for the whole world to see

Israel's neighbors attacking them with all the force they can bring against them.... and just like the 6 day war, the Lord is going to bless Israel with the power to hand them their backside in utter defeat!

Get'cha popcorn ready, it's gonna be great! View attachment 70645

Christ incinerating all antichrists and apostates seeking to blaspheme His Holy Name, Sacrifice, and Covenant by attempting to build a third abominable temple.

The cataclysm will cause you to forget your popcorn.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The enemies listed in Psalm 83 (Edom, Ishmaelites, Moab, Hagrites, Gebal, Ammon, Amalek, Philistia, Tyre, and Assyria) were historical adversaries of Israel. Many of these nations had already been defeated or assimilated by the time of the New Testament.

And yet... look at the world today and notice Israel has the upper hand right now.

These are all moslem nations and they just cannot allow that to stand so right now they are planning to all get together and attack Israel just like in the 6 day war.

The differences is the Pslams 83 war is going to convince the entire world that Israel need to be destroyed thus it's the setup for the coming gog magog war.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I have been inundated with many Youtube videos about the Rapture happening on Sept. 23-24, 2025. But many of them seemed fake, fabrications generated by AI.
This is popular now, AI generated stories or ads that are very articulate, creative as if written by a Phd in Journalism. Adults and children telling stories of accidents, (NDE's), going to heaven, seeing Jesus and returning to give us a message can't possibly all express themselves like Hemingway with a keen knowledge of the Bible.
AI can develop a story as one prompts it with particular parameters, styles, in line with Biblical truths in such a brilliant way - in seconds - with access to and information sifted from 5 billion books. It is quite amazing. But that is the flaw in it, it is not communicated in a common way.
So after listening to many of these fake AI stories that are usually generated for monetary purposes, which have all taken advantage of this date to attract attention, I just about dismissed the whole idea. Btw, it is the Feast of Trumpets on Tuesday - which many have supposed the last trumpet would be part of.
I woke up this morning and a notion came to me. When did these stories start appearing? Recently, most of them in August and September this year. But where did they get this idea? There must have been an original claim, with a real person talking and giving his account. And I found one story. The difference is, this one is not a near death experience, it was a 2018 Vision by this South African Christian named Joshua.
I don't know at this point if he is the real deal ... but maybe? But his story is interesting, it doesn't seem fabricated, he doesn't sound like a liar. What say you?
Don't mean to freak you out ... I mean I have been talking about this for 25 years and anticipating His return. And so I feel like the boy who cried wolf enough times and after a while, when a wolf really came, nobody would believe him.
Just pray everyday, ask Him to bless your family and keep you safe. Be thankful for what God has given you. He will return soon. ??? Please read 1 Cor. 15:51-55 & 1 Thes. 4:16-17
BTW, this goes against my belief sbout the timing of last trumpet, which I have for years believed it was the 7th Trumpet in Rev. 11:15. Oh well.

Here it is: https://share.google/eCLgNLuK2SMR0klwm

*** PREMILLENNIAL SAFE ZONE, NO AMILLENNIALS PLEASE!

OOPS! Another date setter bites the dust and joins the legions of other wrong date setters!

 

[HealthyShape]

And yet... look at the world today and notice Israel has the upper hand right now.

Because of USA. It has nothing to do with Psalm 83. Today's Muslims are not those adversaries from the Psalm 83 and today's Israel is not God's people.

 

[David in NJ]

Well, calvinism is in fact a cult




Nice dodge... but you still are evading the question

In post #431
you said "God is calling out to His people to REPENT from the lie of pre-trib rapture" indicating that believing in pre-trib is sinful behavior.

So you either believe it's a sin, or you believe Christians can engage in sinful behavior and still be saved.

Which is it???




In other words, anyone who does not agree with you is not walking in love. Got it. View attachment 70639

Jesus walked in Love and He sought to correct those who are in error because He wanted them to repent of their false doctrine which will in fact keep them from entering His Kingdom.

False doctrine such as... claiming if a person does not agree to the timing of the rapture that you subscribe to they are living in sin.




You're not going to live that long so it's a moot point.

DIVERSIONARY tactics

 

[David in NJ]

Stop calling the bible fake and phony.

You can not honestly defend a postrib rapture.
You do not know the rapture verses.
But just pretend Jesus did not know what he was doing in the pretrib rapture verses.
You have never offered ANY evidence we are wrong.
You just name call and post safe generalities.

All pre-fibbers are denying the words of Christ and worse!!!

JESUS Says: Immediately after the tribulation of those days.....I Come to gather My Elect"

pre-fibbers say: JESUS is wrong!!!

 

[Muna]

pre-fibbers say: JESUS is wrong!!!

LOL! I never heard someone use that before
I thought that was cute

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

How about this wager? We bet $1,000.00 that the rapture will not happen by the end of 2028. You think it will, and I am saying let's make a bet to make it interesting. Fair enough?

Never make wagers on God's plan - that would be a disgrace. We pray, hope, have faith that His will be done. Do not mix the flesh with spiritual things.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

OOPS! Another date setter bites the dust and joins the legions of other wrong date setters!

Yes, well Joshua's prediction may still be plausible according to the Julian calendar ( 13 days behind), which was used in Jesus time. Likely, that song may be applicable.

 

[BobLynnPaul]

Never make wagers on God's plan - that would be a disgrace. We pray, hope, have faith that His will be done. Do not mix the flesh with spiritual things.

Paul did not use "soon" in the context of the rapture. He used for example "we who will remain living" and other formulations. He used the word "soon" mostly about his personal travels, like "I will come to you soon" [Paul to Corinthians].


You're wrong. ταχύ/τάχα/ταχέως in Koine mean “quickly” or “soon,” not “next” as a lexicalized sequence marker. Cite specific papyri or NT passages if you insist otherwise. Otherwise your blanket appeal to “Hellenistic Greek” and the ad hominem about someone's seriousness are unjustified.


What "my use"?

If your understanding of soon is legitimate in this context then Paul was mistaken. Paul clearly states that he would be included in the Rapture, he considered that he was going to go in the Rapture, which we all know is not true. The word soon meaning quickly is indeed legitimate. When the rapture happens, thousands of years later, it will happen quickly. What do you make of Paul saying he would be involved in the rapture?

 

[WPM]

Yes, well Joshua's prediction may still be plausible according to the Julian calendar ( 13 days behind), which was used in Jesus time. Likely, that song may be applicable.

You have more faith in that false prophet than you do in the Bible. Classic false prophets keep moving the goals posts from their false predictions. When are you going to repent and admit you are wrong? The good news about today is: the deceivers, the deceived and the gullible are all being exposed.

 

[BobLynnPaul]

Game of chance (gambling) are sinful behavior. REPENT!

What verse are you looking at that says it is sinful?

 

[Dave Watchman]

Yes, well Joshua's prediction may still be plausible according to the Julian calendar ( 13 days behind), which was used in Jesus time. Likely, that song may be applicable.

I agree. It seems strange that not everyone who was all in with this in the first time around, will not consider the Julian calendar issue now. Or at least investigate it. Like Mike at Medic4Christ. He doesn't want anything to do with it. He's out. He's closing his channel. That's it. Which would be a funny thing to do if the second coming was beginning next week. It's almost like he's mad it wasn't him who got the calendar idea. Each part of the body of Christ seems to have varied talents. I'm also a bit disappointed there's not more like you and me who wants to dig in and get to the bottom of the information, rather than just argue the doctrines of Rapture, speaking from their own theologies. Some guys don't even review the materials, but are eager to lash out at the subject matter of the OP.

But even when he was doing the livestream last Tuesday, I thought the whole thing was strange. They were making it like a game show. Joshua was all pumped up, like he was A BILLION PERCENT SURE. And MY WORDS WILL NOT FALL TO THE GROUND. The people were happy go lucky. Too giddy. Now it's changed. The people are more serious, more humble. Even Joshua in his Friday interview with the silly Cent Twins. He seemed a bit more intense, he was stern with them, cautioning them to not interrupt him, not to break the flow of his thought.

When this thing started, after I had reviewed the hours of materials, I said I couldn't find anything to disqualify Joshua. And I gave it a 50/50 chance. But right now, with the Julian Calendar issue, it looks like this all was baked in the cake. That delay in days between the two calendars. So I would have to increase my view on the likelihood of success now to maybe 60/40, or even 75/25. Like a kind of Pascals Wager, based on the magnitude of the event we are considering, it might be best to proceed as though it is a sure thing. And maybe be thankful for the additional time we have. I wonder if God planed it this way on purpose? At least we don't have long to wait this time. Next weekend should be fun, and right on the verge of a full moon.

I was reading that everyday there are roughly 360,000 new babies born. Probably some of those were meant to be our brothers and our fellow servants. They probably want to go in the Rapture too. Whether they know it or not. I have a hunch we will each have our own angel, to gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[quietthinker]

Yes, well Joshua's prediction may still be plausible according to the Julian calendar ( 13 days behind), which was used in Jesus time. Likely, that song may be applicable.

When men insist on setting dates for Jesus' return it is clear they don't take his words seriously about the matter.
When one reason after the other is used for justifying this lack of seriousness, I don't take these guys serious either.

 

[WPM]

I agree. It seems strange that not everyone who was all in with this in the first time around, will not consider the Julian calendar issue now. Or at least investigate it. Like Mike at Medic4Christ. He doesn't want anything to do with it. He's out. He's closing his channel. That's it. Which would be a funny thing to do if the second coming was beginning next week. It's almost like he's mad it wasn't him who got the calendar idea. Each part of the body of Christ seems to have varied talents. I'm also a bit disappointed there's not more like you and me who wants to dig in and get to the bottom of the information, rather than just argue the doctrines of Rapture, speaking from their own theologies. Some guys don't even review the materials, but are eager to lash out at the subject matter of the OP.

But even when he was doing the livestream last Tuesday, I thought the whole thing was strange. They were making it like a game show. Joshua was all pumped up, like he was A BILLION PERCENT SURE. And MY WORDS WILL NOT FALL TO THE GROUND. The people were happy go lucky. Too giddy. Now it's changed. The people are more serious, more humble. Even Joshua in his Friday interview with the silly Cent Twins. He seemed a bit more intense, he was stern with them, cautioning them to not interrupt him, not to break the flow of his thought.

When this thing started, after I had reviewed the hours of materials, I said I couldn't find anything to disqualify Joshua. And I gave it a 50/50 chance. But right now, with the Julian Calendar issue, it looks like this all was baked in the cake. That delay in days between the two calendars. So I would have to increase my view on the likelihood of success now to maybe 60/40, or even 75/25. Like a kind of Pascals Wager, based on the magnitude of the event we are considering, it might be best to proceed as though it is a sure thing. And maybe be thankful for the additional time we have. I wonder if God planed it this way on purpose? At least we don't have long to wait this time. Next weekend should be fun, and right on the verge of a full moon.

I was reading that everyday there are roughly 360,000 new babies born. Probably some of those were meant to be our brothers and our fellow servants. They probably want to go in the Rapture too. Whether they know it or not. I have a hunch we will each have our own angel, to gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Peaceful Sabbath.

You are making a laughing stock of the coming of the Lord. You're bringing disgrace upon the Gospel. Stop what you're doing. Think about the damage you are causing.

Why not admit this is a false prophet? You are in denial. You want to believe the lie. This is exposing the gullible.

And, sadly, still no public apologies and no repentance from any Pretribber. How sad! Every promoter of this false prophet should be banned from here.

 

[JohnDB]

Rapture theories makes God out to be a racist....

God is the author of ALL LIFE. Not just the Jews. And the New Covenant was all about the inclusion of the Gentiles. One of its key components.

And God was obviously upset with his "nation of priests"....obviously. at a guess....still is.

Somebody is really bad at maths.....because you know....
There's THREE kinds of people:
Those good at maths
Those not so good at maths.


Once upon a time.....a long long time ago.....
I met a wizard who sold me a magic eraser. This magic eraser was endowed with the magic property that it would only erase wrong answers. If I got something right it wouldn't erase it....this waybincould get better at maths.
BUT
Every time I used it,
It just erased everything.

So I never really got better at maths.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Rapture theories makes God out to be a racist....

God is the author of ALL LIFE. Not just the Jews. And the New Covenant was all about the inclusion of the Gentiles. One of its key components.

And God was obviously upset with his "nation of priests"....obviously. at a guess....still is.

Somebody is really bad at maths.....because you know....
There's THREE kinds of people:
Those good at maths
Those not so good at maths.


Once upon a time.....a long long time ago.....
I met a wizard who sold me a magic eraser. This magic eraser was endowed with the magic property that it would only erase wrong answers. If I got something right it wouldn't erase it....this waybincould get better at maths.
BUT
Every time I used it,
It just erased everything.

So I never really got better at maths.

I was trying to figure out your note here old boy. Are you suggesting the Juice don't go in the rapture?

Watch this video and you tell me. Will these Juice go in the Rapture?

Because Jesus said He has sheep in many folds, and His sheep hear His voice. When the Rapture deal happens, which I just think is a word I use interchangeably with the first resurrections from Relation 20, it's going to be a loud Trumpet call, enough to wake the dead, when people see this, like Joel 2:32 blood and fire and columns of smoke, whosoever calls out on the name of the Lord, shall be saved.

Probably be Muslims, Eastern Mystics, Pagans, even some Atheists. Like they say there's no Atheists in fox holes. Oh yes, and I'm sure there'll be a lot of last minute Jewish converts. Probably those guys in the video.