God forgives.... the Law condemns.

[Behold]

Reader.

Bible 101.


God does not define you as a sinner.
God only defines humanity as a Christian, or as a Christ Rejector ... ever since The Cross of Christ birthed the NT Church.
God only sees mankind as Born again, or not.
The question that defines eternity for each of us is this one....>"What did you do with my SON, before you died"...??
THat is the eternal question God asks, and everyone will give account, and your eternity and where you spend it is defined by your answer.

Listen,
Its the LAW and Commandments that define sin, and you as a sinner.

So, what happens when.... """"Christ is the end of the Law for Righteousness, to everyone who Believes""""?

A.) """Where there is no Law there is no Transgression""". = found or imputed.

AA.) "The born again are not under the law, but Under (God's) Grace".

So, if you are born again, and are not just water baptized, religious and lost.....then you are not under the Law......so, the Law can't define you as a sinner, or your deeds as sin.

So, THAT means you are sinless before God, cleansed by the Blood of Jesus, eternally forgiven, and the Law can't define you as anything else, because The Born again, are "NOT under the Law, but under Grace".

"well behold, are you saying that i wont do anything wrong, or i wont choose something i know is wrong".

No, im not teaching that, and the NT does not teach that,,,,,,,,, However, when you commit a carnal deed as a CHRISTIAN, you do it, "not under the Law"....... you do it... "in Christ"....... you do it, "having eternal life"..........you do it, here...

AAA.) "Where there is no LAW, there is no Transgression'"..

Now read Romans 4:8 and 2 Corin 5:19, and pay attention when these verses say that God does not Charge SIN to the born again., as i just explained to you why God doesn't and never will again.

 

[soberxp]

There is something in what you say, but I still find it strange that it is not under the law, does it not mean that it is equal to the law?

 

[Behold]

There is something in what you say, but I still find it strange that it is not under the law, does it not mean that it is equal to the law?

Moses gave us the Law and the 10 Commandments.

The reason is, the main reason is.........the Law and Commandments, show us ourselves......vs God's Holiness.

The Law and Commandments........prove to us, that we are a sinner., and that is the main reason the Law and commandments were given.

So, now that we are REVEALED as a sinner, by the Law and Commandments........we turn to Christ for Help.....for forgiveness, for Salvaiton, and once we have received it......the Law can never again define us as a sinner....

Why not?

Its because "Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the Law".

Its because "Jesus is the one time ETERNAL sacrifice for Sin".

 

[quietthinker]

The curse of the law is what?
Is it the Law itself?

 

[LoveYeshua]

Reader.

Bible 101.


God does not define you as a sinner.
God only defines humanity as a Christian, or as a Christ Rejector ... ever since The Cross of Christ birthed the NT Church.
God only sees mankind as Born again, or not.
The question that defines eternity for each of us is this one....>"What did you do with my SON, before you died"...??
THat is the eternal question God asks, and everyone will give account, and your eternity and where you spend it is defined by your answer.

Listen,
Its the LAW and Commandments that define sin, and you as a sinner.

So, what happens when.... """"Christ is the end of the Law for Righteousness, to everyone who Believes""""?

A.) """Where there is no Law there is no Transgression""". = found or imputed.

AA.) "The born again are not under the law, but Under (God's) Grace".

So, if you are born again, and are not just water baptized, religious and lost.....then you are not under the Law......so, the Law can't define you as a sinner, or your deeds as sin.

So, THAT means you are sinless before God, cleansed by the Blood of Jesus, eternally forgiven, and the Law can't define you as anything else, because The Born again, are "NOT under the Law, but under Grace".

"well behold, are you saying that i wont do anything wrong, or i wont choose something i know is wrong".

No, im not teaching that, and the NT does not teach that,,,,,,,,, However, when you commit a carnal deed as a CHRISTIAN, you do it, "not under the Law"....... you do it... "in Christ"....... you do it, "having eternal life"..........you do it, here...

AAA.) "Where there is no LAW, there is no Transgression'"..

Now read Romans 4:8 and 2 Corin 5:19, and pay attention when these verses say that God does not Charge SIN to the born again., as i just explained to you why God doesn't and never will again.

Behold, your words sound comforting, but they are not what Jesus Himself taught. The Lord never said that after the cross God only sees people as “Christians or Christ rejectors.” What He said is very clear: “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15). And again, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven” (Matthew 7:21). According to Jesus, our eternal life is not defined by repeating a claim of faith alone, but by whether we truly do the will of God.

The main message of Christ was to repent of sin and turn back to God. From the beginning He preached, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matthew 4:17). And after His resurrection He commanded His disciples that “repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations” (Luke 24:47). If repentance was not needed because sin no longer mattered, then Jesus’ first and last command would be meaningless.

You also said the Law no longer defines sin. But Jesus did not abolish the Law. He said, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17). He even warned, “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19). If the Law no longer showed sin, then why did Jesus repeatedly call people to repentance, even after forgiving them? To the woman caught in adultery He said, “Go and sin no more” (John 8:11). He did not say, “You are under grace, so sin no longer matters.”

You also said that a Christian who sins does so “in Christ” and is still seen as sinless. But John the apostle, the one who leaned on Jesus’ breast, taught otherwise. He wrote, “Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness” (1 John 3:4). He added, “Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil” (1 John 3:7–8). This is not to condemn, but to warn us not to excuse sin under a false cover of grace.

Even the Old Testament agrees. Solomon wrote, “Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is man’s all. For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil” (Ecclesiastes 12:13–14). And the prophet Ezekiel warned, “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself” (Ezekiel 18:20).

So yes, forgiveness is offered in Christ, but forgiveness never meant sin is no longer real or that we can ignore God’s commandments. Jesus said plainly, “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matthew 19:17). Grace does not erase the Law, but gives us the power to walk in obedience.

Therefore, the true eternal question is not only “What did you do with My Son?” but also “Did you repent of your sins and obey Him?” For Jesus Himself said, “Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46).

 

[LoveYeshua]

Moses gave us the Law and the 10 Commandments.

The reason is, the main reason is.........the Law and Commandments, show us ourselves......vs God's Holiness.

The Law and Commandments........prove to us, that we are a sinner., and that is the main reason the Law and commandments were given.

So, now that we are REVEALED as a sinner, by the Law and Commandments........we turn to Christ for Help.....for forgiveness, for Salvaiton, and once we have received it......the Law can never again define us as a sinner....

Why not?

Its because "Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the Law".

Its because "Jesus is the one time ETERNAL sacrifice for Sin".

Jesus never taught that the Law loses its authority or that sin no longer matters. He said, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law… I came to fulfill it” (Matthew 5:17) and told the woman caught in adultery, “Go and sin no more”(John 8:11). The Law shows sin, yes, but forgiveness through Christ does not remove the need to repent or obey God. True faith is shown in turning from sin and keeping God’s commandments. Christ’s sacrifice forgives, restores, and gives power to live rightly, but it is not a license to ignore the Law.

 

[Gottservant]

I keep looking at this thread!

The Law condemns being committed to sin. If you are not committed to sin, the Law approves.

How much does the Law approve? How much praise do you have for God?