WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

[shepherdsword]

[Numbers 15:30 KJV] 30 But the soul that doeth [ought] presumptuously, [whether he be] born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

There was no sacrifice offered for one of the congregation, or a stranger among them, to atone for willful sin.

Hebrews likewise does not offer a sacrifice for willful sinning...............[Heb 10:26 KJV] 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,.............under the new covenant there is no Levitical offering to atone for willful sin.

Where does it say "Levitical" in the text?

 

[Charlie24]

Interesting! It's like you are saying, a parakeet has to be sure to remain a parakeet, if they don't, they can fall from their perch.

When God created you as an human, did you have any opportunity to change that? Can you become non-human now? I didn't think so.

When God recreates someone, that person doesn't have any more ability to change what they are than they did before.

Much love!

You posted : "lose their way"?

Listen, Any Christian can become deceived...........just look at yourself.
You have no idea how God gave Abraham Salvation, and that its not by "works' or by "holding unto faith.."

You are not understading "imputed righteousness" that is "the Gift of Salvation."
And you are not understanding that Discipleship is not Salvation. @Charlie24

See.... you believe that what you do, is why you stay saved., and that is exactly false., and that is the carnal mindset of a person who Paul defines as "Fallen from GRACE".
See, the reason a person becomes born again, is because God accepted their faith one time, on the Day of Their Salvation.
Its done., and being born again........proves that a person's Salvation has occurred., and Salvation is a eternal Birth in the Spirit.

How long does God's Salvation last?
its lasts for as long as Jesus's Blood keeps you sinless, which you also dont understand @Charlie24


A.) Jesus's = Blood ATONEMENT, is accepted by God Forever........on behalf of a SINNER who has given God their FAITH in Christ, one time.



"Dangerous ground" is found by a heretic who comes to a forum and denies that Jesus is the Savior, which insults The Cross and God's Grace.... because they are replacing Him with "holding unto faith, and doing works and keeping commandments, and being water baptized".
See that Cross denying Heretic? They are the blasphemer and they are on "dangerous ground".

LOL, for sure I'm bound for Hell by disagreeing with Behold on OSAS.

Just keep ignoring the Scripture and we will find out shortly.

 

[Behold]

LOL, for sure I'm bound for Hell by disagreeing with Behold on OSAS.

You are only "bound for Hell" if you are this one.

John 3:36

Just keep ignoring the Scripture and we will find out shortly.

I already found all this out, little one, long ago.

Im already "seated in heavenly places in Christ'......"translated from Darkness to Light' (Into the KOG).
Im already "IN CHRIST"
Im already "One with God".
Im already BORN AGAIN
Im already an "heir of God"
Im already a "joint heir with Jesus".
Im already "Of the SEED of ABRAHAM".
im already "the Temple of the Holy Spirit".
im already "made righteous"..having become a "Saint".
Im already become "THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD, in Christ".

Every Christian has all of those in that list and MORE...

So, a Real Christian is not waiting for Salvation and Eternal life, as we have them already.

What am i waiting for?
Same as any Real Christian..
My NEW BODY and the final "conformed into the Image of Christ".

 

[Charlie24]

You are only "bound for Hell" if you are this one.

John 3:36




I already found all this out, little one, long ago.

Im already "seated in heavenly places in Christ'......"translated from Darkness to Light' (Into the KOG).
Im already "IN CHRIST"
Im already "One with God".
Im already BORN AGAIN
Im already an "heir of God"
Im already a "joint heir with Jesus".
Im already "Of the SEED of ABRAHAM".
im already "the Temple of the Holy Spirit".
im already "made righteous"..having become a "Saint".
Im already become "THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD, in Christ".

Im not waiting for Salvation and Eternal life, as i have them already.

What am i waiting for?
My NEW BODY and the final "conformed into the Image of Christ".

1 Tim. 4:1

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;"

 

[Behold]

1 Tim. 4:1

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;"

Thats you, who has been caught up in a "doctrine of Devils" as its the DEVIL who does not want you to beleive that JESUS Keeps you saved. @Charlie24

Listen...

You can't explain God's (Romans 4-5) "imputed righteousness"., but you can "Google it" and come and fake it.

You can't explain "the Gift of righteousness"... but you can "Google it" and come and pretend you understand.

You can't explain what it actually means to be born again...

You cant explain why Jesus Keeps you saved because you dont believe Jesus keeps you saved.

You read 2 Corin 5:19 and 'Romans 4:8 that teach that God does not charge SIN to a Christian.....and you have no idea why He doesn't.

You have no idea what i means to be ........"not under the LAW, but under GRACE".

You are a completely revealed Hebrews 6:1 ....and nothing more, at this time. @Charlie24

 

[Muna]

Where does it say "Levitical" in the text?

He likely means the levitial law which speaks of sinning in ignorance (versus wilfully) and there always seemed to be forgiveness for a sin through ignorance.

Lev.4​

1. [2] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them:
2. [13] And if the whole congregation of Israel sin through ignorance, and the thing be hid from the eyes of the assembly, and they have done somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which should not be done, and are guilty;
3. [22] When a ruler hath sinned, and done somewhat through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD his God concerning things which should not be done, and is guilty;
4. [27] And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty;

Lev.5​

1. [15] If a soul commit a trespass, and sin through ignorance, in the holy things of the LORD; then he shall bring for his trespass unto the LORD a ram without blemish out of the flocks, with thy estimation by shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary, for a trespass offering:

Num.15​

1. [24] Then it shall be, if ought be committed by ignorance without the knowledge of the congregation, that all the congregation shall offer one young bullock for a burnt offering, for a sweet savour unto the LORD, with his meat offering, and his drink offering, according to the manner, and one kid of the goats for a sin offering.
2. [25] And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance:
3. [27] And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering.
4. [28] And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.
5. [29] Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.

Same with the Israelites and their rulers, Peter acknowledges it was through ignorance

Acts 3:17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.

The Gentiles and their ignorance (God winked at) but now commands them to repent

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent

Earlier with the Gentiles worship in ignorance

Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you

Fashioning ourselves in a former lusts in our ignorance is also show

1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance

Paul even says, he obtained mercy because he did what he did ignorantly in unbelief

1 Ti 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief

Then there is wilfully sinning, not sure where to find that in the OT, just here

Heb 10:6 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins

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[JLB]

If you've believed in vain, that is, in a meaningless

‘If you don’t hold fast to your believing, then the believing you did at the beginning when you got saved, was done in vain.


Very simple. Very straightforward. Very easy to understand.

 

[Charlie24]

Thats you, who has been caught up in a "doctrine of Devils" as its the DEVIL who does not want you to beleive that JESUS Keeps you saved. @Charlie24

Listen...

You can't explain God's (Romans 4-5) "imputed righteousness"., but you can "Google it" and come and fake it.

You can't explain "the Gift of righteousness"... but you can "Google it" and come and pretend you understand.

You can't explain what it actually means to be born again.

You cant explain why Jesus Keeps you saved.

You read 2 Corin 5:19 and 'Romans 4:8 that teach that God does not charge SIN to a Christian.....and you have no idea why He doesn't.

You are a Hebrews 6:1 ....and nothing more, at this time. @Charlie24

It's a good thing for me the righteousness given to me is from My Father and not Behold!

 

[Behold]

It's a good thing for me the righteousness given to me is from My Father and not Behold!

And if you believed you could not lose this Gift from God, you would have taken your first step out of "baby Christianity"... false theology by now.
But you haven't yet., as you've proven by your posts.

See, you dont understand that Jesus KEEPS YOU SAVED........and until you do, then you don't understand God's Salvation, and that is "baby-Christian" 101.
Every baby Christian tries to keep themselves saved, until they get the REVELATiON of Jesus as Their ETERNAL Salvation, who is their Eternal Life.

JESUS is Salvation........not "holding unto faith".. @Charlie24

 

[JLB]

Once God has accepted a person's Faith, then its accepted for eternity.

Totally and completely false.

You have been programmed to believe the lie of Calvinism.


Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. 1 Timothy 4:1


Can you see what is plainly written in scripture.


Depart from the faith…


People can indeed depart from the faith.

 

[JLB]

You dont understand God's "Gif ot Salvation" that is "imputed righteousness

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. 1 Timothy 4:1


DEPART FROM THE FAITH.


Sorry bro, you have been programmed to believe the lie of Calvinism.

 

[Behold]

DEPART FROM THE FAITH.


Sorry bro, you have been programmed to believe the lie of Calvinism.

JESUS is Salvation, and you can't "lose" Him., if you are a Christian as "CHRIST IN YOU, the Hope of Glory"... is ETERNAL, and being "in Christ".....is Eternal.
Heretics who cannot understand that JESUS IS SALVATION.....try to prove they can OF THEMSELVES lose Salvation, and that is because they dont understsand Salvation.

 

[Charlie24]

And if you believed you could not lose this Gift from God, you would have taken your first step out of "baby Christianity"... false theology by now.
But you haven't yet., as you've proven by your posts.

See, you dont understand that Jesus KEEPS YOU SAVED........and until you do, then you don't understand God's Salvation, and that is "baby-Christian" 101.
Every baby Christian tries to keep themselves saved, until they get the REVELATiON of Jesus as Their ETERNAL Salvation, who is their Eternal Life.

JESUS is Salvation........not "holding unto faith".. @Charlie24

Luke 21:36

"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

 

[Charlie24]

Totally and completely false.

You have been programmed to believe the lie of Calvinism.


Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. 1 Timothy 4:1


Can you see what is plainly written in scripture.


Depart from the faith…


People can indeed depart from the faith.

Well said, Brother!

 

[JLB]

@Behold @JLB @Charlie24
Let us feast on TRUTH = ALL TRUTH = Matt 4:4

OSAS is the Foundation and Promise of remaining in CHRIST = key word "remaining" = John 10:27-29

OSAS 100% TRUTH = "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”

OSAS is only Valid if we remain in CHRIST = John 15:1-6
“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
Abide in Me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

“I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


OSAS is only Valid if we remain in CHRIST = Jeremiah 17:5
This is what the LORD says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the LORD."

OSAS is the lie.


And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12


The lie originated in the garden of Eden by Satan.


Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. Genesis 3:4


THE LIE = Go ahead and sin you won’t die… because once saved always saved.

 

[David in NJ]

God is the author of Salvation and Jesus is the finisher of our Faith.

Being Redeemed........Is all of God and Christ.
We can do nothing to deserve it or to earn it, and we can nothing to keep it.
They keep it because They provided it to us for FREE.......its "the GIFT of Salvation".

Salvation is a Gift that is a Spiritual Birth........and we can only receive it..........we can't DO IT, and we can't lose it.....as it All of God.

Reader notice the verse below.
Its says that a "good work" has been started in you, and ""God will be faithful to complete it".
So, He started this good work IN YOU, and He is "FAITHFUL to complete it".

What is that work?

A.) Its our SALVATION.
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"""""being confident of this, that God who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

New Living Translation
And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue his work until it is finally finished on the day when Christ Jesus returns.

English Standard Version
And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

Berean Standard Bible
being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

Berean Literal Bible
being persuaded of this very thing, that the One having begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Christ Jesus.

King James Bible
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

New King James Version
being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;

New American Standard Bible
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work among you will complete it by the day of Christ Jesus.

we can do nothing to keep it

The Scriptures of TRUTH, which i gave you, say otherwise.

Listen and Learn from the Holy Spirit = Hebrews 12:1-2

Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off every encumbrance and the sin that so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race set out for us.
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

Listen and Learn from JESUS
Then Jesus came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and said to the disciples, “Sit here while I go and pray over there.”
And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and He began to be sorrowful and deeply distressed. Then He said to them, “My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death. Stay here and watch with Me.”

HE prayed saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him.
And being in agony, He prayed more earnestly. Then His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground
He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed again saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.”

 

[marks]

LOL, for sure I'm bound for Hell by disagreeing with Behold on OSAS.

That's not what will bring condemnation though.

Just keep ignoring the Scripture and we will find out shortly.

Who exactly is ignoring which Scriptures?

Much love!

 

[JLB]

Are you trying to repost your same Posts again and again to prove you are a carnal moron, or just too lazy to think @JLB ?
Its working.

Now, Here is the answer.

JESUS is Salvation, and you can't "lose" Him., if you are a Christian as "CHRIST IN YOU, the Hope of Glory"... is ETERNAL, and being "in Christ".....is Eternal.
Heretics who cannot understand that JESUS IS SALVATION.....try to prove they can OF THEMSELVES lose Salvation, and that is because they dont understsand Salvation.

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. 1 Timothy 4:1


Can you read sir?


Please stop attacking because you are having trouble reading and understanding what is so plainly written.


What does DEPART FROM THE FAITH mean to you?

 

[Charlie24]

That's not what will bring condemnation though.

Who exactly is ignoring which Scriptures?

Much love!

Me, I'll take the blame! If that will help any.

 

[Muna]

Here is Jesus is salvation

Gal 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
Gal 2:2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
Gal 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him