John did not translate the Geneva Bible. Do not speculate what old English translators recognized.
Jesus is the Son of his God
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Yes. Christian monotheism in the 1st century was the monotheism of Jesus.
@JLB is a sincere Christian. Do you identify with him?
...and of the apostles.
I do not know him, but if he is a sincere Christian, then we are one family. Identifying with Christians is not equal to have the same opinions about everything as one individual of the group, of course.
That’s a good example of the constraints of history.
You don’t know what they recognized.
It seems you are beginning to understand that we can dismiss all your "Geneva Bible speculation" as proving nothing.
Surely. The monotheism of Jesus and the apostles is precisely the same.
He’s a non-trinitarian staff member. I’ve been in conversation with him in this thread and in the thread which I provided the link for.
Great. In that case Jesus is God and one with Father. And existed from eternity.
I’ve just well-read on the subject. You acknowledged that you aren’t. I’m sharing some of the information I’ve acquired from trinitarian sources with you and others.
Again, the Geneva Bible translators were Calvinists. They were trinitarians. By using "it" while referring to Logos they did not want to express that Jesus is not God or that He was not the Logos.
And if they wanted, they would be simply wrong. The Geneva Bible translation is not inspired or perfect.
David in NJ
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John isn’t a Calvinist. He’s a Jew. The translators understood that.
Logos = davar.
David in NJ
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Hey JESUS, who is your God?
JESUS, yeah that's My DAD, WE have been Together with the HOLY SPIRIT since ............ETERNITY
That’s right. Jesus is a Jewish monotheist, not a trinitarian. It’s the same monotheism that the apostles have.
John did not translate the Geneva Bible and had no saying in using "it" or "He" in English translations.
Jesus is no human category. Jesus is the Logos that became flesh, coming from the Father and one with Him.
David in NJ
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