Jesus is the Son of his God

[Matthias]

The Baptist preacher asks,

”To whom is Yahweh speaking?”

@David in NJ answers, “King David”.

The Baptist pastor continues,

”Psalm 110:1 is a royal psalm, which means that it’s about the king of Israel. Psalm 110 is also a psalm of David, meaning that David is its author. The person Yahweh is speaking to is a king who is a descendant of David.”

He’s right. The descendant of King David is someone who isn’t King David. Yahweh isn’t speaking to King David. He’s speaking to the Messianic king.

The Baptist preacher continues,

“Jesus Quotes Psalm 110

Jesus quoted Psalm 110:1 in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Let’s go to Matthew 22. [Read vv 41-46.] Jesus accepts that David is the author of Psalm 110 and that what he wrote is God’s word (‘in the spirit,’ v 43).

The Pharisees believe (correctly) that Psalm 110 is about the Christ (i.e., the Messiah) …”

Baptist preacher: Yahweh is speaking to the Messiah. (Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah.)

The Pharisees: Yahweh is speaking to the Messiah. (Jesus of Nazareth isn’t the Messiah.)

Other guy: Yahweh / PreIncarnate Jesus is speaking to King David, not to the Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth.

The Baptist preacher makes it clear:

”Psalm 110 Is About Jesus

Let’s return to the question we started with: Why is Psalm 110 the New Testament‘s most quoted psalm?

Psalm 110 is the New Testament’s most quoted psalm because it’s about Jesus! …”

The New Testament's Most Quoted Psalm

Psalm 110 is the New Testament's most quoted psalm because it's about Jesus!

www.fhfbc.org

 

[Matthias]

“The clause the LORD says to my Lord contains two different words for ‘lord’ in the original. The first word is Yahweh, the Hebrew covenant name for God. The second is adoni, meaning ‘lord’ or ‘master.’ So, in Psalm 110:1, David writes this: “Yahweh says to my Adoni ….’ To better understandJesus’ use of Psalm 11”:1, we’ll look at the identity of each ‘Lord’ separately.

The first ‘Lord’ in ‘the LORD says to my Lord’ is the eternal God of the universe, the Great I Am who revealed Himself in Exodus 3. This self-existent, omnipotent God speaks in Psalm 110:1 to someone else who is also David’s ‘Lord.’

The second ‘Lord’ in ‘the Lord says to my Lord’ is the Messiah, or the Christ. …”

Note carefully that the trinitarian source is telling us that Yahweh is speaking to the Messiah in verse 1. Yahweh is not speaking to King David in verse 1.

Skipping down a little, the trinitarian source tells us this:

“In Matthew 22:44, Jesus unmistakably identifies the second ‘Lord’ of Psalm 110:1 as the Messiah, and the Pharisees all agree that, yes, David was speaking if the Messiah. When David wrote, ‘The LORD says to my Lord,’ he distinctly said that the Messiah (or the Christ) was his lord and master - his Adoni. …”

What does it mean that “the Lord said to my Lord”? | GotQuestions.org

What does it mean that “the Lord said to my Lord”? What is the meaning of Psalm 110:1 and Matthew 22:44?

www.gotquestions.org

This is sound teaching.

”Yahweh is speaking to King David, not to the Messiah, not to Jesus of Nazareth” is unsound teaching.

 

[David in NJ]

“The clause the LORD says to my Lord contains two different words for ‘lord’ in the original. The first word is Yahweh, the Hebrew covenant name for God. The second is adoni, meaning ‘lord’ or ‘master.’ So, in Psalm 110:1, David writes this: “Yahweh says to my Adoni ….’ To better understandJesus’ use of Psalm 11”:1, we’ll look at the identity of each ‘Lord’ separately.

The first ‘Lord’ in ‘the LORD says to my Lord’ is the eternal God of the universe, the Great I Am who revealed Himself in Exodus 3. This self-existent, omnipotent God speaks in Psalm 110:1 to someone else who is also David’s ‘Lord.’

The second ‘Lord’ in ‘the Lord says to my Lord’ is the Messiah, or the Christ. …”

Note carefully that the trinitarian source is telling us that Yahweh is speaking to the Messiah in verse 1. Yahweh is not speaking to King David in verse 1.

Skipping down a little, the trinitarian source tells us this:

“In Matthew 22:44, Jesus unmistakably identifies the second ‘Lord’ of Psalm 110:1 as the Messiah, and the Pharisees all agree that, yes, David was speaking if the Messiah. When David wrote, ‘The LORD says to my Lord,’ he distinctly said that the Messiah (or the Christ) was his lord and master - his Adoni. …”

Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear O Israel YHWH your Elohim is One YHWH

Isaiah 25:6-9
And in this mountain
The Lord of hosts will make for all people
A feast of [c]choice pieces,
A feast of [d]wines on the lees,
Of fat things full of marrow,
Of well-refined wines on the lees.
7And He will destroy on this mountain
The surface of the covering cast over all people,
And the veil that is spread over all nations.
8He will swallow up death forever,
And the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces;
The rebuke of His people
He will take away from all the earth;
For the Lord has spoken.
9And it will be said in that day:
“Behold, this is our God;
We have waited for Him, and He will save us.
This is the Lord;
We have waited for Him;
We will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.”

Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
5Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the Lord my God will come,
And all the saints with You. = 1 Thessalonians & Revelation


Shema is CHRIST = Gospel = "My Lord and My God"

 

[Matthias]

Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear O Israel YHWH your Elohim is One YHWH

Isaiah 25:6-9
And in this mountain
The Lord of hosts will make for all people
A feast of [c]choice pieces,
A feast of [d]wines on the lees,
Of fat things full of marrow,
Of well-refined wines on the lees.
7And He will destroy on this mountain
The surface of the covering cast over all people,
And the veil that is spread over all nations.
8He will swallow up death forever,
And the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces;
The rebuke of His people
He will take away from all the earth;
For the Lord has spoken.
9And it will be said in that day:
“Behold, this is our God;
We have waited for Him, and He will save us.
This is the Lord;
We have waited for Him;
We will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.”

Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
5Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the Lord my God will come,
And all the saints with You. = 1 Thessalonians & Revelation


Shema is CHRIST = Gospel = "My Lord and My God"

Let the trinitarians teach you, then come back to me.

 

[David in NJ]

Let the trinitarians teach you, then come back to me.

The Holy Spirit is with me = i prayed to the LORD and My Heavenly FATHER granted His Annointing to me and only to those who believe His Word

 

[Matthias]

The Holy Spirit is with me = i prayed to the LORD and My Heavenly FATHER granted His Annointing to me and only to those who believe His Word

The trinitarians I quoted got it right. You’ve gotten it wrong.

 

[David in NJ]

The trinitarians I quoted got it right. You’ve gotten it wrong.

Baptists, trinitarians, Messianic, Pentecostal, non-Denominational = all have there "man-made doctrines"

There only exists One Body of Christ = Jew & Gentile =
Denominations/religions all burn up at the DOOR to Heaven so that the Blood Washed saints who were bound in them are now FREE

 

[Matthias]

Baptists, trinitarians, Messianic, Pentecostal, non-Denominational = all have there "man-made doctrines"

There only exists One Body of Christ = Jew & Gentile =
Denominations/religions all burn up at the DOOR to Heaven so that the Blood Washed saints who were bound in them are now FREE

The issue isn’t denominations. The issue is what is taught in the New Testament. You’ve set yourself against Jesus and the apostles. The trinitarian sources I quoted did not.

I’m persuaded by them, not by you, because they’re acknowledging basic facts and you’re not.

 

[David in NJ]

The issue isn’t denominations. The issue is what is taught in the New Testament. You’ve set yourself against Jesus and the apostles. The trinitarian sources I quoted did not.

JESUS says the issue is with men who form religion = "By your traditions you make void the word of God"

the Apostles Say the SAME = Read Acts and 1 Corinthians

 

[Matthias]

JESUS says the issue is with men who form religion = "By your traditions you make void the word of God"

the Apostles Say the SAME = Read Acts and 1 Corinthians

You’ve ignored the facts, invented a religion in your head, and falsely attributed it to the Holy Spirit.

Telling me and the trinitarians to read Acts and 1 Corinthians - as if we have’t - is utterly ridiculous.

 

[David in NJ]

You’ve ignored the facts, invented a religion in your head, and falsely attributed it to the Holy Spirit.

Telling me and the trinitarians to read Acts and 1 Corinthians - as if we have’t - is utterly ridiculous.

1 Corinthians

You proved the Truth that i am speaking when you said: "is utterly ridiculous"

thank you

 

[Matthias]

1 Corinthians

You proved the Truth that i am speaking when you said: "is utterly ridiculous"

thank you

You aren’t speaking the truth. The trinitarians I quoted for you and to you did.

 

[Matthias]

The ancient rabbis called it “stringing pearls”.

“… begin to study it where God began to write it, i.e., at the book of Genesis. … The Bible is wondrously self-interpretive if we will give it an opportunity, and that opportunity is afforded if in its perusal we will wisely and submissively follow the channel marked out by its divine Author.”

(James M. Gray, How to Master the English Bible, p. 23).

 

[Matthias]

Are you interested in church history?

You should know this. It‘s part of your spiritual heritage.

That conversation is over but I was reminded of it when I read the following on my X / Twitter “For you” feed this morning -

“Ministers have a duty to study church history.

They also have a duty to honor their spiritual forefathers.

In both cases, the duty is heightened as proximity increases.”

(Pastor Zachary Garris)

https://x.com/zacharygarris/status/1986464094598406642?s=61

The duty, imo, extends beyond the minister to the congregation.

 

[Matthias]

“Christianity is based on real history.” - Ken Ham