Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.

[Lizbeth]

You skillfully “demonize” the Catholic Church, engaging in blatant smear campaigns, conjuring up such monstrous accusations from nothing that you could frame an innocent book club as a criminal terrorist group with those tactics.

Yet, when it comes to Talmudic Jews and the secular state of Israel—who, by your own methods, could be depicted as devils incarnate—you speak with reverence and piety: “we as Christians should have love for the Jews and not sit in judgment over them.”

Woe to you, hypocrites!
“Blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.”

I hear you perfectly: you openly express hatred for Christians while professing love for Talmudic Jews.
You slander the Catholic Church and blaspheme the Holy Spirit, just as they blaspheme Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary.
You’re strikingly similar to them.

I'm afraid you're not being very convincing with your melodrama.

No we certainly should not be co-helpers or unequally yoked with either Catholicism or Talmudic Judaism. I have said as much already more than once on this thread, and I have been speaking out against the Hebrew roots deception for as many years as it has been since the Lord made it clear to me, and warning against being unequally yoked with them.

 

[BreadOfLife]

It's the Lord Himself who revealed to me that the spirit ruling the Catholic church is not the HOLY Spirit. He then went on to show and teach me in His word about mixture being the unclean thing we are not to touch but come out of. HE is not the author of mixture/confusion.....that comes from another spirit....Babel/Babylon. Trying to serve two masters, Mystery Babylon in bed with the world and the spirit of it. Elijah calling out to backslidden Israel, "how long will ye halt between two opinions...either God is the Lord or Ba'al is". You see, apostasy isn't always about walking away from the Lord in a blatant way, it is more subtle and deceptive than that.....it is trying to serve God and Ba'al at the same time, or worse serving Ba'al in the name of God. Mixture. Mixing the holy with the profane, which renders the holy unclean. I simply believe the Lord and am sharing this testimony. If you want to accuse HIM of blaspheming Himself, then that is up to you.

"Mystery Babylon"??
That is a title that come from the MOST debinked anti-cathoic work ever written, The Two Babylons by schockmeister, Alexander Hislop.

Really?? Peope atr STILL reading Hislop after virtually EVERYTHING in hisfairy tale book has been debunked for over a hundred years?? A former disciple of his Ralph Woodrow was SO affected by this book that he wrote his own follow-up book called, Babylon Mystery Religion. HOWEVER - after doing soj actual research, he discovered to his horror that Hislop simply made up all of the nonsesne in his book

Woodroew now runs a website apologiuzing for his book and exposes Hislop as a fraud.
I suggest YOU do yout homework . . .

 

[Brakelite]

What do you base this accusation on?

They believe that Jesus is Christ, that Jesus is God, that He died and was resurrected and they confess it. So, they are saved.

And the fruit of the Spirit is also visible in many of them, as I mentioned. Yes, they have plenty of doctrines I do not agree with, but it is also true about many protestants or orthodox Christians.

Official Catholic means to salvation denies the blood atonement of Christ, rejects the heavenly High Priesthood of Christ, and subtly opposes righteousness by faith and salvation by faith alone. Catholicism is Antichrist.

 

[Brakelite]

That is a title that come from the MOST debinked anti-cathoic work ever written, The Two Babylons by schockmeister, Alexander Hislop.

No, that is incorrect. The protestant belief that the papacy is the latest manifestation of mystery Babylon but will soon incorporate the kings of the earth as her adulterous lovers, and apostate Protestants as her daughters, is a biblical teaching, and one accepted by Protestants before Hislop came along.

 

[Chrysostomos]

"Mystery Babylon"??
That is a title that come from the MOST debinked anti-cathoic work ever written, The Two Babylons by schockmeister, Alexander Hislop.

Really?? Peope atr STILL reading Hislop after virtually EVERYTHING in hisfairy tale book has been debunked for over a hundred years?? A former disciple of his Ralph Woodrow was SO affected by this book that he wrote his own follow-up book called, Babylon Mystery Religion. HOWEVER - after doing soj actual research, he discovered to his horror that Hislop simply made up all of the nonsesne in his book

Woodroew now runs a website apologiuzing for his book and exposes Hislop as a fraud.
I suggest YOU do yout homework . . .

Thank you for clarifying the situation. Now everything falls into place.

@Lizbeth ’s claim that “the Lord Himself revealed” to her that the Catholic Church is ruled by a “spirit of Babel/Babylon,” not the Holy Spirit, reeks of Alexander Hislop’s debunked The Two Babylons (1853).

She says she didn’t know what to think about the Catholic Church until this “spirit” showed her it’s all Ba’al worship and “mixture.”
No divine revelation here—just recycled nonsense from Hislop’s fairy tale, which even his disciple Ralph Woodrow admitted was fabricated.

Her “Mystery Babylon” talk is straight from that discredited playbook.

 

[Chrysostomos]

I'm afraid you're not being very convincing with your melodrama.

No we certainly should not be co-helpers or unequally yoked with either Catholicism or Talmudic Judaism. I have said as much already more than once on this thread, and I have been speaking out against the Hebrew roots deception for as many years as it has been since the Lord made it clear to me, and warning against being unequally yoked with them.

You skillfully “demonize” all Christians, engaging in blatant smear campaigns against the Catholic Church, passing off outright plagiarism from Hislop’s fairy tale as “revelation from the Holy Spirit”—a work even his disciple Ralph Woodrow admitted was fabricated.

Yet, when it comes to Talmudic Jews, who by your own methods could be painted as devils incarnate, you speak with reverence and piety: “We as Christians should have love for the Jews and not sit in judgment over them.”

Woe to you, hypocrites!
“Blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.”

 

[Chrysostomos]

You have no clue about logic, debate or even common courtesy. If there was ever a person who fit this model it is you:

Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics View attachment 73367

Your messages completely expose you. You preach about “love” and “forgiving enemies,” but in reality, you spew nothing but insults.

That’s how I know when you’re “on the job” with your sanctimonious talk and when you’re “on a break,” letting your true colors show through petty attacks.

 

[Marvelloustime]

we are not here to find common ground .
We are not here to simply just get along .
Though i would agree there is some false accusations and name calling .
Now the RCC is deadly dangerous . If f olks got a problem with a man warning against
a place that is dangerous then that be on them .
Acting like us and mormons , us and jw , us and RCC and scores of others
all be okay . NO that is not okay .
ISEEN what mormons teach and know darn well that is deadly dangerous
so too with things the JW teaches
And OH YES so too with things the RCC has taught .
Now we gots to correct and we must warn folks .
We are not here to find common ground . We are here to preach TRUTH
and UNIFY ONLY under the truth . under THE CHRIST
under THAT DOCTRINE . anything contrary MUST be exposed with swift speed for the sakes of all .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

You skillfully “demonize” all Christians, engaging in blatant smear campaigns against the Catholic Church, passing off outright plagiarism from Hislop’s fairy tale as “revelation from the Holy Spirit”—a work even his disciple Ralph Woodrow admitted was fabricated.

Yet, when it comes to Talmudic Jews, who by your own methods could be painted as devils incarnate, you speak with reverence and piety: “We as Christians should have love for the Jews and not sit in judgment over them.”

Woe to you, hypocrites!
“Blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.”

Never even heard of this Hislop you are talking about. As I have said numerous times we should have nothing to do with either Catholicism or Talmudic Judaism. Mixture is not of God, it is of the devil, plain and simple. Jesus said we cannot serve two masters. Paul wrote that we cannot eat both the table of the Lord and the table of idols'/demons. Elijah called for the apostate Israelites to be either hot or cold essentially........to stop trying to serve both the Lord God and the god of this world at the same time, but choose either one or the other. God hates mixture more than an honest state of lostness.....that is all through the bible. He rebuked the Israelites for not discerning and separating the holy and the profane/common. Mixture (spiritual adultery) is what Babylon is all about. I'm only writing this for the sake of others reading....not at all expecting you to understand, in fact I expect you to MISunderstand just like the religious of Jesus' day MISunderstood and falsely accused Him. Your man-made religion is bereft of the Holy Spirit and that is why you remain unenlightened. The performance of rituals and membership in a church cannot save anyone.....salvation is a very real work of the Holy Spirit, not of man.

However, if I see an individual Jewish or Catholic person in need I would try to help them if I could and have done so. Not for me to judge and condemn individuals of either group.....I once was lost and unenlightened too, until the Lord got hold of me in a miraculous way, and I'm so grateful that He did. He's alive you know, and that is why after being reconciled and rejoined to Him through the Spirit of Christ, I and countless other true believers have a living two-way relationship with Him. Jesus said ye MUST be born again, and that His sheep know His voice. Your religion causes you to deny, disregard and disobey so many scriptures I'm afraid. It's like your religion and church is your god instead of the Living God. You heed and believe and obey "it" instead of Him.

 

[Lizbeth]

"Mystery Babylon"??
That is a title that come from the MOST debinked anti-cathoic work ever written, The Two Babylons by schockmeister, Alexander Hislop.

Really?? Peope atr STILL reading Hislop after virtually EVERYTHING in hisfairy tale book has been debunked for over a hundred years?? A former disciple of his Ralph Woodrow was SO affected by this book that he wrote his own follow-up book called, Babylon Mystery Religion. HOWEVER - after doing soj actual research, he discovered to his horror that Hislop simply made up all of the nonsesne in his book

Woodroew now runs a website apologiuzing for his book and exposes Hislop as a fraud.
I suggest YOU do yout homework . . .

Never even heard of it. And what is your point? So there is a book that "debunks" that idea.........I'm sure there are many more books that don't. Not to mention the very word of God, which speaks of this.

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm afraid you're not being very convincing with your melodrama.

No we certainly should not be co-helpers or unequally yoked with either Catholicism or Talmudic Judaism. I have said as much already more than once on this thread, and I have been speaking out against the Hebrew roots deception for as many years as it has been since the Lord made it clear to me, and warning against being unequally yoked with them.

as you see many now pick and choose what flavor of harlot to sit under .
But as for us , we sit under no harlot .
march onwards in the LORD dear sister . Onward in the glorious LORD .
Many will hear and reject but some will hear and receive . TO GOD, TO CHRIST be all honor .
The mix is not for the sheep .

 

[amigo de christo]

Never even heard of it. And what is your point? So there is a book that "debunks" that idea.........I'm sure there are many more books that don't. Not to mention the very word of God, which speaks of this.

men always pick and choose what other books to read that agree with their hearts desire
and teachings of where they and who they sit under .
But as for the sheep we shall test all against THE actual truth in that BIBLE .
Always men have well produced works , speeches , writings that sound so clever and wise
unto men and yet all it did was justify whatever lie they desired to be justified .
We do not sit under talmud harlots , rcc harlots or any other harlot who pollutes and twists the Holy
Words of our HOLY GOD , HIS CHRIST .
Decisions , decisions , a flavor here and a flavor there , but never able to come to the truth are many in these last hours .
And one special flavor has now come to unite them all to be as one . But that flavor shall lead them as one
RIGHT to the very day of their own destruction . Stay in the bible sister . Trench onwards in the glorious LORD .

 

[Chrysostomos]

Official Catholic means to salvation denies the blood atonement of Christ, rejects the heavenly High Priesthood of Christ, and subtly opposes righteousness by faith and salvation by faith alone. Catholicism is Antichrist.

Your claims about Catholicism are baseless slander and outright lies.

Why do you so brazenly and blatantly lie?

You’ve confused Catholics with Talmudic Jews.

 

[Chrysostomos]

See post #656

See post #667

 

[BreadOfLife]

Never even heard of it. And what is your point? So there is a book that "debunks" that idea.........I'm sure there are many more books that don't. Not to mention the very word of God, which speaks of this.

First of all - it's NOT just a book. it is the scholarly consensus that Hislop was a fraud.

You may not have read his book but you've obviously been polluted by its poison. The only people who take this nonsense seriously anymore are the Jehovah's Witnessea - butt they also believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers!

Like I said - do your homework before you post this sory of unsubstantiated nonsense.
The following is non-Catholic scholarship on the fraudulent manure of Alexander Hislop . . .

https://share.google/27JqH2QmAhRQgSQOp

https://www.christiananswersnewage.com/article/myths-from-hislop-a-call-to-examine-facts

The Two Babylons Exposed: The Book That Misled Millions | The Sacred Faith: Timeless Truths for Modern Minds

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-...why-does-it-still-appeal-to-popular-audiences

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DcbkqgefSNjI&ved=2ahUKEwjAlIefuOWQAxWZgGoFcqJLMQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2BF1GBZmPMyeU5VqSm0n0l

 

[BreadOfLife]

Official Catholic means to salvation denies the blood atonement of Christ, rejects the heavenly High Priesthood of Christ, and subtly opposes righteousness by faith

I see you're still living in denial.
Everything you said is false.

and salvation by faith alone. Catholicism is Antichrist.

If, by "faith alone", you mean a faith devoid of works - then YOU preach against what Scripture teaches.

James 2:24
“You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone”

 

[Lizbeth]

First of all - it's NOT just a book. it is the scholarly consensus that Hislop was a fraud.

You may not have read his book but you've obviously been polluted by its poison. The only people who take this nonsense seriously anymore are the Jehovah's Witnessea - butt they also believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers!

Like I said - do your homework before you post this sory of unsubstantiated nonsense.
The following is non-Catholic scholarship on the fraudulent manure of Alexander Hislop . . .

https://share.google/27JqH2QmAhRQgSQOp

https://www.christiananswersnewage.com/article/myths-from-hislop-a-call-to-examine-facts

The Two Babylons Exposed: The Book That Misled Millions | The Sacred Faith: Timeless Truths for Modern Minds

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-...why-does-it-still-appeal-to-popular-audiences

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DcbkqgefSNjI&ved=2ahUKEwjAlIefuOWQAxWZgGoFcqJLMQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2BF1GBZmPMyeU5VqSm0n0l

God's word and the Holy Spirit substantiate it. As I said, I know nothing of Hislop and "Two Babylons", not a clue. I do my own homework, in the scriptures, I don't rely on other people or scholars who write books to do it for me....my reliance is on the Lord and his word. I mention scriptures that teach a spiritual lesson and you bring me other people's books. I can only conclude you're unable to refute what I said and defend your position with scripture.

 

[Lizbeth]

I see you're still living in denial.
Everything you said is false.

If, by "faith alone", you mean a faith devoid of works - then YOU preach against what Scripture teaches.

James 2:24
“You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone”

Ah, but that is talking about works that proceed from the (genuine) faith that saves us. Which is not of our own, but is of the Holy Spirit. "Faith wrought with his works". It is not talking about our own works in trying to establish our own righteousness apart from faith like the Jews under the Law, but the works that come from submitting to the righteousness of God in Christ.....as the scripture says.

 

[amigo de christo]

God's word and the Holy Spirit substantiate it. As I said, I know nothing of Hislop and "Two Babylons", not a clue. I do my own homework, in the scriptures, I don't rely on other people or scholars who write books to do it for me....my reliance is on the Lord and his word. I mention scriptures that teach a spiritual lesson and you bring me other people's books. I can only conclude you're unable to refute what I said and defend your position with scripture.

Thats right dear sister , we sheep do our own homework , in the scriptures and dont rely upon people or other scholars who write
books . To the trenches sister . For the love of TRUTH , of GOD and HIS HOLY CHRIST , HIS holy words
we will be hated . But no marvel they hated CHRIST JESUS they will hate his sheep . Forgive all who persecute us
But NEVER conform . To the trenches the hour is late .

 

[Brakelite]

Your claims about Catholicism are baseless slander and outright lies.

Why do you so brazenly and blatantly lie?

You’ve confused Catholics with Talmudic Jews.

Not at all. The mass is an ongoing sacrifice that scriptures declare Antichrist. In place of Christ.

The Priesthood and the rituals thereof is a substitute system that denies the High Priesthood in the heavenly sanctuary and seeks to replace it. That also is Antichrist.

The confessional is a substitute for the confession of sins to God and seeking forgiveness from Him alone. For priests to presume such power is blasphemy, for the Pharisees we're correct when they addressed Jesus, "who can forgive sins but God alone?" Usurping the ministry of or High Priest in heaven is blasphemy, and Antichrist.

I could go on, but I think you get the picture.

If, by "faith alone", you mean a faith devoid of works - then YOU preach against what Scripture teaches.

Salvation does not come by faith and our works, "least any man should boast." However, we are judged by our works because works, along with a newly formed character and obedience to God's commandments, reveal that our faith is genuine.
Salvation does not come through the auspices and the approval of the bishops of Rome. We do not need your king's approval, not does Jesus need your king's agreement, before He takes us home when He comes. Your church's claim that the Pope has any say in man's salvation is blasphemous and Antichrist.
I hope I'm saying that clearly enough.