WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

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Again your 'folly' and 'stubborn' twisted interpretation, and how many times do we have to quote and explain to the hardheaded of yours?

Readers, in context to the scripture about the Gospel, the Gospel came to Israel first, and the remnant of Jewish 12 disciples and followers saved by grace for Jesus were discipled and served with Him for more than 3 years.

Did that Gospel remained in Israel after Christ's ascension, or it went to all the nations of the Gentiles, even way before Paul's conversion and his given Gospel?

Historical study show us to which Gentile nations the Apostles travelled and martyred for the same Gospel they've been discipled, they preached and made disciples with.

Go ahead, who's stopping you?

Readers, first of all, Jesus chose Paul as an 'instrument' of His, hence for Paul to bring His name to the Gentiles, kings and the children of Israel.

Is there any record that Jesus told Paul to preach his gospel to the Gentiles, and Gentiles must follow his gospel?

And furthermore record, the 12 are to preach their Gospel to the Jews, and Jews must follow their Gospel?

This is plain 'bonkers' and 'folly' on out part, continuing to help over and over again the 'blind' to see what we with vision see.

Am starting to wonder and it's been bugging me, whether it's just a strategy device by this forum officials to put us to the 'test' and 'trial'?

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord
'And I said, Who art thou, Lord?
And He said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

But rise, and stand upon thy feet:
for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose,
to make thee
a minister and a witness
(1) both of these things which thou hast seen,
(2) and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light,

and from the power of Satan unto God,
that they may receive forgiveness of sins,
and inheritance among them which are sanctified
by faith that is in Me.'

(Act 26:15-18)

Hello @Fred J,

Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ, chosen by the will of God (Eph. 1:1), and the gospel he preached was the gospel (or good news) of God concerning the Lord Jesus Christ, His person and His work,. He had two ministries, one following the other, the second being carried out while confined within a Roman prison cell, where he preached, 'the gospel of the grace of God' (Acts 20:24). Paul referred to himself as:- 'The Prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles'. and the good news that he then proclaimed was given to him by Divine revelation, and concerned the church which is the body of Christ: which was a new creation of God, following the departure of Israel into the darkness of unbelief. He made it known largely by letters to the Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Again your 'folly' and 'stubborn' twisted interpretation, and how many times do we have to quote and explain to the hardheaded of yours?

Readers, in context to the scripture about the Gospel, the Gospel came to Israel first, and the remnant of Jewish 12 disciples and followers saved by grace for Jesus were discipled and served with Him for more than 3 years.

Did that Gospel remained in Israel after Christ's ascension, or it went to all the nations of the Gentiles, even way before Paul's conversion and his given Gospel?

Historical study show us to which Gentile nations the Apostles travelled and martyred for the same Gospel they've been discipled, they preached and made disciples with.

Go ahead, who's stopping you?

Readers, first of all, Jesus chose Paul as an 'instrument' of His, hence for Paul to bring His name to the Gentiles, kings and the children of Israel.

Is there any record that Jesus told Paul to preach his gospel to the Gentiles, and Gentiles must follow his gospel?

And furthermore record, the 12 are to preach their Gospel to the Jews, and Jews must follow their Gospel?

This is plain 'bonkers' and 'folly' on out part, continuing to help over and over again the 'blind' to see what we with vision see.

Am starting to wonder and it's been bugging me, whether it's just a strategy device by this forum officials to put us to the 'test' and 'trial'?

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord
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No putting to the test!

Someone came up with this idea just about 200 years ago and I guess it sounds good to some and maybe the inventor of this idea was very charismatic (just as Augustine was for other teachings).

No amount of scripture will turn one from what they come to believe.
I've always found this very interesting.

I used to believe in OSAS until I REALLY started to read the NT plainly and simply.
Maybe I'm an exception.

Anyway, it's good to give replies for those reading along.
 
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No putting to the test!

Someone came up with this idea just about 200 years ago and I guess it sounds good to some and maybe the inventor of this idea was very charismatic (just as Augustine was for other teachings).

No amount of scripture will turn one from what they come to believe.
I've always found this very interesting.

I used to believe in OSAS until I REALLY started to read the NT plainly and simply.
Maybe I'm an exception.

Anyway, it's good to give replies for those reading along.
Hello @GodsGrace,

Forgive me, but what is 'this idea' are you referring to?

Will you please explain.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Verily verily i say unto thee .........
paul would have kicked pauline outta the church .
HOWEVER with that being said
WE HAVE DECIDED to FOLLOW JESUS is a big fat amen to that one .
In fact i can easily prove that FROM JESUS to every apostel that left us a letter to read
NONE of it contradicts one another and EVERY WORD IS meat for the sheep .
NOW t othose who t ry and omit certain lettters , IT DUE TO they lack serious understanding
or worse .
From the pages of torah to the gospels , to every letter written
of them apostles to even revelation ITS ALL TRUTH , ITS ALL FOR THE CHURCH
and not a lick of it contradicts .
SO lets learn what that means .
AND i can show us the easiest way to learn it .
DO two things .
PUT DOWN ALL comemnatires , books of men , sholarly g reeks and etc
AND pick up the bible and read JUST it for yourself .
Watch how simple things become in time . Be encouraged now .
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GOD sure is the same YESTERDAY , TODAY and ALWAYS .
And i think we ought to be SO GREATFUL HE IS .
HE ALWAYS D ESIRED GOOD for man . HE ALWAYS DID .
From adam and eve
to even his own peoples of abraham , IT WAS ALWAYS GOOD HE DESIRED FOR THEM .
TIS WHY HE WARNED adam DO NOT EAT of that tree
ITS WHY he warned even the jews about the blessings and the curses
IT was why GOD had always sent prophets to warn this people TO REPENT , TO DO GOOD
to flee the evil .
And now a word
WHY did man fall
WHY did the jews several times end up Destroyed and led captive .
AND WHY are so many now gonna wail on the DAY OF THE LORD .
CAUSE THEY WONT REPENT , cause they wo nt heed the warnings meant foer their good
cause they wont COME to CHRIST to be saved
SO WHOSE FAULT IS IT . MANS . GOD DID AND SPOKE everything that was good for man
HE even later SENT THE SON for the sake of the world .
ONLY MANY WOULD NOT AND WILL NOT . that blame according to calvin falls on GOD
BUT N O SIR . GOD warned didnt h e GOD SENT THE SON didnt he . NO the fault be on man , NOT GOD .
THE TRUTH is , TO everyone who has eternal life and will one day forever be with GOD , YOU HAVE ONLY GOD , CHRIST
to THANK FOR THAT .
to all others who end up in the lake of fire
THEY TOO have only one they can blame , THEMSELVES . GOD MADE THE WAY , HE IS THE WAY . only man love their sin .
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Hello @GodsGrace,

Forgive me, but what is 'this idea' are you referring to?

Will you please explain.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
@Doug and I were discussing the theory of dispensationalism.
(it's possible I'm referring to the wrong thread - won't go back to check)

Anyway, yes, dispensationalism was invented in the 1800's and was never taught in the church before this.

I'm very suspicious of all new teachings.
JW
Mormonism
etc.

PS
It might have referred to there being 2 different gospels.
Same difference...
 
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But YOU said it should say TESTAMENT.

The translations say COVENANT.

YOU said Jesus did NOT use the word Covenant.

HE MOST CERTAINLY DID.

"This is the blood of the New and Everlasting Covenant".
These are the verses where covenant is translated correctly

[Jer 31:31 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
[Heb 8:8, 13 KJV] 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: ... 13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.
[Heb 12:24 KJV] 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than [that of] Abel.

There is a relationship between a testament and a covenant kind of co-dependent if you will but they arent completely the same and their context determined how they were used
 

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@Doug and I were discussing the theory of dispensationalism.
(it's possible I'm referring to the wrong thread - won't go back to check)

Anyway, yes, dispensationalism was invented in the 1800's and was never taught in the church before this.

I'm very suspicious of all new teachings.
JW
Mormonism
etc.

PS
It might have referred to there being 2 different gospels.
Same difference...
Very deadly teachings i have seen within them groups you just listed .
And what many , who now embrace as one by its unity , have either never known or forgot
is
the most deadly wolf of all
is not the one who cometh and says , I AM GONNA HUFF
I am gonna puff
I am gonna b low your house d own
its the one decked in wool on the inside that is a huffing and puffing and a blowing
lies it calleth love
and from within blows that house down in upmost delusion and destruction .
 
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The big bad wolf and the christains .
There once lived a wolf and he did all he could to destroy and tear down christain churches .
And he came upon a very solid and true church .
He puffed and he huffed and he blew and blew and blew
but that house could not come down .
So one day he comes up with a bright idea
One day a sheep shows up at the doors of the mighty church
and it says alas
I am a traveler that can show you how to build a greater and even mightier house
than your original founder and his blue prints have left you .
Now this h ouse will not only grow in numbers but in strenght .
So in he comes and he begins to lay the ground work slowly .
He says , Okay we have a problem , some of these fundamental
parts of this building have got to go so we can replace them with stronger ones to hold .
In time he begins having them tear down walls
and rebuild barriers . This morter has to go he says , Oh these bricks over here has to go .
They are in the way and unecessary , they are old and outdated
LET us build back better he says .
And in time more and more of the fundamental works are removed .
And more and more of the hay is put into its place .
Then one day the sheep says , alas its t ime for me to go now and i leave with you
a strong and mighty newly built HOUSE .
So out the sheep does go and into the forest he d oes head .
And soon a pack of wolves show up
and they see their new leader pull off his wool coat
and say to the wolves , HEY its dinner time
as they are all laughing at the straw shack IT HAD BUILT for them . WE better watch out
THEY DECIEVED US ALL MY FRIENDS . z
 

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Historical study show us to which Gentile nations the Apostles travelled and martyred for the same Gospel they've been discipled, they preached and made disciples with.
Peter and the apostles gave up going to the heathen Gentile nations............[Gal 2:9 KJV] 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

The travels of the twelve are based on tradition not history not scripture
 

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Historical study show us to which Gentile nations the Apostles travelled and martyred for the same Gospel they've been discipled, they preached and made disciples with.
The apostles did go to Judea and Samaria, Jesus said to.....................[Act 1:8 KJV] 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

There is no scripture that Thomas went to Parthia
none on Andrew going to Scythia
none on John in Asia or Ephesus
Peter did go to Antioch in Galatia
[1Pe 1:1 KJV] 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,...............there is nothing stated that Peter went to/or established these churches. He merely wrote to them. These were Jewish churches comprised of Jews scattered by persecution so Peter would not be going to the Gentile nations
 

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@Doug and I were discussing the theory of dispensationalism.
(it's possible I'm referring to the wrong thread - won't go back to check)

Anyway, yes, dispensationalism was invented in the 1800's and was never taught in the church before this.

I'm very suspicious of all new teachings.
JW
Mormonism
etc.

PS
It might have referred to there being 2 different gospels.
Same difference...
Please tell me if you belong to a church denomination and if so which one
 

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Hebrews 10​

New King James Version​

Animal Sacrifices Insufficient​

1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once [a]purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.

Christ’s Death Fulfills God’s Will​

5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’ ”
8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, [b]O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been [c]sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Christ’s Death Perfects the Sanctified​

11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being [d]sanctified.
15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before,
16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is [e]remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.

Hold Fast Your Confession​

19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness[f] to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

The Just Live by Faith​

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” [g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32 But recall the former days in which, after you were [h]illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings: 33 partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated; 34 for you had compassion on [i]me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your [j]goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves [k]in heaven. 35 Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward. 36 For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:
37 “For yet a little while,
And He[l] who is coming will come and will not [m]tarry.
38 Now the[n] just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”
39 But we are not of those who draw back to [o]perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
 

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These are the verses where covenant is translated correctly

[Jer 31:31 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
[Heb 8:8, 13 KJV] 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: ... 13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.
[Heb 12:24 KJV] 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than [that of] Abel.

There is a relationship between a testament and a covenant kind of co-dependent if you will but they arent completely the same and their context determined how they were used
I agree that that Testament and Covenant are not exactly the same.

However, what you're saying now is that all the versions (which are 95%) are using the word COVENANT incorrectly.
I also understand that the verses you've listed are speaking of Covenant as in an agreement between God and man...whether it be bilateral or unilateral.

However, note that Heb 12:24 does state that Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant....
Jesus said the wine was His blood of the New Covenant...

and, I believe you've been given enough verses to show that everyone can be a member of the New Covenant.

I believe I've already posted:

Acts 1:8
8 but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth."


Jesus said the above.

He also stated THIS at the beginning of His ministry:

John 3:14.15
14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
15
so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.


The above is referring to the cross...
and to how whoever believes will have eternal life.


Dispensationalism seems to allow for 2 plans....
Plan A failed....so now God must put into effect Plan B.
 

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@Doug and I were discussing the theory of dispensationalism.
(it's possible I'm referring to the wrong thread - won't go back to check)

Anyway, yes, dispensationalism was invented in the 1800's and was never taught in the church before this.

I'm very suspicious of all new teachings.
JW
Mormonism
etc.

PS
It might have referred to there being 2 different gospels.
Same difference...
Hello @GodsGrace,

There is no theory of dispensationalism. The Bible itself refers to dispensations, in:-

'For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward:
but if against my will,
a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.'

(1Cor.9:17)

'That in the dispensation of the fulness of times
He might gather together in one all things in Christ,
both which are in heaven, and which are on earth;
even in Him:'

(Eph.1:10 )

'If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God
which is given me to you-ward:'

(Eph.3:2 )

'Whereof I am made a minister,
according to the dispensation of God
which is given to me for you,

to fulfil the word of God;'

(Col.1:25)

* It is a stewardship. an administration.(G3622).

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Please tell me if you belong to a church denomination and if so which one
Sure.
Happy to.
Catholic
Nazarene
Assy of God

At different times during a 50 year period.

Each one had teachings upon which they heavily relied.
The CC had teachings that cannot be found, easily, in scripture.

But none of the 3 taught heresy.1547
Hello @GodsGrace,

There is no theory of dispensationalism. The Bible itself refers to dispensations, in:-

'For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward:
but if against my will,
a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.'

(1Cor.9:17)

'That in the dispensation of the fulness of times
He might gather together in one all things in Christ,
both which are in heaven, and which are on earth;
even in Him:'

(Eph.1:10 )

'If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God
which is given me to you-ward:'

(Eph.3:2 )

'Whereof I am made a minister,
according to the dispensation of God
which is given to me for you,

to fulfil the word of God;'

(Col.1:25)

* It is a stewardship. an administration.(G3622).

In Christ Jesus
Chris
This is 1 Corinthians 9:17 from biblehub:



New International Version
If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me.

New Living Translation
If I were doing this on my own initiative, I would deserve payment. But I have no choice, for God has given me this sacred trust.

English Standard Version
For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward, but if not of my own will, I am still entrusted with a stewardship.

Berean Standard Bible
If my preaching is voluntary, I have a reward. But if it is not voluntary, I am still entrusted with a responsibility.

Berean Literal Bible
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if unwillingly, I am entrusted with a stewardship.

King James Bible
For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

New King James Version
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a stewardship.

New American Standard Bible
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a commission nonetheless.

NASB 1995
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

NASB 1977
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

Legacy Standard Bible
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

Amplified Bible
For if I do this work of my own free will, then I have a reward; but if it is not of my will [but by God’s choosing], I have been entrusted with a [sacred] stewardship.

Christian Standard Bible
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward, but if unwillingly, I am entrusted with a commission.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward, but if unwillingly, I am entrusted with a stewardship.

American Standard Version
For if I do this of mine own will, I have a reward: but if not of mine own will, I have a stewardship intrusted to me.

Contemporary English Version
If I preach because I want to, I will be paid. But even if I don't want to, it is still something God has sent me to do.

English Revised Version
For if I do this of mine own will, I have a reward: but if not of mine own will, I have a stewardship intrusted to me.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
If I spread the Good News willingly, I'll have a reward. But if I spread the Good News unwillingly, I'm [only] doing what I've been entrusted to do.

Good News Translation
If I did my work as a matter of free choice, then I could expect to be paid; but I do it as a matter of duty, because God has entrusted me with this task.

International Standard Version
For if I preach voluntarily, I get a reward, but if I am unwilling to do it, I am still entrusted with that obligation.

NET Bible
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward. But if I do it unwillingly, I am entrusted with a responsibility.

New Heart English Bible
For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward. But if not of my own will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

Webster's Bible Translation
For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed to me.

Weymouth New Testament
And if I preach willingly, I receive my wages; but if against my will, a stewardship has nevertheless been entrusted to me.
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
If my preaching is voluntary, I have a reward. But if it is not voluntary, I am still entrusted with a responsibility.

World English Bible
For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward. But if not of my own will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.
 

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Hello @GodsGrace,

There is no theory of dispensationalism. The Bible itself refers to dispensations, in:-

'For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward:
but if against my will,
a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.'

(1Cor.9:17)

'That in the dispensation of the fulness of times
He might gather together in one all things in Christ,
both which are in heaven, and which are on earth;
even in Him:'

(Eph.1:10 )

'If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God
which is given me to you-ward:'

(Eph.3:2 )

'Whereof I am made a minister,
according to the dispensation of God
which is given to me for you,

to fulfil the word of God;'

(Col.1:25)

* It is a stewardship. an administration.(G3622).

In Christ Jesus
Chris
Ditto for Ephesians 1:10 and Col 1:25

Apparently you and Doug are using the same version.

Because a word appears in the NT does not mean that a new teaching is to be built around it.

The translators have determined that the translations I posted above (a long list) are more representative of what the writer meant.

As I've stated,,,,
I don't believe ANY new teaching that has come about recently and that was not taught in the early church.
I do not trust John Nelson Darby from the 1800's.
 
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Sure.
Happy to.
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At different times during a 50 year period.

Each one had teachings upon which they heavily relied.
The CC had teachings that cannot be found, easily, in scripture.

But none of the 3 taught heresy.1547

This is 1 Corinthians 9:17 from biblehub:



New International Version
If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me.

New Living Translation
If I were doing this on my own initiative, I would deserve payment. But I have no choice, for God has given me this sacred trust.

English Standard Version
For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward, but if not of my own will, I am still entrusted with a stewardship.

Berean Standard Bible
If my preaching is voluntary, I have a reward. But if it is not voluntary, I am still entrusted with a responsibility.

Berean Literal Bible
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if unwillingly, I am entrusted with a stewardship.

King James Bible
For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

New King James Version
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a stewardship.

New American Standard Bible
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a commission nonetheless.

NASB 1995
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

NASB 1977
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

Legacy Standard Bible
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

Amplified Bible
For if I do this work of my own free will, then I have a reward; but if it is not of my will [but by God’s choosing], I have been entrusted with a [sacred] stewardship.

Christian Standard Bible
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward, but if unwillingly, I am entrusted with a commission.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
For if I do this willingly, I have a reward, but if unwillingly, I am entrusted with a stewardship.

American Standard Version
For if I do this of mine own will, I have a reward: but if not of mine own will, I have a stewardship intrusted to me.

Contemporary English Version
If I preach because I want to, I will be paid. But even if I don't want to, it is still something God has sent me to do.

English Revised Version
For if I do this of mine own will, I have a reward: but if not of mine own will, I have a stewardship intrusted to me.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
If I spread the Good News willingly, I'll have a reward. But if I spread the Good News unwillingly, I'm [only] doing what I've been entrusted to do.

Good News Translation
If I did my work as a matter of free choice, then I could expect to be paid; but I do it as a matter of duty, because God has entrusted me with this task.

International Standard Version
For if I preach voluntarily, I get a reward, but if I am unwilling to do it, I am still entrusted with that obligation.

NET Bible
For if I do this voluntarily, I have a reward. But if I do it unwillingly, I am entrusted with a responsibility.

New Heart English Bible
For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward. But if not of my own will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.

Webster's Bible Translation
For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed to me.

Weymouth New Testament
And if I preach willingly, I receive my wages; but if against my will, a stewardship has nevertheless been entrusted to me.
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
If my preaching is voluntary, I have a reward. But if it is not voluntary, I am still entrusted with a responsibility.

World English Bible
For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward. But if not of my own will, I have a stewardship entrusted to me.
You give a good argument to stick with the King James.

Regardless of how they are translating this, whether responsibility, or stewardship, or "still something", it's from oikenomia, "house law", that is, the manner of running a household to provide for the needs of the occupants. The "dispensation", that is, the dispensing of what is needed for the household.

And in fact there were various ways employed by God towards taking care of the Humans He had made. In the garden, God gave man 1 rule. When he disobeyed, God gave a new set of rules. After the flood, God gave Noah different rules, one's He had not given before.

Each of these are a change in God's manner dispensing grace and justice to man. When God gave the Law, the rules changed, and this is a despensation.

Dispensations are written into the Bible, there is no way around that fact.

Much love!
 
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Because a word appears in the NT does not mean that a new teaching is to be built around it.
Actually, it's by the words used in the Bible that we know God's teaching. Dispensations have been in the Bible since it was written, there is nothing new here.

Well, the new thing, comparatively speaking, is the belief that God is done with Israel, the children of Jacob, which seems to be the primary objection to "dispensations". I'm not saying this is your objection, only that I see it a lot.

Much love!