Was Jesus Orthodox? (or Baptist?)

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Jesus is God. You're not Jesus. Jesus COMMANDED us to LOVE our enemies! Not a request. Jesus is a Jew!
The time for love of the serpents and vipers was long past, as Jesus demonstrated.

The scribes and Pharisees were Jews. Their ancestry did not save them then, and does not save them now.

John 8
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
 

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The time for love of the serpents and vipers was long past, as Jesus demonstrated.

The scribes and Pharisees were Jews. Their ancestry did not save them then, and does not save them now.

John 8
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Matthew 6:14-15
14 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Good luck on Judgment Day!
 

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Matthew 6:14-15
14 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Good luck on Judgment Day!
Obviously you have no idea what this was about.

This was not sin against mortal man, but against the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Jesus did not forgive the scribes and Pharisees who committed it. Instead, He condemned them to hell.
He did not forgive them just or simply because they were Jews.

In the future, you should leave what you cannot understand to those who can.
 
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Obviously you have no idea what this was about.
Matthew 6:15
15 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
This was not sin against mortal man, but against the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Jesus did not forgive the scribes and Pharisees who committed it. Instead, He condemned them to hell.
He did not forgive them just or simply because they were Jews.

In the future, you should leave what you cannot understand to those who can.
Why would I want advice from someone filled with hate?
 

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Matthew 6:15
15 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Why would I want advice from someone filled with hate?
Psalm 139
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
 

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Psalm 139
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
David didn't know about the New Covenant. He slaughtered the enemies of Israel. He was commanded by God under the Law of Moses!

Give us some New Covenant for Christians! Don't have any? Of course you don't. YOUR doctrine or HATE is not Christian. Your doctrine of HATE is SATANIC!
 

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David didn't know about the New Covenant. He slaughtered the enemies of Israel. He was commanded by God under the Law of Moses!

Give us some New Covenant for Christians! Don't have any? Of course you don't. YOUR doctrine or HATE is not Christian. Your doctrine of HATE is SATANIC!
You still don't get it.

The issue is with those who hate Christ.

They sin against Christ, not us.

There's nothing for us to forgive, because the sin is not against us, it is against Christ.

Explain with Scripture how to forgive sin which is against Christ, not against us.

Christ did not forgive the scribes and Pharisees who sinned against Him.

He condemned them to hell.
 

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You still don't get it.

The issue is with those who hate Christ.

They sin against Christ, not us.

There's nothing for us to forgive, because the sin is not against us, it is against Christ.

Explain with Scripture how to forgive sin which is against Christ, not against us.

Christ did not forgive the scribes and Pharisees who sinned against Him.

He condemned them to hell.
But I do get it. YOU said you HATE them! Just the opposite of Christian!

Christians LOVE their enemies!
 

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But I do get it. YOU said you HATE them! Just the opposite of Christian!

Christians LOVE their enemies!
Hopeless.

They're not our enemies. They're Christ's enemies.

Are you saying that we are to love and forgive Christ's enemies??

Scripture for that??
 

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EXACTLY!

Good luck with your doctrine of HATE!

Luke 6:27
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Even more hopeless. :laughing:

So this is your version of Luke 6:27:

Luke 6:27
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love Christ's enemies, do good to them which hate Christ,
 

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Even more hopeless. :laughing:

So this is your version of Luke 6:27:

Luke 6:27
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love Christ's enemies, do good to them which hate Christ,
Christ's enemies are our enemies. Hatred is SATANIC!

Luke 6:27
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
 

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Christ's enemies are our enemies. Hatred is SATANIC!

Luke 6:27
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Have fun loving your Christ-haters.

They'll thank you for it.

From hell. :laughing: