Why mRNA vaccines are so dangerous -- the science

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Grailhunter

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Tens of thousands died because of bad advice concerning Covid 19. Unless someone with Covid sneezes in your face, Covid is not an airborne contagion. Even if it was it is so small that it can easily pass through any recommended mask, much less the sides of the mask. If Covid had hands it could walk 50 across through a mask side by side and never touch the fibers of the mask.

Covid is passed through touch. They should have recommended using surgical gloves. Put them on when you leave the house and throw them in the trash before entering your house. Keep your hands away from your face.

Covid vaccines work for some and disable some.
 

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if it is in a picture, it must be true.

Regarding your misleading signature... which is obvious when you do not even include the entire sentence of any context. Google AI:

The statement, "Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV [SARS-CoV-2] were available," appeared in early scientific and public health documents, notably those from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other research groups in early 2020.
This phrase meant that at the very beginning of the pandemic, when diagnostic tests were being rapidly developed, a known quantity of the live, isolated virus was not yet widely accessible to all laboratories and health agencies for test validation.


Stop misleading people. If anyone thinks that means there is no virus they need to get some critical thinking skills.

Quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV [SARS-CoV-2] were available. How does someone even look at that and go... oh, the virus must not exist. Since no toilet paper was available at the store it means it never existed!!!
 

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God speaks to His own. Here is your verse. The Holy Spirit speaks alright, if you are Christian, you just aren't listening because of unbelief.

John 16:13 - However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

Are you sure it was God and not just your imagination.... because you got COVID.
 

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Tens of thousands died because of bad advice concerning Covid 19.

You are 100% right! They listened to idiots that said science bad, trust God. The funeral business made quite a killing. The bad thing is that people with health conditions were exposed and died.


Unless someone with Covid sneezes in your face, Covid is not an airborne contagion.

You are 100% WRONG. It is spread by droplets you breath out.

Even if it was it is so small that it can easily pass through any recommended mask, much less the sides of the mask.

Your knowledge is astounding. What wacky website did you get this?
The virus is spread by water droplets, which masks helped contain. The virus, on its own, could technically go through the mask. But it was spread by droplets.



Covid is passed through touch. They should have recommended using surgical gloves. Put them on when you leave the house and throw them in the trash before entering your house. Keep your hands away from your face.

Nope, that is total bunk. That could be the case in some instances, but generally it is from inhaling droplets from an infected person.
 

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Stop misleading people. If anyone thinks that means there is no virus they need to get some critical thinking skills.
I don't think anybody said there is no virus.
I think it was about the shots and the booster shots.
 

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Regarding your misleading signature... which is obvious when you do not even include the entire sentence of any context. Google AI:

This phrase meant that at the very beginning of the pandemic, when diagnostic tests were being rapidly developed, a known quantity of the live, isolated virus was not yet widely accessible to all laboratories and health agencies for test validation.
"...a known quantity of the live, isolated virus was not yet widely accessible... "

Chihuahua, if your so-called corona virus actually exists, then WHERE is a sample of it? Just ONE SAMPLE will suffice.

Stop misleading people. If anyone thinks that means there is no virus they need to get some critical thinking skills.
Chihuahua, WHERE IS THE VIRUS? Please show all of us your source of WHERE that elusive isolated corona virus sample is located!

It's supposedly the world's most infamous contagion of all time, but because you can't produce proof of just ONE SAMPLE of the so-called corona virus, it is YOU who are "misleading people" here by assuming it exists.

Quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV [SARS-CoV-2] were available.
Says who? You? You have been deceived.

BTW, that clever piece of deception [re: page 41 of CDC's document mentioned in my signature] has been updated 8 TIMES in the past 6 YEARS. You'd think over the last 6 YEARS they would have "found" the "widely accessible" so-called corona virus somewhere and isolated a single sample for us dummies...

If Covid had hands it could walk 50 across through a mask side by side and never touch the fibers of the mask.

Covid is passed through touch. They should have recommended using surgical gloves. Put them on when you leave the house and throw them in the trash before entering your house. Keep your hands away from your face.

Covid vaccines work for some and disable some.
That is all pap and propaganda. You are repeating the mere opinions of others and spewing the rhetoric of the talking-head MSM.

I don't think anybody said there is no virus.
There is no virus. Please prove otherwise by providing any source that claims to have an isolated sample of it. Even the "fact checkers" admit they don't have any sample of the so-called corona virus:

"...the CDC have used 'transcribed' RNA as the positive control - which means they used synthetically produced genetic material identical to that carried by the virus." - source. They are admitting they do not possess a sample of any so-called corona virus.

But wait! There's more! The very last sentence of the wicked "fact checkers" piece tries to 'kitchen sink' the hoax with this bald-faced lie:
"There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world”, he said.

O contrare! NOT ONE LABORATORY WORLDWIDE has any "stock" of any so-called corona virus:

FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (225 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever:​


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Your knowledge is astounding. What wacky website did you get this?
The virus is spread by water droplets, which masks helped contain. The virus, on its own, could technically go through the mask. But it was spread by droplets.

And that belief is why so many died.
 

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Are you sure it was God and not just your imagination.... because you got COVID.
Absolutely, positively, without a doubt. The Holy Spirit has not stopped talking to God's people. John 16:13 is true, Jesus didn't stutter, He said the Holy Spirit will talk to you and tell you what is to come. Do you actually think Christians don't get sick? We live in our sin bodies that is decaying daily, (2 Cor. 4:16), but our Spirit is renewed daily and also in 1 Corinthians 12:9- Jesus said, "My strength is made perfect in weakness". So, when you are sick Jesus is stronger in you. I Corinthians 6:4 - In everything we do, we show that we are true ministers of God. We patiently endure troubles and hardships and calamities of every kind. (and sickness)
 

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I don't think anybody said there is no virus.
I think it was about the shots and the booster shots.

"CDC admits the virus does not exist. Buried deep in its infamous document, "CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)", Revision #8, dated 2023, page 40, we read this: “Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV [SARS-CoV-2] were available..." IOW, THERE IS NO VIRUS. "Fact checkers" <link> admit CDC substituted "synthetically produced genetic material". Bottom line: No one in the world has a sample of any "coronavirus""
 

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"...a known quantity of the live, isolated virus was not yet widely accessible... "

Chihuahua, if your so-called corona virus actually exists, then WHERE is a sample of it? Just ONE SAMPLE will suffice.

"A known quantity of the live isolated virus was not yet widely accessible." How on Earth do you get that the virus does not exist out of that?
I can go into just about any major hospital and get you a sputum sample. I test the darn thing. That would violate a lot of policies. You put the swab into the sputum and the molecular test 45 minutes goes positive! He got COVID. Or you can do a rapid test too.

Chihuahua, WHERE IS THE VIRUS? Please show all of us your source of WHERE that elusive isolated corona virus sample is located!

The virus can be found in the sputum samples of patients that tested positive for COVID.
You can also determine if the patient had COVID by checking for COVID IgG in their serum/plasma in an immunoassay analyzer. Can you tell me how the analyzer gives you a quantitative result? If there is no virus, why are antibodies to it being produced?

It's supposedly the world's most infamous contagion of all time, but because you can't produce proof of just ONE SAMPLE of the so-called corona virus, it is YOU who are "misleading people" here by assuming it exists.

It does exist, you can test for it. You are misleading people in claiming the low availability at the time of COVID in a specific state means that it does not exist. When the College of American Pathologists sends multiple test samples for proficiency test and you run them on a PCR analyzer and also using rapid test with 1 showing positive for both, 2 both negative, 3 positive, 4 negative... Then the next day you are bored and run the four samples using both methods and get the same result... how does that work, exactly? Then you call your buddy and he uses two different testing methods from another company and he says yay, same here.
Says who? You? You have been deceived.

BTW, that clever piece of deception [re: page 41 of CDC's document mentioned in my signature] has been updated 8 TIMES in the past 6 YEARS. You'd think over the last 6 YEARS they would have "found" the "widely accessible" so-called corona virus somewhere and isolated a single sample for us dummies...

Yeah, updates exist.

That is all pap and propaganda. You are repeating the mere opinions of others and spewing the rhetoric of the talking-head MSM.

No, you are taking one thing to mean another.
I TEST COVID. Tell me what magic can be used to go... this test shows positive for COVID and when the patient is better, the antibody test show positive for anti-COVID IgG?

There is no virus. Please prove otherwise by providing any source that claims to have an isolated sample of it. Even the "fact checkers" admit they don't have any sample of the so-called corona virus:

I'd take a picture but that sort of violates HIPAA. Here is one from the interwebs:
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"We collected samples of 275 suspected patients from hospitals and healthcare centers to investigate the diagnostic accuracy of HARDSON COVID-19 Antigen Rapid Test Kit"
"...the CDC have used 'transcribed' RNA as the positive control - which means they used synthetically produced genetic material identical to that carried by the virus." - source. They are admitting they do not possess a sample of any so-called corona virus.

But wait! There's more! The very last sentence of the wicked "fact checkers" piece tries to 'kitchen sink' the hoax with this bald-faced lie:
"There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world”, he said.

O contrare! NOT ONE LABORATORY WORLDWIDE has any "stock" of any so-called corona virus:

Oh, someone inform the author. Also, call up hospitals and let them know they don't have any samples with COVID.

This following "article" is meaningless nonsense questioning the purification of COVID for research purposes. Even if the methods of isolation were invalid, it doesn't question the existence of the virus.

FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (225 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever:​

 

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Absolutely, positively, without a doubt. The Holy Spirit has not stopped talking to God's people. John 16:13 is true, Jesus didn't stutter, He said the Holy Spirit will talk to you and tell you what is to come. Do you actually think Christians don't get sick? We live in our sin bodies that is decaying daily, (2 Cor. 4:16), but our Spirit is renewed daily and also in 1 Corinthians 12:9- Jesus said, "My strength is made perfect in weakness". So, when you are sick Jesus is stronger in you. I Corinthians 6:4 - In everything we do, we show that we are true ministers of God. We patiently endure troubles and hardships and calamities of every kind. (and sickness)

Yaaa... but you got COVID. If the hospital says you got COVID, it is because it was tested and you had COVID.
 

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Now you just want to argue.

No, you tested positive for COVID. If the doctor told you that you have COVID, it was done with PCR, that is, a molecular test. This involves the same technology used in criminal cases to sentence people to a life or a death sentence, or determine paternity for child support.
 

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That's all he does, noise based on man's opinion.
MUTE fixed the Chi problem, he's now all yours :woohoo!:

If you want to chime in instead of replying to posts that are replying to me, encouraging to ignore me (I think there are a few words for that) you are welcome to help him explain how the same technology that puts people in prison, or to the gas chamber, or otherwise has legal consequences is not effective in determining qualitative COVID tests.
 

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"A known quantity of the live isolated virus was not yet widely accessible." How on Earth do you get that the virus does not exist out of that?
"How on Earth do you get the idea that the virus [DOES] exist out of that?"

The key phrase there is: “Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available…”

Every object that exists can be quantified, which is to say, measured. The use of the term “quantified” in that phrase means: the CDC has no measurable amount of the virus, because it is unavailable. THE CDC HAS NO VIRUS.

A further tip-off is the use of the word "isolates.” This means NO ISOLATED VIRUS IS AVAILABLE.

Another way to put it: NO ONE HAS AN ISOLATED SPECIMEN OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS.

NO ONE HAS ISOLATED THE COVID-19 VIRUS.

THEREFORE, NO ONE HAS PROVED THAT IT EXISTS.

As if this were not enough of a revelation to shock the world, the CDC goes on to say they are presenting a diagnostic PCR test to detect the virus-that-hasn’t-been-isolated…and the test is looking for RNA which is PRESUMED to come from the virus that hasn’t been proved to exist.

And using this test, the CDC and every other public health agency in the world are counting COVID cases and deaths…and governments have instituted lockdowns and economic devastation using those case and death numbers as justification.

If people believe “you have the virus but it is not available,” and you have the virus except it is buried within other material and hasn’t been extracted and purified and isolated, these people believe the moon is made of green cheese.

This is like saying, “We have the 20 trillion dollars, they are contained somewhere in our myriad accounts, we just don’t know where.” If you don’t know where, you don’t know you have the money.

“The car keys are somewhere in the house. We just don’t where.” Really? If you don’t know where, you don’t know the keys are in the house.

“The missing cruise missile is somewhere in the arsenal, we just don’t where.” No. If you don’t know where, you don’t know the missile is in the arsenal.

“The COVID-19 virus is somewhere in the material we have—we just haven’t removed it from that material. But we know what it is and we’ve identified it and we know its structure.” NO YOU DON’T. YOU ASSUME THAT.

Science is not assumptions.

“But…but…there is a study which says a few researchers in a lab isolated the virus…”

They say they did. But the CDC is saying no virus is available. I guess that means trucks were not available to bring the virus from that lab to the CDC. The trucks were out of gas. It was raining. The bridge was washed out. The trucks were in the shop. Joe, the driver, couldn’t find his mask, and he didn’t want to leave home without it…

Science is not assumptions.

The pandemic is a fraud, down to the root of the poisonous tree.

This following "article" is meaningless nonsense questioning the purification of COVID for research purposes. Even if the methods of isolation were invalid, it doesn't question the existence of the virus.
Those are hundreds of links, replies from the institutions themselves, documenting that there is no sample of a so-called corona virus - anywhere, worldwide.

If the hospital says you got COVID, it is because it was tested and you had COVID.
Again, you have no documentation or proof of any sample of the so-called corona virus. Just more circuitous reasoning in full bloom, as you have been so trained to spew. The power of the lie is strong.

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