Chaos in Minnesota...ICE agents attacked, protester shot

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Woman tried to use her car against ICE. She was shot.
Tousi TV reporting. @Button

 

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Woman tried to use her car against ICE. She was shot.
Tousi TV reporting. @Button

A tragic choice on her part. Using a thousands of pound lethal weapon against armed agents.

Had she succeeded in driving over an agent, I doubt she would have lived.

If she would have stopped and turned the vehicle off, her family would feel blessed to have her alive.

God rest her in his peace.
 

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Here's what happened: She was sitting there in the road; armed, masked men approached her; she started to leave when they shot her for no apparent reason, other than they thought she was impeding them. The idea that she was "terrorist" is laughable; this is cold blooded murder, plain and simple. NO ICE agents were attacked; the woman was trying to get away.

That question that has to be asked: Is ICE there to arrest illegals or murder people for no reason? Seems to me they're more interested in attacking innocent people than doing their actual job. Case in point: the pastor in San Francisco they shot in the head with a pepper ball for simply standing there praying. I guess he was a terrorist too.
 
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Here's what happened: She was sitting there in the road; armed, masked men approached her; she started to leave when they shot her for no apparent reason, other than they thought she was impeding them. The idea that she was "terrorist" is laughable; this is cold blooded murder, plain and simple. NO ICE agents were attacked; the woman was trying to get away.

That question that has to be asked: Is ICE there to arrest illegals or murder people for no reason? Seems to me they're more interested in attacking innocent people than doing their actual job. Case in point: the pastor in San Francisco they shot in the head with a pepper ball for simply standing there praying. I guess he was a terrorist too.

Have you ever thought that she shouldn't be committing lawlessness?

She deliberately blocked the street with her car to impede ICE. When agents tried to get her out of the car, she didn't comply. She took off in her car with two agents very near the car. She could have continued to use that car as a weapon!!! That is why agents fired. They are trained to neutralize a threat or else they could end up dead.

If you don't want the possibility of being injured or worse, you shouldn't be confronting and resisting Federal officers. Especially not with a vehicle that weighs 3,000 pounds or more.
 

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Here's what happened: She was sitting there in the road; armed, masked men approached her; she started to leave when they shot her for no apparent reason, other than they thought she was impeding them.

Correction... instead of two agents near her car, there were actually three agents.

The third agent was in front of her car and had to shoot in defense. Video below shows a different angle where you can see the agent in front of her car.

I heard on our news the bullets entered from the front.


 
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Have you ever thought that she shouldn't be committing lawlessness?

She deliberately blocked the street with her car to impede ICE. When agents tried to get her out of the car, she didn't comply. She took off in her car with two agents very near the car. She could have continued to use that car as a weapon!!! That is why agents fired. They are trained to neutralize a threat or else they could end up dead.

If you don't want the possibility of being injured or worse, you shouldn't be confronting and resisting Federal officers. Especially not with a vehicle that weighs 3,000 pounds or more.
When the agents approached her she tried to leave. She didn't have to comply and get out of the car; ICE aren't law enforcement. Renee Good was a US citizen and was not wanted by ICE. Her wheels were facing away from the guy she was supposedly trying to run over. Trump said the guy had to be taken to the hospital but that's just Trump BS. After the crash, you can see him walking toward the vehicle without a scratch on him. If that agent was actually trained properly, he should've been able to tell when a vehicle is moving toward him and when it's moving away. He was just looking for someone to shoot.

Kristi Noem and Donald Trump were quick to come out with their propaganda. What they should've said is: This was a tragedy and there will be a thorough investigation to find the facts. But DHS and Donald Trump don't specialize in facts.
 

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An eye witness said that the Ice agent stepped out in front of the car and raised his gun, obviously with the intent to stop the car.
It strikes me that in that moment both the agent and the driver had moments to react, both would face the consequences of whatever action they would take - split second decisions.
Regardless of all the bickering about the incident, and the justification from both sides ( blame game )
The truth is that a women lost her life and the agent has taken that life, both will have a rippling effect.
Instead of arguing I prefer to pray with compassion for all those impacted, regardless of whatever political side of the fence they are on.
 
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When the agents approached her she tried to leave. She didn't have to comply and get out of the car; ICE aren't law enforcement. Renee Good was a US citizen and was not wanted by ICE. Her wheels were facing away from the guy she was supposedly trying to run over. Trump said the guy had to be taken to the hospital but that's just Trump BS. After the crash, you can see him walking toward the vehicle without a scratch on him. If that agent was actually trained properly, he should've been able to tell when a vehicle is moving toward him and when it's moving away. He was just looking for someone to shoot.

Kristi Noem and Donald Trump were quick to come out with their propaganda. What they should've said is: This was a tragedy and there will be a thorough investigation to find the facts. But DHS and Donald Trump don't specialize in facts.

Did you watch this video with the different angle? The agent was actually hit by the car...watch the video closely.

She was clearly driving towards the agent who was in front of her car (two agents were on the side of the car, the third agent was in front.)

She should have stopped her car and complied with the agents. And if she hadn't blocked the street to impede agents, this incident wouldn't have occurred.

 
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@Rita It's important to set the record straight about the Federal agent being struck by the car. Because there are many far left, Marxists and anarchists who will use this shooting to start riots across the country. They hate our country and want to destroy it...a spirit of disobedience and lawlessness operating in them.

That happened when George Floyd died. The rioters nearly burned the whole city of Minneapolis down.
 

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@Rita It's important to set the record straight about the Federal agent being struck by the car. Because there are many far left, Marxists and anarchists who will use this shooting to start riots across the country. They hate our country and want to destroy it...a spirit of disobedience and lawlessness operating in them.

That happened when George Floyd died. The rioters nearly burned the whole city of Minneapolis down.
Sorry but if the agent went in front of the car first then he was putting himself at risk, also if he shot the lady the car would have continued on its path and ran into him as a result.
As I said I will pray about the rippling effect, riots ect being part of that - it will be used by both sides.
Instead of arguing and endeavouring to score points with one another ( which is happening on many of the threads here at the moment ) we should be uniting in prayer
Ephesians 6 has just been on my mind this morning. We sometimes forget what it advises us to do - Pray and remember who the real enemy is and where it is taking place.
I just shared my thoughts earlier, what was on my heart about the incident.
 
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Sorry but if the agent went in front of the car first then he was putting himself at risk, also if he shot the lady the car would have continued on its path and ran into him as a result.

She drove into the Federal agent first...then he fired. It's on the video (the front angle). That's all I will say to you about it.
 
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She drove into the Federal agent first...then he fired. It's on the video (the front angle). That's all I will say to you about it.
You seem to think I am saying that it wasn’t self defence, actually it’s clear that she was moving forward but on the same video, that’s a bit clearer, it looks as if he fired before the car hit him. Hence why I said in a few seconds they both made choices, she chose to carry on and he chose to shoot.
 

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When the agents approached her she tried to leave. She didn't have to comply and get out of the car;

It’s clear as day. There was indeed an officer in front of the car, and one at her window.


Her foolish actions were reckless and dangerous, and result in her being needlessly shot when all she had to do was comply.
 

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@Rita It's important to set the record straight about the Federal agent being struck by the car. Because there are many far left, Marxists and anarchists who will use this shooting to start riots across the country. They hate our country and want to destroy it...a spirit of disobedience and lawlessness operating in them.

That happened when George Floyd died. The rioters nearly burned the whole city of Minneapolis down.
This incident was reportedly a mile from where the George Floyd incident occurred.

The woman driving the SUV was entirely at fault here.

I wonder what would be the response if she had succeeded in running over the agent she drove into,and had gotten away.
While the agent lay dead on the pavement because she ran him over.
 

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That question that has to be asked: Is ICE there to arrest illegals or murder people for no reason? Seems to me they're more interested in attacking innocent people than doing their actual job. Case in point: the pastor in San Francisco they shot in the head with a pepper ball for simply standing there praying. I guess he was a terrorist too.
Thank you! they were not asked to be there, and are causing more violence than was supposed to be there, and now two individuals have been shot in Portland? come on ..... somethings wrong
 

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Before we cast stones upon federal agents in Portland, I think it would make sense to know what happened.

It is troubling and deeply sad and disappointing to read anyone who is in Christ defending Sinners who are violating our laws in America.

That is not what we are suppose to do.
The anger here is surprising. The filthy darkness has found a way among the people of light.
 
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Sorry but if the agent went in front of the car first then he was putting himself at risk
The risk is taken by the criminal as the story unfolds.

For some reason many Christian’s, like you, are acting to subvert justice. She acted to subvert justice. The agent of justice stood in front of her car, which he has the authority and duty to do in execution of law enforcement operations. You’re sorry for the wrong group.

DOUBLE STANDARDS. This summer when rioters got in front of ICE vehicles, ICE was told they can’t run over the rioters. They have the burden. Now that the situation is reversed, the law breaker has no burden.
 

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The risk is taken by the criminal as the story unfolds.

For some reason many Christian’s, like you, are acting to subvert justice. She acted to subvert justice. The agent of justice stood in front of her car, which he has the authority and duty to do in execution of law enforcement operations. You’re sorry for the wrong group.

DOUBLE STANDARDS. This summer when rioters got in front of ICE vehicles, ICE was told they can’t run over the rioters. They have the burden. Now that the situation is reversed, the law breaker has no burden.
Yes. And there's the opinion that those Christians who support President Trump can no longer be called Christian.

Maybe what we're witnessing is all part of end times prophecies.
 
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