Our Father in Heaven says this to His Son:
"But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom." HEB. 1:8
THE Father refers to the Son as God - that's good enough for me.
Yes, it makes sense to me.
Why is it good enough to be happy with the same distorted and tainted scripture you keep parading around as some kind of trophy? You are not capable or no motivated I guess in knowing and understanding scripture from it original form in context and the history it was originally written in. and with this particular verse you stop far short of knowing anything about verse 18. You say wake up to me, then what shall I say to you to convince you've become suddenly numb and asleep to some of the reality in certain scripture.
Why have you not added in verse 19 into your parade? You must know that verse 18 was deliberately changed, as it does not fit verses 19.
Here is the same, all nearly the same words I have written to you about verses 18 previously, and I will keep sending this text in the hope you will get it and so wake you up.
And the Father in Heaven never said anything about an independent everlasting throne for his Son. That is a gross assumption and very deceptive.
Face it, you only see in scripture the 3-in-1 model when it comes to your god, and in any verse that even remotely supports it. It is a fools errand you know.
--------------------let me set you straight again...and again ,,,and again....
There is much information suggesting that Yeshua is NOT God with his throne in heaven.
Believers in the Trinity render
Hebrews 1:8 this way: “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.” Thus, they feel that Yeshua is shown to be the same as Almighty God. Why is this not correct? It's a lie
Look at some of the many counter claims.
But first, note the context. In many translations, either in the main text or in the margin,
Hebrews 1:9 reads, “God,
your God, anointed you.” This makes it clear that the one addressed in verse eight is not God,
but one who worships God and is anointed by him.
Secondly, it should be noted that
Hebrews 1:8, 9 is a quotation from
Psalm 45:6, 7, which originally was addressed to a human king of Israel. Surely the writer of this Psalm
did not think that this human king was Almighty God and
neither did the writer of Hebrews think that Yeshua was Almighty God. Commenting on this, scholar B. F. Westcott said: “It is scarcely possible that אלוהים [
‘Elo·
himʹ, “God”] in the original can be addressed to the king.
Thus, on the whole it seems best to adopt in the first clause the rendering:
God is Thy throne (or
Thy throne is God), that is ‘Thy kingdom is founded upon God.’”
Read that again and again...it is God's Kingdom and not his Son's. He was given authority for a passage of time and then he will return it to his Father, who is God.
There is good evidence that the proper translation of Heb. 1:8 (as well as Ps. 45:6) should be “your throne is God forever” or “God is your throne forever.”
If we look at some who are said to be respected trinitarian authorities, we also see a preference for the
“God is thy throne” rendering.
Oxford professor and
famed trinitarian Bible translator, Dr. James Moffatt, has been described as “probably the greatest biblical scholar of our day.” His Bible translation renders Heb. 1:8 as:
“God is thy throne for ever and ever.”
University of Cambridge professor and noted New Testament language scholar, Dr. C. F. D. Moule
reluctantly admits that Heb. 1:8 may conceivably be “construed so as to mean Thy throne is God” - p. 32, An Idiom Book of New Testament Greek, Cambridge University Press, 1990 printing.
An American Translation (Smith-Goodspeed), renders it: “God is your throne....”
And The Bible in Living English (Byington) reads: “God is your throne....”
Noted trinitarian NT scholar Dr. William Barclay, in his translation of the New Testament, has also rendered
Hebrews 1:8 as : “God is your throne for ever and ever.”
Famed trinitarian (Southern Baptist) New Testament Greek scholar Dr. A. T. Robertson acknowledges that either “Thy throne, O God” or “God is thy throne” may be proper renderings: “Either makes good sense.” - Word Pictures in the New Testament, Vol. v, p. 339.
The American Standard Version (ASV), the Revised Standard Version (RSV), the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV), and The New English Bible (NEB) have provided honest alternate readings to the traditional trinitarian rendering of the KJV at
Hebrews 1:8. These alternate readings (found in footnotes) agree with Dr. Moffatt’s, Dr. Barclay’s, Smith-Goodspeed’s, Byington’s, and the New World Translation’s renderings of this scripture (“God is your throne”).
Even Young’s Concise Bible Commentary (written by the noted trinitarian author of Young’s Analytical Concordance to the Bible) admits: “[Heb. 1:8] may be justly rendered ‘God is thy throne ....’”
Quoted From Ps. 45
In addition to these admissions by trinitarian translators concerning Heb. 1:8 itself, we need to look back at the Old Testament Hebrew scripture (Ps. 45:6) that Paul was quoting when he wrote Heb. 1:8.
The RSV renders it as “Your Divine throne” and a footnote provides these alternate
readings: “Or your throne is a throne of God, or Thy throne, O God.’”
The NEB says: “Your throne is like God’s throne.”
The Holy Scriptures (JPS version) says: “Thy throne given of God.”
The Bible in Living English (Byington) says: “God is your throne.”
The Message has: "Your throne is God's throne, ever and always.”
The Good News Bible (GNB), Bible, renders it: “The kingdom that God has given you will last
forever and ever.” - ABS, 1976.
The Good News Translation (GNT): “The kingdom that God has given you will last forever and
ever.” – ABS, 1992.
The REB has: “God has enthroned you for all eternity.”
The NJB gives us: “your throne is from God.”
We also see the following statement by respected trinitarian scholars in a footnote for this passage:
“45:6 O God. Possibly the king’s throne is called God’s throne because he is God’s appointed regent. But it is also possible that the king himself is addressed as ‘god.’” - Ps. 45:6 in the NIV Study Bible. [Also see footnote in the NAB, St. Joseph ed.]
In addition to the above renderings by many respected translators (most of whom are trinitarian), we have the statement by one of the greatest scholars of Biblical Hebrew of all time, H. F. W. Gesenius. In his famous and highly respected Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament Gesenius renders Ps. 45:6, “thy throne shall be a divine throne.”
Just the admission by so many trinitarian translators (above) that Heb. 1:8 may be honestly translated as it is even in the NWT, makes any insistence by other trinitarians
that this scripture is acceptable evidence for a trinity doctrine completely invalid!
Does your verse 18 version and its ridiculous meaning still make sense to you? It shouldn't although I suspect you are a die-hard fan of advertising 'anything with do' to prop up your contrived indescribable 3-in-1 theatrical play.
