Few are saved.

[Earburner]

I'm just hoping that Jesus lets me accompany him into Hell to help torture the bad people.

Why would you think Jesus would do that??

Nothing of the Eternal God lives in the unsaved, so that the unsaved should remain forever alive forever in hell, aka the pit the grave.

Unless of course, you believe in the forever burning Hell of Church- ianity, where it is believed by them that God must also live in a forever burning "Hell" with them, just to keep the unsaved alive and burning.

 

[RepentingChristian]

Jesus spoke about hell being real and people suffering there for eternity

Yea I'm down with it! I just want to help increase their suffering and make Jesus proud! You in?

 

[Earburner]

Meh, that's just demonic thinking from the devils who are mocking the Truth Jesus spoke about hell being real and people suffering there for eternity

Those allowing this sort of thoughts in to their thinking are receiving demonic "revelations" aka lies of the devil.

Because you believe what you said in your first paragraph, aren't you half way there yourself with @RepentingChristian ?
Or maybe he is just tossing around a hint of sarcasm.
Please see my post #261

 

[RepentingChristian]

Because you believe what you said in your first paragraph, aren't you half way there yourself with @RepentingChristian ?
Or maybe he is just tossing around a hint of sarcasm.
Please see my post #261

 

[RepentingChristian]

Jesus will save EVERYBODY, even Satan. Nobody will reject Jesus forever. The theology that Jesus runs a forever torture chamber that makes Auschwitz look like a Girl Scout day camp is ridiculously funny. Sadly, many Christians believe it.

 

[Earburner]

Jesus will save EVERYBODY, even Satan. Nobody will reject Jesus forever. The theology that Jesus runs a forever torture chamber that makes Auschwitz look like a Girl Scout day camp is ridiculously funny. Sadly, many Christians believe it.

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I did percieve that you were being sarcastic.
But it is true that many Christians believe Church- ianity's "never ending story" of billions of people being eternally alive, burning in a fiery "Hell" forever and ever.

 

[Beebster]

No, if one is born again of the Spirit, he or she is not subject to the second death, which is what those who are not elect are resurrected to (John 5:29).

What do you suppose follows being born again? Do you think people become instantly spiritual?

Now, Revelation 20 is what we're really talking about there, and that... Well, it shouldn't... but Revelation 20 causes some folks a lot of problems... <chuckles>

It sure does.

Well, yes, each of us come to share in it, each at his/her own time... when, having been dead in his or her sin, he or she is born again of the Spirit ~ made alive together with Christ ~ and raised us up with Him and seated with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 2).

Right, you apparently believe the resurrection is past and that we are in the millennial age?

This is our sharing in the first resurrection, as it is put by John in Revelation 20. Collectively, then, yes, I'm fine with your saying "the Elect are the first resurrection," but again, this is how we share in the first resurrection, individually, and are blessed because we do... this is how John puts it in verses 4-6.

Well, I'll be honest, you really got me confused.

There is only one Righteous Judge, and one Savior. Christ Jesus is He. <smile>

Yes that's true. It is Christ, whose body we are.

1Co 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular

Jhn 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

Jhn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

The final judgment is executed/issued by Christ, and those on Jesus's left go away into judgment for eternity.

Judgement does not last for eternity. It last for the eon, the age afterwhich is resurrection.

No, His judgment is the fire in which they are consumed... they are totally immersed in His judgment... for eternity. <shudder>

No, we are all judged by fire. The elect now, the rest of his church along with the the sea of humanity will be later.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

There is no relief, and no hope of redemption or escape. This is the second death. <shudder>

Sorry no. Second death is the death of our carnal minds. It is what brings us to having a spiritual mind which is the mind of Christ, who is the judge.

1Co 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

We will all be judged according to what we have done... "He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.

True.

There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek" (Romans 2:6-12)... and again, Jesus gives us a picture of this final Judgment in
Matthew 25-31-46. We are all there.

Well if you take the parable literally then i could see your point..
But it is, in fact, a parable.
The kingdom of of God is in you.

Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

You are that temple and his throne is in you ..

1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Where do you suppose God's throne is?

What do you suppose that throne is?

Do you think the throne Christ sits on is a literal throne?

Christ's Christ, his elect are judged now in this age.

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

We can incur judgments, yes, but these are for our discipline now; God disciplines those He loves (Hebrews ) But the final Judgment is coming. The elect will be resurrected to eternal life, but we will be judged, along with everybody else, as I said.

Christ is the judge and his elect are him, his body. They too will judge as ONE.

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. [The lake of fire/second death]

Jer 5:14 Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them [in the lake of fire]

1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

But we will have an Advocate, in Whose righteousness we will stand, as I said. We will stand in the congregation of the righteous (Psalm 1), on Jesus's right.

Yes but not literally, the Elect are on his right, they have the same mind and actions and rewards.

Peace.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Yea I'm down with it! I just want to help increase their suffering and make Jesus proud! You in?

You're on your own sport. Enjoy your eternity in hell.

I'll be kickin it with The Father in His Kingdom with all those that don't claim Jesus is a liar.

Because you believe what you said in your first paragraph, aren't you half way there yourself with @RepentingChristian ?
Or maybe he is just tossing around a hint of sarcasm.

I'm with the Lord not in opposition to Him as those who claim He lied about hell

Jesus will save EVERYBODY, even Satan.

That's one of the lies satan and his demons are spreading around.

Too bad they tricked you in to accepting this doctrine of demons

 

[amigo de christo]

As to how "the wisdom of men" in church- ianity have interpreted the Bible, the scriptures do not say anything about Jerusalem (which is now) as having any value towards God, or for God at all!!

Gal. 4
[21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
[22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
[23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
[24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
[25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
[26] But Jerusalem which is ABOVE is free, which is the mother of us all [who are of faith in Christ].

actually it does . here is what it says about earthen jerusalem
SHE BE IN bondage with her children . as you yourself left us to read .
So here is the plain solid truth .
THERE is not one , not not one earthern nation that is NOT in bondage with her children and have
actually been led only into g reater and greater and greater rebellion against GOD , HIS CHRIST .
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO HOPE in man , in govts
not in the left , not in the right and not in t rump all mighty, as some think he is .
THEY DUPING US ALL .
THERE IS NO HOPE in THE RCC , and sadly now a ov erwhelming sheer uncountable number
of even leaders in the prostestant realm .
HERE IS WHO and WHERE the ONLY HOPE IS . IN GOD , IN HIS CHRIST and get them rumps into BIBLES fast .
cause that book I KNOW GOD INSPIRED . We in deadly deadly dire trouble . A whore of all whores
a harlot of all harlots has infiltrated every known realm . from education , to politics , to liberal and conservative churches
to messiance jew synaogues . THAT HO has INFILTRATED . WE gots to get bibled up and p rayered up fast .
cause many are going under false love that is and has transformed the image of GOD
into the one who first rebelled against GOD and fell from heaven . THE DEVIL aint taking a nap folks
HE has infilt rated , with his whore every known realm .

 

[amigo de christo]

You're on your own sport. Enjoy your eternity in hell.

I'll be kickin it with The Father in His Kingdom with all those that don't claim Jesus is a liar.





I'm with the Lord not in opposition to Him as those who claim He lied about hell




That's one of the lies satan and his demons are spreading around.

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that dude is lost in false love my friend . satan has them duped . HE knows his time is short .
HE knows the lake of fire is real and he gonna take everyone he can down with him .
My advice . I DONT WANT YOU TO HEED ONE SINGLE WORD out of that mans mouth . HEAR THAT
and may all hear that . That fellow is and has b ought THE LIE .

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus will save EVERYBODY, even Satan. Nobody will reject Jesus forever. The theology that Jesus runs a forever torture chamber that makes Auschwitz look like a Girl Scout day camp is ridiculously funny. Sadly, many Christians believe it.

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YOU , your false love , your cliams , CALLS GOD a liar .
you will pay a price on HIS day that no man would ever desire to have had to face .
UNLESS you repent , YOU get in that bible and start BELEIVING what is written .
Yall think yalls love is really gonna save and help this people . Yalls version of what YOU think is GOD and HIS Love
is only making broader the path to destruction . Not a word one will i heed from you .
You should be ashamed of yourself calling GOD a liar . shame . hold that that head down in shame
and repent before its too late e.

 

[Triumph1300]

Jesus will save EVERYBODY, even Satan.

Your false doctrine is leading people right into the pit of hell.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Your false doctrine is leading people right into the pit of hell.

Yeah, it's as bad as being a liberal supporting murdering babies in the womb and teaching children to be perverts for sure.

 

[amigo de christo]

Your false doctrine is leading people right into the pit of hell.

and now for the simple reminder my friend . WHY , why did the apostels
go about with such urgency to preach JESUS . They went about all over areas to preach JESUS .
yet todays , lets omit damanation and lake of fire generation
rather sits on its rump
and at most preaches , HEY ITS ALL GONNA be fine in the end .
Why .
CAUSE YOUR RIGHT my friend . And the devil is a liar .
He gonna make it seem like all gonna be okay
WHEN IT DARN SURE AINT GONNA BE OKAY .
such a urgency with the true apostels
such a sit back and judge not and relax , WITH THIS G ENERATION .
HECK relax man , even satan gonna be okay , SO THEY SAY .
Ever get the feeling many are being decieved and love to have it so .
YOUR right my friend . But beleive me you will be accused of having no love
of accusing falsely .
As for the sheep , WE WILL HEED JESUS . And i do beleive He sure warned of such a place
prepared for the devil and his angels and UNBELIEVERS
and all who made and loved a lie .
This generatoin had rather cling to TRUMP or HARRIS and hope in world peace
And sing a lullaby that all will be well . THAN TO PREACH JESUS and THE DIRE NECESSITY to have to BELIEVE ON HIM .

 

[amigo de christo]

Your false doctrine is leading people right into the pit of hell.

they had rather hope in lies and in men . But let it not be said i did not say
that JESUS IS the savoir of the world .
But let it not be said that , IN ORDER TO BE SAVED ONE MUST BELEIVE . i mean JESUS MADE THAT REAL clear
as did paul and others .
Seems to me many had rather twist things than to preach truth .
Seems to me that many hope in men , NOT GOD .
BUT OH MY , throw a cape on T RUMP and let him save us all . what a delusion .
OH throw a cape on the ecumenical pope led lies , THEY will save us , what a delsuion
BUT if one even dares to remind of the dire need to have to BELEIVE ON JESUS , its throw a rock at that hater .
IF one even speaks the truth about the dangers of rejecting JESUS , throw a rock at that one .
IF one even warns against certain sins , THROW a rock at that one .
IF ONE EVEN BRINGS THE WORDS of GOD in that bible , ITS THROW A ROCK at that one .
Lets run to TRUMP , or a pope , or a liberal . They aint gonna make it my friend.
BUT DO NOT GIVE UP . Warn and remind all . who so ever hears amen , who so ever forbears , ITS ON THEM .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, it's as bad as being a liberal supporting murdering babies in the womb and teaching children to be perverts for sure.

its a madhouse .
You got folks supporting evil all over the place .
And folks trusting in men all over the place .
Big boy . You said something the other day about satans right hand harlot and her ecumeincal cup
and how its evil . MAN you said that well my friend .
So do beware paul white and the nar realm who clambors to trump and vance
WHO ALSO DO the same ecumeincal agenda .
WE ALL BEING DUPED friend . well those whose hopes were in men are . BUT not the sheep .
cause the sheep have absolutely zero hope in men and all HOPE IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST .
SO i hope that do encourage you my friend .

 

[Triumph1300]

Yeah, it's as bad as being a liberal supporting murdering babies in the womb and teaching children to be perverts for sure.

Yes there are lots of those around.
More in the US than in Canada.
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Thank God.

 

[RepentingChristian]

YOU , your false love , your cliams , CALLS GOD a liar .

YOU call God a "liar". ALL will be in God's Kingdom.

1 Corinthians 15:22 esv
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

 

[RepentingChristian]

you will pay a price on HIS day

It can't be any worse than being forced to read more of your delusional, insane, ramblings.

 

[RepentingChristian]

Jesus came to Earth to unite ALL THINGS to himself. For a variety of reasons, including scriptures, I believe that Jesus SUCCEEDS in UNITING ALL THINGS TO HIMSELF! Many Christians, like the MORONS that defile this community, believe that Jesus is a BLITHERING IDIOT who not only FAILS to unite all things to himself, but then turns around and TORTURES FOREVER those that he failed to persuade. Some theology, right? Lol.

Ephesians 1:7-10
7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9 making known[c] to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.