Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[RepentingChristian]

He was speaking of the generation that would be present once the signs of his coming began to happen.

Thanks.

What is the "holy place"?

Matthew 24:15
So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),

 

[ScottA]

Then you are in opposition to God.

Amos 9:14-15
"I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant them on their land, AND THEY SHALL NEVER AGAIN BE UPROOTED out of the land that I have given them,” says the Lord your God.

You don't understand.

"It is finished."

 

[HealthyShape]

Hey Genius, if Jews are in control of everything, how is it that they're the most persecuted segment of humanity in all of world history?

They are not. Christians or for example native Americans or enslaved Africans lead the stats of the most persecuted groups in history.

 

[ScottA]

The "israeli bloodline"? ??????????????

I think what you are trying to explain is that "of the seed of Abraham"... of "Isaac"......is what you mean by "Israel" or "blood line".

So, in that case, you mean all the Born again Jews, but not the Nation State, itself.

Now, the issue with that theology, is that God is going to protect not just the "seed of Abraham" but the entire Nation and State of Israel.
"the JEWS".
He'd doing it right now in front of your own eyes... regarding Israel and the JEWS and not just the Messianic "Abrahamic bloodline" .., as God is currently protecting the State of Israel from the entire world of anti-semites who are on its border, and not just found only there.
Try France, and England and Australia.......and other anti-semetic leaning countries.......see them for the update.

Why do you think the USA is "all in" and is currently about to bomb Iran?
Trump/Netanyhu... are just a "for such a time as this"... Chess Piece regarding the fullfillment of God's endtime plan.
If that was not the case then Iran and its demonic proxies would have destroyed the STATE of Israel and all the JEWS, this last 2 yrs and they certainly tried.

A.) It cant be done, as God is not finished with the JEW yet. according to BIBLE Prophecy.......as that happens in the /TRIB and Grt Trib that is not yet begun.

By the word of Christ "It is finished" for the house of Israel.

What remains of the bloodline is much like our taking of communion--"Do this in remembrance of Me." And it is also much like we keep the Sabbath and keep it Holy today, which we do "within"--not one of seven days, but everyday--by keeping Christ, and Him holy.

As for the modern state of Israel, there is the state, which was corrupt from the start. And then there is the heritage and bloodline who have come after to honor their own heritage under the same flag unaware of the corruption. But I would venture to say, they know more of it now than they did at first.

 

[Debp]

Although I am a catholic by faith , but I do not agree with my church teaching in that matter. I am a Christian and I see that Israel is a fulfillment of at the prophecy in the old testament. I see that we as christian have an obligation to support Zionism by faith for a nation for the Jewish People with love in The Holy Lands. though I am open to discuss that and change my opinion if that is against the faith. Jesus is love at the end. No violence. What do you think Sister @Debp ?

I agree in supporting the nation of Israel. The Lord gave them that land and promised to bring them back to it...which He did.

Also there are 53 Muslim countries surrounding Israel...why can't people just agree that the Jews can have their one little country too.

Thank you, I wish one day we have a good humble pope who truly follow the christian faith and reject political agendas and elites stuff and more. Since 8th century , the catholic church are in decline , away from the truth. Bishops become just a political position for the elite and the aristocratic family like Medici Family . Even though , I can not leave my faith; I love my faith. God promised that he will never leave his Church and his people. What do you think ?

I heard the Pope had a Muslim prayer room built in The Vatican? Is that true? If so, I don't think that's a good idea. Because it's giving approval to Islam which denies our Biblical Jesus. Muslims even reject Christ dying for our sins.

Just keep focusing on Jesus, not the rituals of the Catholic Church. It would be nice if you could find a Bible teaching church but I understand sometimes they might not be available.

 

[quietthinker]

You mean past genocide ON Israel.

No, I don't mean that. I'm thinking of Jericho and the case with the Amalekites.

Yes, the nations around were wicked by the accounts given us....as were the destruction of the Antediluvians which achieved nothing. .....however, from another angle, let us consider the sons of Jacob from which the tribes were named. They were nothing short of scoundrels; selling their brother and deriving their Father for years.....and no, they didn't come clean of their own account; it wasn't until they got caught with their pants down.

Get the perspective right and not fabricate one that supports a skewed narrative.

 

[quietthinker]

No question maybe....just a lie from the pit of hell. Israel has never committed genocide.

hmmmmm!

 

[shepherdsword]

No, I don't mean that. I'm thinking of Jericho and the case with the Amalekites.

Yes, the nations around were wicked by the accounts given us....as were the destruction of the Antediluvians which achieved nothing. .....however, from another angle, let us consider the sons of Jacob from which the tribes were named. They were nothing short of scoundrels; selling their brother and deriving their Father for years.....and no, they didn't come clean of their own account; it wasn't until they got caught with their pants down.

Get the perspective right and not fabricate one that supports a skewed narrative.

Wow, That's probably similar to the very words Satan is using as he accuses them before God. Let's get the Lord's perspective to destroy your skewed narrative:

Nu 24:5-9
How goodly are thy tents, O Jacob, and thy tabernacles, O Israel! As the valleys are they spread forth, as gardens by the river's side, as the trees of lign aloes which the Lord hath planted, and as cedar trees beside the waters. He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted. God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows. He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Should we support the state of Israel or not as Christians? Thank you

Israel is Born again Christians in fact !
Israel is the servants of God !
In the Bible Jacob was the first Israel, for good reason in fact ! It's the Key to what Israel truly is in fact !
The Second to be called Israel was Nathanial, by Jesus and for verey good reason in fact !

Now who does modern day Christian Churches hide away form preaching on such facts as Key must understand knowledge for one to become born again !
Well it's because Churches are buisnesses first and foremost and they sure as Hell do not want people to become truly Saved in fact, because such people would be Israel !
That's why it's said, you must come out from Them !

Every fool believes the crap of that Israel is founded on a people ?
Fact is that Israel is founded on God ! and then a people serves God first and foremost in their life ! that's the Key !

The History of the Tribes of Israel in fact points out all of their failings ! and why was that ? because when they clearly turned their back on God they always failed in fact !
Now why did a People of God rise above all in History, only because they were worthy of God in fact !

The Land that ? who was it that came up with the name ? The State Israel ? Now who would swallow that line back in the day ? Ignorance or fools ? Is it Blasphmy ? or the work of the Devil, one may ask !
Not to mention have a flag with a clearly abomination on it ! Now what worthy Christion would look up to such a Star ? for in Acts Stephen pointed out that this was a Mans works and nothing to do with God at all in fact !
So any Christian who idolises such a Star is going to Hell.

Why not the Manorah on the Flag ? That is totaly fitting to God for sure ! but we Christians should own the Manorah for the worthy Jews were the first Christians in fact ! and the rest of the Jews were lead astray by their gods that they in fact idolised as we see in Acts Stephen pointed out the whole deal to the Godless fools, who clearly showed their true colours on dealing with him !

Fact is that we all were born to Sin regardless who anyone is or was ? But one must truly be born again ! That's a clear fact !

Their is no Jew or Greek under the roof of one who is truly born again Christian in fact, for all are above such nonsense because They have been lifted up ! above such nonsense in fact. they are not boasting of carnal BS, they Serve Christ Jesus first and foremost in their lives in fact.
Race issues are carnal nonsense and who you think you are in that regard, is only that one idolises the ego. for they serve an ego gods ?
All fine in regards one having a pride in such with eyes wide open ? but this is not, The Sin of Pride !

Nowadays the Sin of Pride is peddled openly Gay Pride ! Ho boy, well that is clearly the wagers of Death ! fact is that their is clearly no Pride in that of serving Sin ! nor Abortion on demand ! such is clearly the wagers of Sin !

Not to mention where Grace abounds, Their is Christ Jesus !
And were Sin abounds Their is Death ! or a culture of death one may clearly point out in fact, for it is so !
So should one boast of Sin ? Todays newage is guilty ! and we are all on the path, in that that will pay ! We are paying for such now ! but such will only get worse ! The Hellfire is to come ! only due to Godless morons.

God does not bring it on, for it's clearly a carnal Curse ! you will reap what you sow !

 

[DavidTaylor]

God has decreed that Jews CANNOT yet believe in and follow Jesus AT THIS TIME. Eventually he will permit them to do so and then THEY WILL follow Jesus.

Romans 11:25
25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Peter at Pentecost, explained when the Jews can believe and how their partial hardening can be removed.

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and they said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation." Acts 2:36

 

[Button]

Whether it's about Hell or Israel the fundamentalists here will NEVER budge from their own theology that they created in their own heads. All the Bible scriptures in the world won't change their views because their monolithic egos blind them.

God has decreed that Jews CANNOT yet believe in and follow Jesus AT THIS TIME. Eventually he will permit them to do so and then THEY WILL follow Jesus.

Romans 11:25
25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

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Sure.
That's why all of the Apostles of Jesus were Protestant.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

"Not all Israel is Israel"...Jews who say they are Jews...but lie and are the synagogue of Satan"

This is ultimately true for any human being alive on earth... if they have no been born again and are abiding IN Christ then they are of the devil.

Only Jews (descendants of Abraham according to the flesh) that have born again and are actively walking with the Lord are of the Lord. All the rest are of the devil having rejected the Lord just like all other humans beings that have rejected the Lord or have backsliden are of the devil as they are living in agreement with the devil and in opposition to the Lord.

Were the dead in Christ resurrected in the 1st century? Were they given immortal bodies in the twinkling of an eye? Did he return the same way he left in Acts 1? Did every eye see him as Rev 1 states? Because that's what happens at the second coming.

Nope. Jesus has not yet returned to earth.

No question maybe....just a lie from the pit of hell. Israel has never committed genocide.

No, they have not.

But when Israel defends itself in war the liberals (devil people) always claim in the news media that Israel is committing genocide

 

[HealthyShape]

But when Israel defends itself in war the liberals (devil people) always claim in the news media that Israel is committing genocide

Fact check:

1. Not when they defend themselves, but when they intentionally cause mass civilian casualties and intentionally enlarge the suffering of the civilians.

2. Not "the liberals", but the UN, the Genocide Watch, International Association of Genocide Scholars, Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, International Criminal Court, International Court of Justice and many other similar organizations. Also countries like Ireland, South Africa, Belgium, Bolivia, Ecuador, Spain...

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Not when they defend themselves, but when they intentionally cause mass civilian casualties

Yep, that's what all the baby killin liberal perverts keep falsely claiming.

Not "the liberals", but the UN, the Genocide Watch, International Association of Genocide Scholars, Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, International Criminal Court, International Court of Justice and many other similar organizations. Also countries like Ireland, South Africa, Belgium, Spain...

All servants of satan who seek to wipe all Jews off the face of the earth which they desire at the behest of their daddy the devil.

The truth is if the moslems would simply leave Israel alone there would be peace.

But the devil's children have always hated the Jews so they just can't stop attacking them.

God will never allow Israel to be destroyed and in fact God had wiped entire nations off the face of the earth in defense of Israel so stay tuned.... more death among the devil's children is on the way due to their continued attacking Israel

 

[Button]

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[Button]

Anti-Zionism is NOT anti-semitism.

Yes,it is.

Source: ADL

Understanding Antisemitism and Anti-Zionism

Definitions of antisemitism, anti-Zionism and anti-Israel bias.

www.adl.org

"....Anti-Zionism is antisemitic, in intent or effect, and can take on several different forms, including:...."

 

[quietthinker]

Wow, That's probably similar to the very words Satan is using as he accuses them before God. Let's get the Lord's perspective to destroy your skewed narrative:

Nu 24:5-9
How goodly are thy tents, O Jacob, and thy tabernacles, O Israel! As the valleys are they spread forth, as gardens by the river's side, as the trees of lign aloes which the Lord hath planted, and as cedar trees beside the waters. He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted. God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows. He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee.

You either settle for the words of Moses or the witness of Jesus re his Father. You can't do both if you want consistency on the character of God.
The Pharisees insisted on Moses and were quiet happy to condemn and stone those with infractions.
Jesus on the other hand said, 'you have heard said but I say unto you' for multiple applications. The sermon on the mount is his seminal teaching which underpinned all his teaching, ie, love your enemies.

1 Corinthians 13 also tells us that love holds no record of wrongs and does not seek its own way. This throws those resorting to Moses for justifying violence into disarray. Little wonder the religious of Jesus day were unwilling to hear him. It threatened their love and insistence of violence.

 

[Nancy]

Isn't God a "Christian Nationalist"? After all, Heaven has gates and walls and only Christians may enter.

His Kingdom is NOT of this world!

 

[WalterandDebbie]

As a Christian we must recognize that the modern state of Israel is anti-Christ. Most of the jews there despise Christians. However, it is a stable democratic state in the midst of extreme Islamic fundamental nations. It is in the best interest of the USA, as well as Europe, to provide support for such a crucial ally.

We are in agreement with the above statement.

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[shepherdsword]

You either settle for the words of Moses or the witness of Jesus re his Father. You can't do both if you want consistency on the character of God.
The Pharisees insisted on Moses and were quiet happy to condemn and stone those with infractions.
Jesus on the other hand said, 'you have heard said but I say unto you' for multiple applications. The sermon on the mount is his seminal teaching which underpinned all his teaching, ie, love your enemies.

1 Corinthians 13 also tells us that love holds no record of wrongs and does not seek its own way. This throws those resorting to Moses for justifying violence into disarray. Little wonder the religious of Jesus day were unwilling to hear him. It threatened their love and insistence of violence.

Those aren't the words of Moses. They are a prophecy from the living God. You either agree with it or rebel against it.