Saved, what is it & why the confusion as to how ?

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amigo de christo

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Hi taken, Belief starts somewhere, the words of Jesus ( the seed) . the rest is according to one of his parables below I added more texts for context.

Matthew 13:1-23​

13 The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.

2 And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;

4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:

6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:

8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.

9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
What we beleive IS WHO we beleive . thus Whose words we beleived IS WHO WE B ELEIVED .
so now a word .
EITHER ITS WORDS OF MEN gone wrong , OR ITS THE WORD and WORDS of GOD and oF CHRIST .
but BELEIVE THIS , IT CANNOT BE BOTH .
 
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amigo de christo

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JESUS I KNOW SPOKE TRUTH
its every man , woman and child , donkey or angel or whatever speaks
THAT MUST BE TESETED against HIS WORDS . And when or if Their words contradict HIS
Just know and understand , THEY BE THE LIAR . CAUSE GOD IS TRUE , HIS WORD IS TRUE , HIS WORDS are TRUE .
Hopefully that helps to remind us all .
 
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Never accept anything that falls short of the pure T ruth . in other words
I dont care if its eighty , maybe ninety , maybe ninety five percent right . NO MAM
its either THE TRUTH or its not . and leaven always starts real tiny too .
Except Amigo....that no church has everything 100% right.
We'd have to learn church history and live like the early Christians.
Seems like moden-day man is unable to do this.
Even most Christians.
 
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amigo de christo

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Except Amigo....that no church has everything 100% right.
We'd have to learn church history and live like the early Christians.
Seems like moden-day man is unable to do this.
Even most Christians.
Its easy to have everything one hundred percent right .
just follow the pattern Christ and later the apostels left for us .
OF course we will have to correct errors
B ut have you e ver heard of a house church . OH this can e asily be done .
Look what we cant do is sit under leaders who dont even know how to lead . Either through fear
or total depravity . one or another , ITS TIME for the grave men of GOD to arise
and do something . and house churches seems LIKE a real good start .
EVEN bible reads together over the phone is a start , with prayers and etc .
But sit under an ecumenical whore , NEVER , or prepare to fall .
 
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Except Amigo....that no church has everything 100% right.
We'd have to learn church history and live like the early Christians.
Seems like moden-day man is unable to do this.
Even most Christians.
marvel not , you dont even have to learn church history .
just learn well the words of Christ and later the apostels .
THINGS will come t ogether . Its no mystery and its not difficult .
THIS can be easily done .
ONE GOD , ONE CHRIST , ONE BIBLE . real easy . HE IS WITH THE SHEEP .
By grace i have been reading that bible every day and with others too
for almost twenty years daily . beleive me , IT WILL COME together
and it wont take twenty years either . Though always we are learning something .
REGULATORS
May i say CONTENDERS
FOR THE TRUE FAITH MOUNT UP . but to any who continues to sit in any church
or place connected to ecumeinc alism . YOUR GOING DOWN . and i love the people
SO i must warn them . GET OUT now . its gonna only get worse and faster than you think .
 
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