Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

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So, you hold this as a prohibition against capital punishment, shedding man's blood, when God commanded the death penalty in Numbers 15?

You are the one twisting Scripture in an attempt to suit you. You are confusing the burden we have to do justice, which includes most importantly war, with murder.

Agree.

God pronounces Death as Justice served.

Men position Judges to pronounce Death as Justice to be served.

Glory to God,
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That can only be achieved by the coming of God’s Kingdom. It’s what Jesus taught us to pray for, but Christendom’s church members somehow think that peace can be achieved by war with weapons of mass destruction....yet in all of man’s history, when has lasting peace ever been achieved that way?

Genuine peace is not an absence of war...it’s a condition of the heart, vowing not to participate in the political arguments or bloodshed, not even tacitly. That’s what being “no part of the world” means. (John 18:36) We are to take a neutral position because this is satan’s world and we are to be no part of its governance or bloodshed. (Luke 4:5-7; Isa 1:15) We can let it do what God permits it to do. He doesn’t need us to go and bomb the daylights out of other countries, killing innocent women and children.

How do we praise the “Prince of Peace” by supporting and sanctioning wars in which God never took sides?

Man’s wars are usually over greed for resources, national pride, and the ability to make great profits in selling weapons. When a nation defends its own boarders, that is one thing, but when the nations fight wars in other people’s countries, that is something else entirely....but regardless.....it’s none of our business as Christ’s disciples. We remain innocent bystanders.

By the time Jesus presented himself as Messiah, the Jews as a nation had been subjugated for some time, and they had no military force. For a Jew to join the military in the first century was an act of betrayal....fighting for their enemies. The tax collectors were viewed the same way....despised as traitors.

Jesus did not at any time suggest military action by his disciples......he had a whole other “army” at his disposal. (Matt 26:52-53) We can let them do what they are commissioned to do......it’s not our job.
From their understanding of the Bible, if this were an exam, it would have to be considered a failure.
And they are the angels of Satan, the messengers of Satan, "as" the light of angels.
 
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Disagree.

God DOES LOVE All of His Creations…

God ALSO HATES many of those He LOVES…

Problem is… you reveal you do not know the meanings of LOVE and HATE, thus fail to understand Both (love and hate) can Apply to one same person.

Glory to God,
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And the simple solution is
TIME to remind all of the absolute dire need to flee them false religoins
and beleive on JESUS the Christ .
God never desired the death and destruction but rather repentance and faith in JESUS CHRIST .
But what i say to you and i say to all
THOSE who preach a love that entials in any shape , in any way , in any fashion
Oh it does not matter what religoin one followed so long as they hugged and showed love
THEY gonna reap a serious wrath upon themselves on HIS DAY .
The early apostels . LETS SEE HOW they evangelized . THEN let us see IF they stuck around
and tried to find common ground with the false religoins .
NOPE . THEY PREACHED JESUS and if one heard and believ ed they were added into the fold .
Those who rejected , had dust shook off against them as a testimony . Not the idea of
OH WELL , LETS JUST FIND COMMON GROUND FOR WORLD peace .
I am telling us all WE are being seduced and decieved b y a very dark and sinistir agenda .
TIME for the sounding out and reminders of the aboslute dire need to repent and believe ON JESUS the CHRIST .
because many no longer either remember or realize
OH THERE IS ANOTHER that cometh in his own name
THAT ONE COMETH IN under the guise of peace and by PEACE shall destroy many . That is exactly
what spirit this interfaith is of and WHO its merging teh false religoins and a lot of christendom to be as one man
RIGHT UNDER IT in short time .
 

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Disagree.

God DOES LOVE All of His Creations…

God ALSO HATES many of those He LOVES…

Problem is… you reveal you do not know the meanings of LOVE and HATE, thus fail to understand Both (love and hate) can Apply to one same person.

Glory to God,
Taken
You're entitled to your private unbiblical opinion, but I only believe what Gods Word reveals about the matter. Your opinion here makes no sense at all, how on earth did you arrive at such a ludicrous conclusion that "God also hates many of those He loves". That has to be the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life.

Now let me help you with that, it's quite simple if you care to use your God given intellect. Everyone (except for you) knows that hate is the opposite of love and love is the opposite of hate.

What your suggesting here, is that God has multi personality disorder, and that's absolutely blasphemous.

God hates most people, so much that He will cast them into the lake of fire to be tormented for all eternity, and you call that love!!!! how pathetic!!!
 

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For the 4th time I didn't say what you claimed.
You are exposing yourself as a liar
Satan is the father of lies
I quoted your own words and you're still denying it, you have most certainly come under strong Demonic delusion. So much so that you don't even have the capacity to admit the 100% in your face proof I gave you.

You're certainly beyond help, from a human perspective, but God may yet open your eyes and quicken you to life from your sate of being "dead in sin".

Now I know I'm talking to a dead man, who can't respond because he is dead and dead men can do nothing but stink.
 

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This you say after I cited 2 Bible verses proving your hypocrisy!

Do you believe these posts reflect the Spirit of Christ? Can you imagine Jesus talking this way?
No, I gave you to verses which destroy your foolish interpretation of the verses you abused to support your Satanic lies. You ignored them because they expose you as pure evil.

I don't buy your evil scheme, which you learned from your Father, He taught you to ignore the truth and attack the person speaking the truth with lies and hypocrisy. :boxx
 

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I quoted your own words and you're still denying it, you have most certainly come under strong Demonic delusion. So much so that you don't even have the capacity to admit the 100% in your face proof I gave you.

You're certainly beyond help, from a human perspective, but God may yet open your eyes and quicken you to life from your sate of being "dead in sin".

Now I know I'm talking to a dead man, who can't respond because he is dead and dead men can do nothing but stink.
I don't respond to liars like yourself who make false accusations
Satan is the father of lies
 
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For if i sought to please man I would NOT be the servant of Christ .
Seeker friendly literally tanked every church it entered into my friend .
It was all a sham .
It produced a generation that can say love all day long , but knows neither GOD or His love .
It has led them into accusations against the very words of GOD and those who bring such words .
It has led them to holler judge n ot any time the v ery words of GOD are brought that expose sin .
It has led them and even leads them now
to hollering Judge not , when a man says JESUS is the Only way and to be sa ved YE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM
and that all other religoins are in d arkness .
It has led them to holler what RIGHT do ye have to say that . What right have ye to say that muslims , hindus
and etc DO not know GOD and are in danger of hell fire .
It has led them to JUDGE . and not sins , not those in e rrors that need correction
BUT THEY JUDGE GOD ALL MIGHTY . GOD and HIS CHRIST , HIS WORDS are now ON TRIAL
in many churches TO BE CONDMENED . and they think is love . and its GOD behind them . NOPE its satan .
THEY may as well be HOLLERING AT GOD and HIS CHRIST
saying WHAT RIGHT HAVE YE TO SAY YE MUST BLEIEVE , WHAT RIGHT have ye haters to say
ONE must repent of sin and BELIEVE ON JESUS .
GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS VERY WORDS are on trial IN MANY CHURCHES NOW
and they judge them as HATE SPEECH just as they judge the sheep who bring them as being haters .
HELLO CHURCHES that is what YE SEEKER FRIENDLY FOLLOW NOW .
THAT IS WHAT YOUR E CUMENICAL WHORE has led you too . JUDGING GOD .
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You're entitled to your private unbiblical opinion, but I only believe what Gods Word reveals about the matter. Your opinion here makes no sense at all, how on earth did you arrive at such a ludicrous conclusion that "God also hates many of those He loves". That has to be the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life.


Actually gave you the answer in my comment, which you then verify your ignorance, by your response.

John 3:16
God so loved the world…

Pss 11:5
God hates the wicked…

When you are ignorant of word meanings, you can continue to look foolish by deflecting to accusing, rather than becoming educated.


Everyone (except for you) knows that hate is the opposite of love and love is the opposite of hate.

No it isn’t.

…actually …
Love is A Righteous pleasing state of Affection.

Hate is a strong dislike.

Do you also struggle with knowing the difference between Love and Like?

What your suggesting here, is that God has multi personality disorder, and that's absolutely blasphemous.

No. What I am flat out saying is you are ignorant of word meanings.

God hates most people, so much that He will cast them into the lake of fire to be tormented for all eternity, and you call that love!!!! how pathetic!!!

LOL… People are Living beings!
Dead lifeless bodies and Dead lifeless souls are thrown into the LOF…

You believe, Lifeless human bodies or lifeless souls…. Can Feel, anything? LOL!

Your command of the English language is pitiful!
 

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No, I gave you to verses which destroy your foolish interpretation of the verses you abused to support your Satanic lies.
Yes, I did provide 2 verses. You don't have eyes to see.

While I won't accuse you of embracing Satan's lies, it is obvious that you are ego driven, very self-righteous - not righteous. Make a blessed day!
 

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Yes, I did provide 2 verses. You don't have eyes to see.

While I won't accuse you of embracing Satan's lies, it is obvious that you are ego driven, very self-righteous - not righteous. Make a blessed day!

^ 5

The Lord says He does Not desire men to BE Ignorant… however Some men go to ridiculous lengths to prove their Ignorance.

Scripture is akin to a Two Fold playbook…
The Creators WAY of Good.
And…
The WAY …of evil with a Capital D.

Not a mystery what CS is doing.

God bless you.
Taken
 

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I don't know. The Jews also rejected Jesus and had him put to death. So I don't really care about them more than I care about the rest of the world. Im apathetic about it

That's too bad for you.
You should know that just like the prodigal son, the Father longs for them to return to Him.

For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy - James 2:13

Genesis 12:3
I will bless those who bless you,
But I will curse those who curse you.
And through you I will bless all the nations

Numbers 24:9
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed

Romans 11:28
they are beloved for the Father's sakes

Those that are racist and hateful towards God's chosen people... are cursed.


I pray for the whole world and peace in it

Except for the Jews of course.


Israel is just as bad as the rest if not worse. Always bombing someone.

In self defense, yes.

If the moslems would simply leave them alone there would be peace.

But the moslems or satanically inspired to murder all Jews so there won't be any peace.

I applaud Israel's strength and resolve to stand for their right to exist.

Jesus Christ is personally supporting the Jews in these end times and will never allow Israel to be destroyed

Those who do not have the Spirit of the Lord abiding in them are apathetic towards Israel and towards the Lord Who sees the Jews as beloved unto Him (Romans 11:28)


Sure you can defend yourself from invasion and attack but I often see Israel doing the attacking without provocation, committing acts of terror themselves.

That's what the liberals always claim.

These are the same people that celebrate murdering innocent babies in the womb (abortion)

These people are not of God and serve the horned one and don't even know it. That's too bad for them,
 

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That's too bad for you.
You should know that just like the prodigal son, the Father longs for them to return to Him.

For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy - James 2:13

Genesis 12:3
I will bless those who bless you,
But I will curse those who curse you.
And through you I will bless all the nations

Numbers 24:9
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed

Romans 11:28
they are beloved for the Father's sakes

Those that are racist and hateful towards God's chosen people... are cursed.




Except for the Jews of course.




In self defense, yes.

If the moslems would simply leave them alone there would be peace.

But the moslems or satanically inspired to murder all Jews so there won't be any peace.

I applaud Israel's strength and resolve to stand for their right to exist.

Jesus Christ is personally supporting the Jews in these end times and will never allow Israel to be destroyed

Those who do not have the Spirit of the Lord abiding in them are apathetic towards Israel and towards the Lord Who sees the Jews as beloved unto Him (Romans 11:28)




That's what the liberals always claim.

These are the same people that celebrate murdering innocent babies in the womb (abortion)

These people are not of God and serve the horned one and don't even know it. That's too bad for them,

"Israel has always had a liberal stance on abortion, allowing women facing medical emergencies or those who are victims of rape or abuse to receive subsidies to help them terminate their pregnancies. Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason."

"Tel Aviv is widely considered the "gay capital of the Middle East" and one of the world's most LGBTQ-friendly cities, featuring a vibrant community where an estimated 25% of the population identifies as LGBTQ+. It boasts a massive, annual Pride Parade attracting hundreds of thousands, a dedicated queer beach (Hilton Beach), and a thriving, year-round nightlife scene."

 
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"Israel has always had a liberal stance on abortion, allowing women facing medical emergencies or those who are victims of rape or abuse to receive subsidies to help them terminate their pregnancies. Outside of those regulations, women can apply for abortions for reasons ranging from an emotional or mental threat caused by the pregnancy or for not being married to the baby’s father. All women who seek to end a pregnancy must appear before a three-member committee to state their case, but 98 percent of requests are approved. Women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40 were also previously eligible for subsidized abortions, regardless of the reason."

"Tel Aviv is widely considered the "gay capital of the Middle East" and one of the world's most LGBTQ-friendly cities, featuring a vibrant community where an estimated 25% of the population identifies as LGBTQ+. It boasts a massive, annual Pride Parade attracting hundreds of thousands, a dedicated queer beach (Hilton Beach), and a thriving, year-round nightlife scene."

You should know that just like the prodigal son, the Father longs for them to return to Him.

God was merciful to you as a sinner... how is it you have no mercy for the Jews? clueless.gif

You might want to be cafe with that attitude.

For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy - James 2:13
 

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You should know that just like the prodigal son, the Father longs for them to return to Him.

God was merciful to you as a sinner... how is it you have no mercy for the Jews? View attachment 81697

You might want to be cafe with that attitude.

For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy - James 2:13
"That's what the liberals always claim.

These are the same people that celebrate murdering innocent babies in the womb (abortion)

"These people are not of God and serve the horned one and don't even know it. That's too bad for them, how is it you have no mercy for the Jews? "<---- How is it you have no mercy for ALL sinners??!
 
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How is it you have no mercy for ALL sinners??!

This is the question you should be asking yourself about yourself.

The Lord is the One Who said the following so argue with Him.

Genesis 12:3
I will bless those who bless you,
But I will curse those who curse you.
And through you I will bless all the nations

Numbers 24:9
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed
 
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This is the question you should be asking yourself about yourself.

The Lord is the One Who said the following so argue with Him.

Genesis 12:3
I will bless those who bless you,
But I will curse those who curse you.
And through you I will bless all the nations

Numbers 24:9
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed
First of all, I did NOT "curse Israel", please!
Christians ARE the Israel of God, through faith in Christ...Jew and Gentile. "He who does not have the Son, does not have The Father". It is clear that the "church" is Israel. And, I'm not talking about any "replacement theology", it is continuation theology. The promise to Abraham has been extended to CHRISTIANS. We share in the same promises.

And BTW-you again totally ignore what I DID write.
 
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And BTW-you again totally ignore what I DID write.

No, I read the foolishness that you wrote


You asked me "How is it you have no mercy for ALL sinners?" after talking smack about the Jews being sinful.

Hello black, meet kettle :hmhehm