Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[Triumph1300]

but are only a Religious Cult of Dupes. who sit on their arse and do nothing, because they are good for nothing ! Who sits back and lets Government peddle and makes an idol of that is Gay ? and backs up the abortions on demand, school system exploting children to be nazi like defenders of everything that is depraved !

So, this is the kind of language you use in order to convert people to the real Gospel of Jesus Christ.!?

Well.....I say good luck with that.
You will not convert a single soul with insults.

 

[Jack]

The "Israel of God", which includes grafted-in, believing Gentiles.........all those whom God has foreknown.....this is not talking about all "Israel after the flesh".

Guess where Jesus will return.

Zechariah 14:1-4
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ...
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, ...

 

[Triumph1300]

Islam is at war with the people our salvation comes through

Islam is at war with a secular nation.
The "Country of Israel" is no difference than any other western nation.
Most are not 'Born again Believers.
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Israel is not a "Christian Country", it is totally secular with a small group of Christian.

"Israel" is "t h e C h u r c h of Jesus Christ.
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Our Salvation only comes through the Lord Jesus Christ.
NOT through a nation.
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[Triumph1300]

**Historically, the Crusades: Were they a resistance against the Islamic world or a quest for plunder?**

Correct.
One CULT against another CULT.
Murder and plunder.
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Nothing Christian about it.

 

[NayborBear]

Be prepared to receive body bags if this nonsense is allowed to proceed.

Gee?!! I am wondering how many body bags would there be if Epic Fury hadn't been, and Iran fired off several nukes?
How nonsensical is THAT?

 

[soberxp]

Another historical nihilist appeared.

What is the premise of the nuclear agreement between the United States and Iran?People from the International Atomic Energy Organization have settled in Iran's nuclear facilities.Monitor what their nuclear materials are used for,Ever since Trump broke the agreement,They lost control of these nuclear materials.This is a completely self-directed and self-acting play.comedy.

 

[Triumph1300]

Gee?!! I am wondering how many body bags would there be if Epic Fury hadn't been, and Iran fired off several nukes?
How nonsensical is THAT?

Using that kind of talk maybe Trump should go after North Korea and a few other ones.
How's THAT for some more nonsense?

 

[Aunty Jane]

Gee?!! I am wondering how many body bags would there be if Epic Fury hadn't been, and Iran fired off several nukes?
How nonsensical is THAT?

About as nonsensical as expecting God to use worldly men with weapons of mass destruction, when he has Jesus Christ and his angelic army to fight his battles (Matt 26:52-53)......where is God in your estimation of things? Is he taking a nap whilst all of this transpires and has to rely on you guys to fight his battles for him? What kind of impotent god are you worshipping?

You will soon find out how nonsensical your political position is....because God doesn’t need your military or your weapons in the war he is waging against his enemy....the one who rules this world.....nothing in which, happens without his permission. If he is allowing certain things to take place for a reason.....you can leave it in his capable hands....or can you? What was foretold for this “time of the end”?

Daniel 2:44 speaks of the last ruling world powers in this time of the end.....
“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever”.

God is going to wipe out every vestige of human rulership under the devil’s control.....even the ones you are trying to preserve.....Not a lot of faith demonstrated by you patriots....is there?

With the ‘coming’ of God’s Kingdom, His will can then “be done on earth as it is in heaven.”
Isn’t that what Jesus taught us to pray for?

 

[soberxp]

Don't be brave.Let's wait quietly for the result of the war.If God bless them, they will surely win the war.

Let's see if Allah is better or God is better(your God not my God).
Or Satan is more powerful in this world.

 

[ProDeo]

Don't be brave.Let's wait quietly for the result of the war.If God bless them, they will surely win the war.

Let's see if Allah is better or God is better.
Or Satan is more powerful in this world.

What nonsense is that ??

 

[soberxp]

What nonsense is that ??

When quoting the Bible proves nothing, Then let the result decide everything.

 

[ProDeo]

When quoting the Bible proves nothing, Then let the result decide everything.

Then what are you, a Christian or a Muslim ?

 

[soberxp]

Then what are you, a Christian or a Muslim ?

Sounds like you have no faith in God.
They say their war represents God.So you think they will lose?

 

[Lizbeth]

This is where we differ on his role. I don't believe he's a Cyrus, but a Nimrod/Apollo. He does revere and honor him in his estate.

I also disagree with many of his policies ... specifically the ways he carries his policies out that result in destruction, poverty, and death.

Cyrus was pagan. He didn't "know" the Lord (Is. 45:4).

Trump administration policies in a general way seem to be common sense and conservative, to my knowledge. But I agree with you, how some of them get carried out seems ham-fisted and pushing the envelope though, from what I can see.

Trump is more than one thing, I believe. "Good" in some ways and "bad" in others. The Lord choosing/using someone, doesn't mean it is for good, or all for good - Cyrus was God's instrument of judgment against Babylon. So he wasn't a "good" thing from Babylon's point of view, but he was "good" from Israel's point of view. Western civilization is in a mess any way you look at it...we're living through a nightmare of demise these days and circling the drain in my opinion. When it gets bad enough in western countries, I believe the Jews will leave and go to Israel, taking with them all their money and talents and businesses to Israel with them. That will also be "good" for Israel i a worldly sense, but "bad" for the west. Anyway, God is on His throne. The Lord gives and the Lord takes away, blessed be His Name.

 

[Lizbeth]

When quoting the Bible proves nothing, Then let the result decide everything.

We can't judge by outward appearance. Jesus on the cross appeared to have been defeated, but the opposite was true. And just because He may use/allow a pagan nation to judge and chastise His people/nation it wouldn't mean for one second that their pagan gods are greater than the Lord.

The bible says, though evil men may get their way in this life, we are not to fret because they will soon be cut down like the grass..........and the meek will triumph in the end and inherit the earth, not the evil. In this fallen world it is "normal" for evil to appear outwardly to have the upper hand generally. Only because God allows it, in His wisdom and for His ultimate purposes..

 

[amigo de christo]

He only told His closest disciples to buy a sword, those who were accompanying Him to Gethsemane. And I believe it was meant to only be a deterrent so they wouldn't get scooped up along with Him.....because when Peter actually used the sword, how did Jesus respond?

Clearly we are instructed in the word to be wise as serpents, but harmless as doves.

what a person loves is what they will defend and point too and do .
some talk often of and hope in politics and leaders of men .
Others , though few they be , always go about pointing to Christ , HIS gospel , His words
and remind all to hope not and trust not in men .
but then some love the earthen
and few love the heavenly . whatever kingdom one is trul y of , HIS HEART will show it .
If affections are above then it will clearly be seen .
If affections are upon the earthen then it will be clearly seen .
BUT WHAT IS CLEARLY KNOWN by the sheep , THANKS bE TO GOD of course ,
IS THAT IT CANNOT BE BOTH .
though many seem to beleive that is possible . IT IS N OT .
For where their affections are , THERE WILL THEIR HEART BE ALSO .
That is why we will watch them always making excuse for the evil actions of the one whose hope they have set thier heart upon .
Just a friendly reminder to us all . You can lead those whose hopes be in the earthen to water
But often when one of them b e led to the water , THEY DRINK NOT and say ALAS the water i already have is much clearer
and better than THAT . Many have a taste and a desire for the earthen . AND THUS MANY ARE NOT G ONNA MAKE IT
cause the earthen are always about changing the image of GOD , of CHRIST into something that serves
the EARTHERN agenda and or sins and etc . That one cannot save but will lead them to the day of their destruction .

 

[TLHKAJ]

Cyrus was pagan. He didn't "know" the Lord (Is. 45:4).

Trump administration policies in a general way seem to be common sense and conservative, to my knowledge. But I agree with you, how some of them get carried out seems ham-fisted and pushing the envelope though, from what I can see.

Trump is more than one thing, I believe. "Good" in some ways and "bad" in others. The Lord choosing/using someone, doesn't mean it is for good, or all for good - Cyrus was God's instrument of judgment against Babylon. So he wasn't a "good" thing from Babylon's point of view, but he was "good" from Israel's point of view. Western civilization is in a mess any way you look at it...we're living through a nightmare of demise these days and circling the drain in my opinion. When it gets bad enough in western countries, I believe the Jews will leave and go to Israel, taking with them all their money and talents and businesses to Israel with them. That will also be "good" for Israel i a worldly sense, but "bad" for the west. Anyway, God is on His throne. The Lord gives and the Lord takes away, blessed be His Name.

There is nothing good about Trump. He is a handler under MK, murders babies/children for satanic ritual (and eats them) ....that is, after he violates them sexually. Anything he does that appears "good" is only a front. I can't see anything he's done that is good. He's talked and talked, but then death and destruction follows. I can't call anything good coming from an entity who has been proven to be a violent sexual predator of children.

I know people hate when I say these things about Trump, especially those willfully blind people who believe everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is true. But hundreds of victims and witnesses aren't wrong.

 

[NayborBear]

Using that kind of talk maybe Trump should go after North Korea and a few other ones.
How's THAT for some more nonsense?

Given the "she-ites" track record of the past 50 years, give or take? Whose motto has been death to Israel and death to America?
AND? Who is at war with EVERYONE who is NOT a "she-ite" muslim/islam?
AND? Considering all the offensive covert/terroristic activities AGAINST Israel AND the U.S. of A. the past 50 years give or take? NOT INCLUDING these same tactics used in other countries that most of us have no clue about?
To which in my military mind as well as many others in possession of some common sense, speaks VOLUMES of Iran's PREDICTABILITY of their INTENTION/S, that unlike many other countries using their nukes as a defense? IF Iran were to procure nuclear capability?
THEY "WOULD USE IT OFFENSIVELY" TOWARDS THEIR "QUEST" IN CAUSING THE DEATH OF EVERYONE THAT IS NOT, NOR WOULD CONVERT TO "she-ite!"
So? Listen up buttercup.
YOU, and ones like you, being so many "ostriches" not believing that the "she-ite" faction of mulim/islam is not at WAR against y'all, AND the Good News OF Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

Makes it hard for this poster to believe that y'all are TRULY FOR the Good News that Jesus Christ of Nazareth brought to this 3rd rock from the sun SENT by His Father! For "whosoever will" may come!

(gives me cause to think their are those wishing an end BEFORE the Appointed time!)

To answer your question however?
I ain't sayin' Yay?
I ain't sayin' Nay!
But? Mebbe!

 

[NayborBear]

About as nonsensical as expecting God to use worldly men with weapons of mass destruction, when he has Jesus Christ and his angelic army to fight his battles (Matt 26:52-53)......where is God in your estimation of things? Is he taking a nap whilst all of this transpires and has to rely on you guys to fight his battles for him? What kind of impotent god are you worshipping?

You are so funny AJ, it's NOT funny!
Reminds me of the time a college professor, who was an atheist, stood in front of his class and exclaimed:
"I'll PROVE to y'all that God DOESN'T exist!"
"I'll stand right here for 5 minutes and WAIT for God to knock me down!"
To which a recently discharged Marine promptly got up and knocked the professor's lights out.
After the professor came back to his senses? He asked:
"Why did you do that?!"
To which the marine replied:
"God was busy, so He sent me to answer your question!"

So seeings how God is NOT a respecter of persons?
Leagalists such as yourself and others, would be, and are THOROUGHLY SHOCKED by the latitude God gives to, and for His warriors!

Know why?
I'll tell ya why!
Because God KNOWS our heart/s!

 

[ProDeo]

Sounds like you have no faith in God.
They say their war represents God.So you think they will lose?

You can't say the current war is between God and the fictitious Allah.

In the grand scheme of wars the only war what matters is when Christ returns, ends all the nonsense and says : it's enough.