Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?

[Ezra]

Are you getting paid to ask all of these questions? If you're wondering if I am getting paid to ask mines, no.

he likes to ask but seldom replies and when he does its a pick a chose or ask another question

 

[rvmb]

The church of Laodicea is the final church age before Christ comes. There is no other church after Laodicea. The church that Jesus takes home with Him is repentant Laodicea. A church that repented of her lukewarmness, received Christ, and published the final gospel (Revel.14:6-12) to a all the world. The Laodicea church's issues that Jesus was pointing out to them was that they were content on being miserable, wretched, poor, blind, and naked. Nothing in there about not having doctrinal unity. In other words, they knew the truth, they had the correct teachings, but we're apathetic and lazy and made Jesus sick.
So what is the lesson here? We need to receive Christ. We need to be filled with the Holy Spirit. We need to be forming characters and living lives that God can approve of. We need to be filled with compassion and love for the lost. We need to be preaching the gospel and warning people everywhere of the imminent coming of Christ so that they can be prepared and repent of their lukewarm apathetic self contented attitudes.
Unity in belief, especially if we have come to that unity by compromising truth, will just further blind us to the reality of our wretched condition and make us more complacent than ever.

>>>>>>>""The church of Laodicea is the final church age before Christ comes.
The Book of Revelation is very confusing to a lot of people.
Hopefully the following helps

Understanding the Book of Revelation - doctrine.org

Introduction Revelation is a confusing book to most people despite the many commentaries written. The reason most commentaries fail to enlighten the book’s contents is because they violate one or more of the three basic principles of sound biblical interpretation.…

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[Dan Clarkston]

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal unity?

No, since God's Word teaches that there is mass deception in the end times.

I'm not going to allow any church or preacher dictate to me what I am to believe as that's how people get deceived.

Jesus sent THE Teacher (Holy Spirit) to lead us in to all Truth and God's Word is Truth

What churches and preachers claim is truth is not Truth.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I have been a Roman Catholic in the past, and they worship the same Godhead.

Actually they worship mary and think you have to go through dead people in order to get to God.

Of course catholics claim this is not true and then there are many former catholics that claim it is actually true and it's why they quit being catholic because they got tired of living in the sin of idolatry

 

[rvmb]

No, since God's Word teaches that there is mass deception in the end times.

I'm not going to allow any church or preacher dictate to me what I am to believe as that's how people get deceived.

Jesus sent THE Teacher (Holy Spirit) to lead us in to all Truth and God's Word is Truth

What churches and preachers claim is truth is not Truth.

>>> What churches and preachers claim is truth is >>>>SOMETIMES<<<<< not Truth.
Ps, I'm UNdenominational

 

[Dan Clarkston]

>>> What churches and preachers claim is truth is >>>>SOMETIMES<<<<< not Truth.

Yeah like 0000000000000000.1 churches teach truth

 

[rvmb]

Yeah like 0000000000000000.1 churches teach truth

Been there, done that, see that

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I think it is only on the Day of Judgment that humanity can unify its thoughts.

You are a day late and a dolla short.

The Gospel is about turning away from "humanity" and it's darkened wisdom and instead being born again and translated in to the Kingdom of God's Dear Son and living in agreement with Him

The so called "brotherhood of man" is demonic as it is not the Body of Christ and does not abide IN Christ.

 

[soberxp]

You are a day late and a dolla short.

The Gospel is about turning away from "humanity" and it's darkened wisdom and instead being born again and translated in to the Kingdom of God's Dear Son and living in agreement with Him

The so called "brotherhood of man" is demonic as it is not the Body of Christ and does not abide IN Christ.

I don't care about you, cuz any of you for me meaning nothing.

I only care about myself and will of God.

 

[soberxp]

I think it is only on the Day of Judgment that humanity can unify its thoughts.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I don't care about you, cuz any of you for me meaning nothing.

I only care about myself and will of God.

Those caring about the will of the Lord aren't following humanity

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I think it is only on the Day of Judgment that humanity can unify its thoughts.

The Gospel is about turning away from "humanity" and it's darkened wisdom and instead being born again and translated in to the Kingdom of God's Dear Son and living in agreement with Him

 

[soberxp]

The Gospel is about turning away from "humanity" and it's darkened wisdom and instead being born again and translated in to the Kingdom of God's Dear Son and living in agreement with Him

Adam living on the earth 900years
Jesus Christ living on the earth 30years
So where is the 70years?

 

[PS95]

This is a follow-up to the previous topic: Unity of the faith - at what cost? Link below.

Probably the biggest roadblock to Christian doctrinal unity is holding on to the freedom we have to determine our own beliefs.
Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal unity?

Unity of the faith - at what cost?

Just to be clear, I do not seek Christian doctrinal unity. Defined as EVERYONE surrendering to a predetermined set of beliefs.
I believe that unity comes when we accept each other no matter our differences.
That we seek to understand each other instead of rejecting those whose Christian doctrine may differ.
Which presents its own set of challenges, of course. But that's another topic. (I hope) - LOL

Only some off them. The Essentials vs liberty.

 

[soberxp]

Psalm 90:10
The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

 

[St. SteVen]

Adam living on the earth 900years
Jesus Christ living on the earth 30years
So where is the 70years?

Is that the new math for the the new Adam? - LOL

What is the 100 years you are pointing to?

 

[St. SteVen]

Only some off them. The Essentials vs liberty.

But who decides what you will believe?

Christian doctrinal unity requires EVERYONE surrendering to a predetermined set of beliefs.

Who decides?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Adam living on the earth 900years
Jesus Christ living on the earth 30years
So where is the 70years?

It's certainly not about living to please men and following the wisdom of man.

Is that the new math for the the new Adam? - LOL

What is the 100 years you are pointing to?

It's fuZZy math man

 

[PS95]

But who decides what you will believe?

Christian doctrinal unity requires EVERYONE surrendering to a predetermined set of beliefs.

Who decides?

I think that the very basics are clear enough. Most do agree on those. Those who don't are being divisive. This board is full of divisive people but I think the ones who grasp the basics of the ONE gospel delivered agree on much.
Who decides? The gospel is not up for grabs. It says what it says in it's entirety. It's not that hard to understand. A child can accept it.
People make it hard! Those with man's doctrines + gospel generally are cherry picking verses which leads to all sorts of heresy.

 

[St. SteVen]

I think that the very basics are clear enough. Most do agree on those. Those who don't are being divisive. This board is full of divisive people but I think the ones who grasp the basics of the ONE gospel delivered agree on much.
Who decides? The gospel is not up for grabs. It says what it says in it's entirety. It's not that hard to understand. A child can accept it.
People make it hard! Those with man's doctrines + gospel generally are cherry picking verses which leads to all sorts of heresy.

We already have creeds. And if one agrees with that, it's not much of an issue.
But those in control might want to push it further.