When Might Satan With His Angels Come to This Earth For the Tribulation?
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The temple must first be rebuilt, before the return of Jesus:
"The Lord will come suddenly to his temple" (Malachi 3:1).
"The Lord will come suddenly to his temple" (Malachi 3:1).
IMO:
Satan and his angels were thrown down from heaven to earth at the very beginning (Isaiah 14:12):
o The serpent (i.e. Satan talking through the serpent) said to the woman (Eve), "Did God actually say..." (Genesis 3:1)
o "He seized the dragon (Satan), that ancient *serpent*..." (Revelation 20:2)
Believers have guardian angels to protect them (Matthew 18:10).
BTW "angel" has the etymology "messenger." They are God's messengers, and they are incredibly powerful. For example see 2Kings 19:35, where one angel killed 185,000 evil warriors in one night. So I suppose our "guardian angels" can protect us from fallen angels (a.k.a. "demons").
Satan and his angels were thrown down from heaven to earth at the very beginning (Isaiah 14:12):
o The serpent (i.e. Satan talking through the serpent) said to the woman (Eve), "Did God actually say..." (Genesis 3:1)
o "He seized the dragon (Satan), that ancient *serpent*..." (Revelation 20:2)
Believers have guardian angels to protect them (Matthew 18:10).
BTW "angel" has the etymology "messenger." They are God's messengers, and they are incredibly powerful. For example see 2Kings 19:35, where one angel killed 185,000 evil warriors in one night. So I suppose our "guardian angels" can protect us from fallen angels (a.k.a. "demons").
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When might Satan with his angels come to this earth for the tribulation? ^^^^^
The answer is after Satan, the two beasts and the Kings of the earth are released from the Bottomless pit after 1,000 years of imprisonment. We should remember that the Bottomless pit is within the earth itself.
Satan abides in hell 1000 years, during the millennial reign of Jesus. He is then released a short while, he leads an attack on Jerusalem, and he is thrown into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:1-10).
Currently Satan roams the earth:
o "I threw you to the earth" (Ezekiel 28:16)
o "the devil prowls around like a roaring lion" (1Peter 5:8).
Jesus will come with his mighty angels, at God's appointed time, after the Jewish temple is rebuilt (Malachi 3:1), and assign Satan to hell (Revelation 19:11-21).
After the millennial reign of Jesus, Satan and his angels will be released. They will surround Jerusalem, intending to attack it, whereupon they will all be thrown back into hell (Revelation 20:7-10). Stubborn, aren't they.
Then come new heavens and new earth (Revelation chapters 21, 22), a do-over of Genesis 1:1.
Isaiah 14:12-22 comments on the insane pride of Satan (a.k.a. "Lucifer"= "Light-Bearer").
Currently Satan roams the earth:
o "I threw you to the earth" (Ezekiel 28:16)
o "the devil prowls around like a roaring lion" (1Peter 5:8).
Jesus will come with his mighty angels, at God's appointed time, after the Jewish temple is rebuilt (Malachi 3:1), and assign Satan to hell (Revelation 19:11-21).
After the millennial reign of Jesus, Satan and his angels will be released. They will surround Jerusalem, intending to attack it, whereupon they will all be thrown back into hell (Revelation 20:7-10). Stubborn, aren't they.
Then come new heavens and new earth (Revelation chapters 21, 22), a do-over of Genesis 1:1.
Isaiah 14:12-22 comments on the insane pride of Satan (a.k.a. "Lucifer"= "Light-Bearer").
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Satan and one third of the entire angelic population still roaming to and fro before the Creator of the universe Whom they incited Israel to murder, as well as the loyal angels remaining, unmolested and left to their own devices to continue to abuse, accuse, insult, abuse and wage relentless war and vindictive hatred against all in heaven. Yeah right. You have no idea what you are talking about. You have even less idea concerning the character and purposes of God. What's more, you stubbornly refuse to listen to those who do.
The God of the Israelite world was not Satan in its last day. It was the same one who lead Moses.
Ezekiel 28 is a lament about the king of Tyre, and also about the cherub Satan, along with the angels that follow Satan. It says Satan had inhabited the mountain of God (presumably in heaven), but was eventually thrown to earth.
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I did read what you said, and you deny God giving His servants visions today no longer happens. You are WRONG.
Acts 2:14-21
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, "Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on My servants and on My handmaidens I will pour out in those days of My Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
KJV
So instead of trying to give all sorts of Churchianity sayings and slogans, how about just sticking to what God's written Word says.
He has never been bound yet, not even at the cross, and many misinterpret the timing of the John 12:31 verse. This world has been 'spiritually' judged, but not physically just yet. It will be physically judged at Christ's future return. Likewise, when Jesus returns is also when Satan will be bound for a "thousand years". That time is not here yet.
Yes, as also per Zechariah 6:12 is also familiar to the orthodox Jews with their still waiting for Messiah to come.
Zech 6:12
12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
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Nope, not in the sense of Revelation 12:7-8 which is meant LITERALLY.
Satan and his angels are still in the Heavenly dimension to this day.
The casting out of Revelation 12:7-8 Scripture is about a CHANGE of dimensions.
Since this earthly dimension is the ONLY OTHER dimension of existence written of in all of God's Word, that means once Satan is cast out of the Heavenly dimension, he MUST APPEAR HERE ON EARTH, IN PERSON.
So those who believe Satan is already cast down to this earth, HAVE YOU SEEN HIM LATELY? What's he look like? Does he really go around wearing... red flannel underwear, a pitch fork, and a goatee?
Obviously, many brethren do not have a clue about the two dimensions of existence written of in God's Word. To be cast out of the Heavenly dimension means being bound to this earthly dimension, and that means being SEEN by flesh-born people. As long as one is behind the invisible 'veil' of the Heavenly dimension, they are not seen by human flesh people (unless God allows it). The Revelation 12:7 forward verses though are about Satan and his angels being literally cast out of the Heavenly dimension, and not allowed to return. That means they must manifest here in our earthly dimension, in plain sight.
Satan (a cherub) and his angels were thrown down to earth many years ago:
"You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you." (Ezekiel 28:14)
"How you have fallen from heaven, O day star, son of the dawn." (Isaiah 14:12-15)
"And the great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the receiver of the whole world. He was hurled to earth, and his angels with him." (Revelation 12:9).
Cherub is the highest level of created being that I know of.
"You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you." (Ezekiel 28:14)
"How you have fallen from heaven, O day star, son of the dawn." (Isaiah 14:12-15)
"And the great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the receiver of the whole world. He was hurled to earth, and his angels with him." (Revelation 12:9).
Cherub is the highest level of created being that I know of.
Monobiblical noted: "He (Satan) has already been released."
IMO the Bible indicates that Satan was cast down from heaven to earth long ago (Isaiah 14:12).
You are still not understanding the difference with the last phrase of the Revelation 12:8 verse... when the war in Heaven happens sometime in our near future...
Rev 12:7-10
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
That did NOT happen at Lucifer's original fall. He still right now, is in Heaven, because that is where haides, the abode of the wicked that he is over as king, is located. It is about the Heavenly dimension, NOT our earthly dimension.
It would appear you do not yet understand the difference between the Heavenly dimension where God and the angels live, and the earthly dimension that we live in.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
KJV
After Lucifer's original rebellion and fall, he appears (as Satan) before God's Throne in HEAVEN to accuse Job. That means he is still... allowed in Heaven today. But when that war between him and Archangel Michael happens, then he will no longer be allowed in Heaven, nor before God's Throne to accuse us.
The Bible says:
"How you are fallen from heaven , O Day Star, son of the Dawn." (Isaiah 14:12).
If he is not in heaven, then earth is the only other place I know of that he could be. In fact, the Bible verifies this:
o "Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion *walks about* seeking whom he may devour." (1Peter 5:8)
o "And the great Dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the receiver of the whole world --he was *thrown down to the earth,* and his angels were thrown down with him." (Revelation 12:9).
o "...Your adversary the devil *prowls around* like a roaring lion, seeking something to devour." (1Peter 5:8)
"How you are fallen from heaven , O Day Star, son of the Dawn." (Isaiah 14:12).
If he is not in heaven, then earth is the only other place I know of that he could be. In fact, the Bible verifies this:
o "Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion *walks about* seeking whom he may devour." (1Peter 5:8)
o "And the great Dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the receiver of the whole world --he was *thrown down to the earth,* and his angels were thrown down with him." (Revelation 12:9).
o "...Your adversary the devil *prowls around* like a roaring lion, seeking something to devour." (1Peter 5:8)
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Good point, "He shall build the temple of the Lord" (Zechariah 6:13).
The Anti-Christ apparently builds some of it, but the temple area was a large complex with buildings and features other than the temple (Naos) itself.
We shall see. I don't know if I'll be here for that, I'm pretty old. But if The LORD wants me to be here through that, it will be so.
Brakelite noted:
>Satan and one third of all the angels>
See Revelation 12:4.
>continue to abuse>
We have guardian angels to prevent that. See Matthew 18:10.
>Satan and one third of all the angels>
See Revelation 12:4.
>continue to abuse>
We have guardian angels to prevent that. See Matthew 18:10.
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